550cc injectors on EMB?

George611

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Cant remember where i saw it but im sure i read that it isnt posible to run 550cc injectors on an emanage blue? is this right? jus wanna double check because ive got a set of 550cc injectors sitting here and been given an emanage blue so if i can run em happy days if not il put em up for sale n get 440cc or something.

cheers guys.
 

Texx

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From what I understand, the EMB has a injector change correction factor that will update the whole fuel map, however this sub system is limited to injectors that do not flow any more than 150% of the stock injectors. So the maximum size injector you'd be looking at using with an EMB would be around 440-460cc.

The biggest drawback with the EMB is that it can only really be used for adding fuel, to trim fuel you have to start trimming the airflow or MAP signal which in turn messes with the ignition timing. All in all the EMB isn't a very good system for use in a highly modified setup or with a much larger than stock turbo. If your looking to learn to tune an ECU yourself, then either start with an EMU (personally though I wouldn't bother as I'm not a fan of piggyback ECU's) or look at the budget end of standalone systems.
 

George611

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Ahhh right that makes perfect sense in this case it probably would best to go for an ultimate then i do wanna have a go at tuning it myself gonna have a tad of tuition off some people local to me to grasp whats what when mapping. ive looked at the software before quite familiar with the screens n that...id love to go standalone but really cba to fork out shed loads of money on it ultimate seems to be tried n tested for quite a while so be the best route for me.
 

Texx

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Again I would urge you to look at the standalone options, using a piggyback with ,more specifically, a Toyota ECU will leave you somewhat blind as to what is really going on. You'll end up just making almost random adjustments to get the desired results, where as with a standalone ECU you'll know the exact spark advance angle your setting and be able to calculate almost exactly how much fuel is being injected, in addition you'll be forced to learn how to tune the parts of the map such as cold start etc... that would otherwise be preprogrammed into the stock ECU.

Don't forget, if you buy a standalone ECU you can transfer it over to pretty much any engine you want to have a go at tuning. With a piggyback ECU you'll need to learn the characteristics of the OEM ECU your attempting to control, in some cases this can be very frustrating, time consuming and also get in the way of what your trying to learn. Think of a standalone ECU as an investment in your experience and education, not just an expensive part that your plugging into an old car.

There are several standalone ECU's on the market that are, price wise, very competitive with the EMU.
 

Rob H

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I tried running 550cc injectors on the emb and it just dumped loads of fuel in and would not start but the lad I got the injectors off was running them on a emb but was having over fueling problems. As Texx said they can only do 150% bigger than stock.
 
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