Is it possible to fix my TMI as a FMI?
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59bhp
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theoretically yes but in reality (in most cases) it makes little difference
djurny
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this works! i have it on my ep80.. you need (to do/buy) the following:
- reducing elbow 38mm -> 51mm (ebay: zena racing)
- elbow 51mm (have to check this one, maybe i used the stock bend from compressor outlet to tmic) (any silicone mfr)
- straight coupler 51mm (any silicone mfr)
- another straight coupler 51mm (any silicone mfr)
- straight coupler 60mm (any silicone mfr)
- some piping 51mm outer diameter (ebay)
- some piping 60mm outer diameter (ebay)
- some clamps
- cut the compressor outlet just after the 38mm -> 51mm elbow, keep the bulge to have some more grip for the 38mm -> 51mm reducing elbow!
when having all of these components lying in front of you, its pretty straightforward.. i will check if i can make some pics of my setup
having no bonnet vent, this setup almost completely removed the tmic heatsoak the engine experienced..
it does not look pretty, but it does the job also, i don't have enough space for a decent aftermarket fmic behind my stock front bumper..
- reducing elbow 38mm -> 51mm (ebay: zena racing)
- elbow 51mm (have to check this one, maybe i used the stock bend from compressor outlet to tmic) (any silicone mfr)
- straight coupler 51mm (any silicone mfr)
- another straight coupler 51mm (any silicone mfr)
- straight coupler 60mm (any silicone mfr)
- some piping 51mm outer diameter (ebay)
- some piping 60mm outer diameter (ebay)
- some clamps
- cut the compressor outlet just after the 38mm -> 51mm elbow, keep the bulge to have some more grip for the 38mm -> 51mm reducing elbow!
when having all of these components lying in front of you, its pretty straightforward.. i will check if i can make some pics of my setup
having no bonnet vent, this setup almost completely removed the tmic heatsoak the engine experienced..
it does not look pretty, but it does the job
also, i don't have enough space for a decent aftermarket fmic behind my stock front bumper..
supernova
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Yes it has been done before, I remember that glanza with the mad 206 bodykit had the stock cooler moved to the front. But if your gonna fabricate your own pipes, might as well do it for a cheap universal cooler or one off another car. They can be very cheap on ebay! The stock cooler is rather small!
GTti
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Use a resonable size, I think something like the Autofixed Intercooler would be perfect. You won't have to brew a cup of tea whilst waiting for the thing to fill with air
You can search on this forum for one or someone can post a picture or dimensions up.
Found a picture... (Courtesy of Gee)
You can search on this forum for one or someone can post a picture or dimensions up.
Found a picture... (Courtesy of Gee)
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Toby@ToyTuning.com
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I personally wouldn't bother, either get a good TMIC or a cheap FMIC kit like the AB88, a lot less messing around. The stock top mount is a glorified oil cooler and is still fine for those running on the CT9 rest assured, their are a lot of myths surrounding them.
Relocating the stocker will give little or no benfit, what you gain in temperature reduction you will loose in turbo response due to the extra length of hoses needed. Just my opinion but I think your wasting time in the nicest way possible just leave it where it is!
T
Relocating the stocker will give little or no benfit, what you gain in temperature reduction you will loose in turbo response due to the extra length of hoses needed. Just my opinion but I think your wasting time in the nicest way possible just leave it where it is!
T
MikeGlanzaV
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I personally wouldn't bother, either get a good TMIC or a cheap FMIC kit like the AB88, a lot less messing around. The stock top mount is a glorified oil cooler and is still fine for those running on the CT9 rest assured, their are a lot of myths surrounding them.
Relocating the stocker will give little or no benfit, what you gain in temperature reduction you will loose in turbo response due to the extra length of hoses needed. Just my opinion but I think your wasting time in the nicest way possible just leave it where it is!
T
Toby - In your opinion if you are still runing a normal CT9 like myself albeit with full decat, exhaust, filter, iridiums, RRFPR, Walbro etc would you say the advantages of a FMIC are not enough to justify the cost? Even the £300ish required for an AB88 'cooler is beyond me at the moment but it was on my wish list! Currently I don't intend to change/hybridise the turbo but as Im running 0.9bar was wondering whether the extra heat being generated was meaning I was doing damage by no running a FMIC or better mani?
Mike,just like u've mentioned above regarding ur car, am still running on a normal ct9 but wiz an uprated hks actuator,hks fcd,apexi air filter,ngk iridiums,fuel pressure regulator,new mani,exhaust,etc n vry soon apexi avcr electronic boost controller from Toby
Am wondering whether to get a FMI or keep my TMI
GTti
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Better cooling will help with temperatures when running a CT9 @ 1bar or there abouts. At higher pressures it is known that this isn't a very efficient turbo and will start generating a little heat, so every little will help. My custom FMIC setup cost around £250, so if you have the time and want to make the effort then design and fit one yourself.