Gear Ratio Comparison List

Discussion in 'DRIVETRAIN' started by Jay, Oct 6, 2008.

  1. Jay

    Jay Admin

    Introduction

    Right, I'm not going to pretend to be a mathmatical genius or understand how all these little figures do what they do but I thought it was time to list them in the one place.

    You can thank Starletto Joz for making me look into this aspect of the running gear - guess I sorta thought I had better give better reasons for hating the non-turbo gearbox than 'I've killed too many'!

    Please offer any advice, provide further ratios and correct any mistakes that I have made.


    Gear ratio data
    All figures are taken from official Toyota source material that is sitting on the desk beside me here. I apologise in advance if I have made any errors.


    1996 UKDM 4EFE (C154?)

    1st : 3.545
    2nd : 1.904
    3rd : 1.310
    4th : 1.031
    5th : 0.864
    Reverse : 3.250
    Differential ratio : 3.722

    Oil capacity : 1.9 litres
    Oil viscosity : SAE 75W-90
    Oil Grade : GL-4 or 5


    1996 JDM 4EFE Glanza S

    1st : 3.545
    2nd : 1.904
    3rd : 1.310
    4th : 0.969
    5th : 0.815
    Reverse : 3.250
    Differential gear ratio : 3.722
    Oil Capacity : unconfirmed
    Oil viscosity : unconfirmed
    Oil Grade : unconfirmed


    1996 JDM 4EFTE Glanza V

    1st : 3.166
    2nd : 1.904
    3rd : 1.392
    4th : 1.031
    5th : 0.815
    Reverse : 3.250
    Differential gear ratio : 3.722
    Oil Capacity : unconfirmed
    Oil viscosity : unconfirmed
    Oil Grade : unconfirmed


    1992-1995 4EFTE GT

    1st : 3.166
    2nd : 1.904
    3rd : 1.310
    4th : 0.969
    5th : 0.815
    Reverse : 3.250
    Differential gear ratio : 3.722
    Oil Capacity : unconfirmed
    Oil viscosity : unconfirmed
    Oil Grade : unconfirmed


    1989-1991 4EFTE GT

    1st : 3.166
    2nd : 1.904
    3rd : 1.310
    4th : 0.969
    5th : 0.815
    Reverse : 3.250
    Differential gear ratio : 3.722
    Oil Capacity : unconfirmed
    Oil viscosity : unconfirmed
    Oil Grade : unconfirmed


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    And of course it wouldn't be complete without the automatic figures would it?


    1996 UKDM 4EFE Automatic (A132L)

    1st : 2.810
    2nd : 1.549
    3rd : 1.000
    4th : -
    5th : -
    Reverse : 2.296
    Counter gear ratio : 0.945
    Differential gear ratio : 3.526
    Fluid Capacity (transmission) : 5.5 litres
    Fluid Capacity (Differential) : 1.4 litres
    Fluid Type : ATF Type DII or Dexron II or Dexron III


    1996 JDM Glanza V Automatic

    1st : 3.643
    2nd : 2.008
    3rd : 1.296
    4th : 0.892
    5th : -
    Reverse : 2.977
    Counter gear ratio : unconfirmed
    Differential gear ratio : 2.821
    Fluid Capacity : unconfirmed
    Fluid Type : ATF Type DII or Dexron II or Dexron III


    1992-1995 JDM GT Automatic

    1st : 3.643
    2nd : 2.008
    3rd : 1.296
    4th : 0.892
    5th : -
    Reverse : 2.977
    Counter gear ratio : unconfirmed
    Differential gear ratio : 2.821
    Fluid Capacity : unconfirmed
    Fluid Type : ATF Type DII or Dexron II or Dexron III


    1989-1991 JDM GT Automatic

    1st : 3.643
    2nd : 2.008
    3rd : 1.296
    4th : 0.892
    5th : -
    Reverse : 2.977
    Counter gear ratio : unconfirmed
    Differential gear ratio : 2.962
    Fluid Capacity : unconfirmed
    Fluid Type : ATF Type DII or Dexron II or Dexron III


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    There's a blank template for anyone wishing to add more:

    1st :
    2nd :
    3rd :
    4th :
    5th :
    Reverse :
    Differential gear ratio :
    Oil Capacity :
    Oil viscosity :
    Oil Grade :

    Hope that's of some use to somebody somewhere.

    Jay
     
  2. Jay

    Jay Admin

    TRD Gearsets

    Thanks to the TRD All Parts Catalog (their spelling not mine) I have the gear ratios offered in the 1996 range. This was just as the Glanza V appeared so they may have revised these ratios in line with it's fat ass..

    There appears to be three kits available:

    33030-AE001

    1st : 2.929
    2nd : 2.176
    3rd : 1.700
    4th : 1.364
    5th : 1.167

    33030-AE011

    1st : 2.438
    2nd : 1.944
    3rd : 1.600
    4th : 1.364
    5th : 1.167

    33030-AE021

    1st : 2.222
    2nd : 1.850
    3rd : 1.600
    4th : 1.4.35
    5th : 1.292

    All three kits were listed at 250,000yen which today is around the £1400 mark going on today's rates.

    Might interest some of our more esteemed members. ;)
     
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  3. PSI JOE

    PSI JOE Registered User +

    hmmmm I always though these were the specs for the ratios.


    Gear ratios for the C160:
    1st 3.166
    2nd 2.050
    3rd 1.481
    4rd 1.166
    5th 0.916
    6th 0.725
    Final drive 4.529

    Gear ratios for the C52:
    1st 3.166
    2nd 1.904
    3rd 1.310
    4th 0.969
    5th 0.815

    Final drive 4.312

    Gear ratios for the C56:
    1st 3.166
    2nd 1.904
    3rd 1.392
    4th 1.031
    5th 0.815

    Final drive 4.312
     
  4. Jay

    Jay Admin


    Where did you get them Joe? I copied mine from the showroom brochures.
     
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  5. tersplat

    tersplat Registered User +

    anyone done the 6 speed swap into a starlet or any other E-series motor-equipped car? i'd like to know if indeed ALL the C-series trannies can bolt up and be used with the E series bell housing.
     
  6. dave-gtturbo

    dave-gtturbo Paid Member

    There are a few on here with the 6 speed gearbox on their starlets :)

    the Corolla G6 gearbox seems to be the most common one to swap.

    Dave
     
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  7. Toby@ToyTuning.com

    Toby@ToyTuning.com Banned - DO NOT BUY FROM TOYTUNING

    Yeah you need the G6R box the G6 box is a little weaker. For reference TRD have dis-continued all gear ratio sets apart from the shortest ratio one, there is only a few of these left in the world but they are suited to low power sprint Starlets. (like hill climbing).

    TRD are also discontinuing there bush sets which is why we are frantically trying to get our own poly versions out. They have also discontinued there front anti roll bars. In around a year there won't be much left :(

    Good info Jay rep added.

    T
     
  8. dave-gtturbo

    dave-gtturbo Paid Member

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  9. Jay

    Jay Admin

    Great input for this thread lads, nice link Dave! :)
     
  10. tersplat

    tersplat Registered User +

    which tranny is this? the C64? its in the exige S so im assuming thats the one you are speaking of.
     
  11. RGM1800

    RGM1800 Registered User +

    nice write up jay. blactop tranny has more potential than 4e tranny with these ratios

    Gear ratios for the C56:
    1st 3.166
    2nd 1.904
    3rd 1.392
    4th 1.031
    5th 0.815

    Final drive 4.312
     
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  12. NosydneW

    NosydneW Paid Member

    And lets not forget the gear ratios for the C50F
    the starlet 4wd gearbox

    C50F (4wd box)

    1st 3.545
    2nd 1.904
    3rd 1.310
    4th 0.969
    5th 0.815

    3.250 reverse gear ratio

    oil visc: 75W90 GL-5

    Final drive:3.722

    :rockon:
     
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  13. Sagittarius

    Sagittarius Registered User +

    Corolla EE111 EU spec C161
    1st : 3,166
    2nd :1,904
    3rd : 1,233
    4th : 0,969
    5th : 0,815
    6th : 0,628
    Reverse : 3,250
    Differential gear ratio : 4,529
    Oil Capacity : 2,0
    Oil viscosity : SAE 75W90
    Oil Grade : API GL4 or GL5


    EP81/Corolla EE101 EU model (C150)
    1st : 3,545
    2nd :1,904
    3rd : 1,310
    4th : 0,969
    5th : 0,815
    Reverse : 3,250
    Differential gear ratio : 4,058
    Oil Capacity : 1,9
    Oil viscosity : SAE 75W90
    Oil Grade : API GL4 or GL5
     
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  14. Sagittarius

    Sagittarius Registered User +

    hey jay, this was posted by riko666 once:
    sorry for not sorting it to your template lol.

    Here are ratios for various C gearboxes:

    All C-series transmissions have a 3.250 reverse gear ratio, new generation C55# notwithstanding; they use a 3.214 reverse and 3.944 axle ratio exclusively.

    C40/C140
    3.545 1.904 1.310 0.969

    C50/C150/C50F
    3.545 1.904 1.310 0.969 0.815

    C51/C151
    3.545 1.904 1.233 0.885 0.725

    C52
    3.166 1.904 1.310 0.969 0.815

    C53/C153/C53A
    3.545 1.904 1.310 0.969 0.725

    C54/C154
    3.545 1.904 1.392 1.031 0.864

    C155
    3.166 1.904 1.310 0.969 0.725

    C56/C56M
    3.166 1.904 1.392 1.031 0.815

    C57
    3.166 1.904 1.233 0.969 0.725

    C58
    3.545 1.904 1.233 0.969 0.725

    C59
    3.166 1.904 1.310 0.885 0.725

    C60/C160
    3.166 2.050 1.481 1.166 0.916 0.725

    C63
    3.166 1.904 1.310 1.031 0.864 0.725

    C64
    3.166 2.050 1.481 1.166 0.916 0.815

    C65/C65M
    3.166 1.904 1.392 1.031 0.815 0.725

    C66/C66M
    3.166 1.904 1.310 0.969 0.815 0.725

    C250
    3.545 1.904 1.310 1.031 0.815

    C251
    3.545 1.904 1.392 1.031 0.815

    C550/C550A/C550K
    3.545 1.913 1.310 0.973 0.804

    C551/C551A/C551K
    3.545 1.913 1.310 1.027 0.850

    Among the available axle ratios of the C-series:
    3.526 3.722 3.941 4.058 4.312 4.529
     
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  15. Jay

    Jay Admin

    More info!

    Brilliant! :cool:
     
  16. GTwayne

    GTwayne Paid Member

    Sort of on subject, but anyone know how to work out what speed certain ratio's will give you?
     
  17. dave-gtturbo

    dave-gtturbo Paid Member

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  18. GTwayne

    GTwayne Paid Member

  19. Suspected_Psycho

    Suspected_Psycho Paid Member

    I see the EP82 has a better 4th gear than the Glanza V :D... Sweet!

    Whats the G6R Ratios and final drive? Anyone know?
     
  20. Aga

    Aga Paid Member

    the G6 gearbox is the same as the levin 6 gear , and they both crumble like cookies vs. the cookie monster , in a 200+ hp starlet.

    glanzas have a shorter 3rd and 4th gear, which is a blessing cause thats where the cars really bog down, but still it's not enough.

    the 5speed levin and trueno, silvertop and blacktop, have GT and Glanza gear sets accordingly, and one comes with a 4:1 final gear and the other 4.3:1 .

    i have c56 (glanza) gearing, combined with the 4.3 final gear, and the car is perfect for racing use, and in-city driving. on the highway it's a bit of a bitch, but i've gotten used to it.

    these are some real numbers from my car, with a rev limit of 8.000 and 195/50/15 tires

    1st 55kmh, 2nd 100, 3rd 135, 4th 180, 5th around 210-220.
     

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