Vitara piston on 4e block?

Discussion in 'ENGINE' started by gra893, Jan 17, 2011.

  1. gra893

    gra893 Fresh Recruit

    Has anyone tried to fit a vitara pistons on our 4efte block? What are the pros and cons of this? tnx
     
  2. churcherj

    churcherj Paid Member

    what size/compression are they?
     
  3. gra893

    gra893 Fresh Recruit

    Not sure but all i know is it's bore size would be 75mm.. usuaaly this is the choice of some honda d-series engine for boosting and also low cost..
     
  4. HYBRID

    HYBRID Super Moderator <a href="http://www.toyotagtturbo.

    apart from the pison width we also need to know the piston height, and final deck hieght.. just because
    it may be good on some honda's doesnt mean it will work well on the 4e..

    kon
     
  5. gra893

    gra893 Fresh Recruit

    ill try to search for the specs.. but a friend of mine selling me his 4e block with vitara piston on it.. the reason why his selling it to me upgrade to 5e block.. tnx
    just curious about his setup and how he made it fit... :)
     
  6. chinesemafia

    chinesemafia Registered User +

    Some general information

    1. Code of piston/engine is G16b..Found in the Suzuki Vitara SOHC model and also the Suzuki Esteem(96-00)

    2. They are 75mm(standard) and you use Civic rings for 75 mm pistons

    3. They mate w/o any machining to any D series Rod or any D series aftermarket rods(Eagle,Crower etc..)

    4. They have a Floating pin design VS. the press fit pin style of OEM pistons
     
  7. gra893

    gra893 Fresh Recruit

    Thanks chinesemafia...
     
  8. MDCat

    MDCat Member

    Hello. Apologies for the lifting of the old topic) I am from Russia. We use pistons G16A. It is a good alternative to forged. 5e + GTX3076 travels 402 meters at 11.8 on these pistons. 4e + HKS2510 12.0. Still sometimes we use pistons of engines 1 and 2. This is when we want to save money yet)) We could go faster, but we do not have any professional drag strip) Apologies for Google translator)))
     
  9. 5e colin

    5e colin Registered User +

    welcome to tgtt mate feel free to inform us more on the piston install what modifications are needed to the conrod ???
     
  10. MDCat

    MDCat Member

    For Vitara \ Swift pistons only need to bore a hole rod finger on 19mm. 1NZ pistons easier - need only be treated under the head piston rod. I did this by using the rasp)) Stosk rods I have worked on 1.8 bar with 1NZ piston, until I installed the firing angle of 30 degrees))) I have four-wheel drive, transmission from Toyota Carib, car Starlet ep85. Turbo - china gt2860. Best time 12.5 sec. Turbo it small...
     
  11. Skalabala

    Skalabala Registered User +

    The pistons to be used are 2NZ-FE :)
    The vitara pistons gives a CR of 6.4:1
     
  12. Phil

    Phil Super Moderator

    Tell us more

    Phil
     
  13. MDCat

    MDCat Member

    I use a steel gasket from 5efe. How much CR will be 2NZ pistons?

    We do not have E85 (We use the gasoline from the gas station) High CR - strong knock at high boost.
     
  14. Skalabala

    Skalabala Registered User +

    2NZ-FE needs a skimm on the crown.
    Both NZ pistons will work. And both will give better compression than vitara.
    NZ pistons are super light :)
     
  15. MDCat

    MDCat Member

    As they do under the floating finger? For forged connecting rods.
     
  16. MDCat

    MDCat Member

    By the way Suzuki pistons, suitable for our motors are of two kinds. One with a small hole, the other with a more profound.
     
  17. 5e colin

    5e colin Registered User +

    show us the 1 with 18mm gudgeon pins please :) :)
     
  18. MDCat

    MDCat Member

    I was referring to the depth of the recess in the piston. Or I do not understand the question ... where the piston pin 18 mm? Pistons 18 mm NZ. Suzuki 19mm. Bad English...
     
  19. Skalabala

    Skalabala Registered User +

    The NZ has 18mm pin. MDCat is talking about the piston dish. It is 4.2mm deep and 6mm deep and compression height is 28.3mm(way worse than forged 10cc pistons)
    4E piston compression height is 30mm
     
  20. MDCat

    MDCat Member

    Is it possible to install 2NZ pistons forged connecting rods? My rods are now bored to suit 19mm pin. What are bronze bushings for 18mm? Or do custom?
     

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