View Full Version : Starletgtturbo.co.uk. Our project car
Dave@TM-developments.com
04-09-2007, 06:21 PM
Trial fit of the turbo setup and exhaust, prior to the engine build. Lots of alterations to be made yet!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v674/daveburwash/turbo1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v674/daveburwash/turbo2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v674/daveburwash/turbo3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v674/daveburwash/turbo4.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v674/daveburwash/turbo6.jpg
Cooch
04-09-2007, 06:25 PM
What setup is that Mr. Burwash?
HYBRID
04-09-2007, 06:25 PM
looks really nice dave..
is it a td04L setup?
what ya plannin?
Graham_GT_Turbo
04-09-2007, 06:31 PM
that mani is sex, as above what setup?
Cooch
04-09-2007, 06:32 PM
P.s tell Darren to learn how to drive. Them wheels are FUBARED! Lol
Dave@TM-developments.com
04-09-2007, 06:32 PM
Cheers Kon, its one we've put together ourselves over several months of hunting for bits, TD05
smythy75
04-09-2007, 06:32 PM
i reckon hes plannin, tdo4 with stock radiator!!!
Cooch
04-09-2007, 06:33 PM
i reckon hes plannin, tdo4 with stock radiator!!!
Wrong TDO5 Lol
Dave@TM-developments.com
04-09-2007, 06:33 PM
TD05 with bigger rad :)
goldenvtr
04-09-2007, 06:34 PM
looks good, and theres room for a standard rad! are you going to produce tho manifolds?
smythy75
04-09-2007, 06:34 PM
oh......lol....nice, looking good!!!!!
Hi Dave,
Looking good mate. Looking forward to seeing it on the road...:)
At last - some engine bay shots from Mr Burwash.
You've been too quiet too long!
Looking promising, keep us posted Dave. :)
ChrisGT
04-09-2007, 06:51 PM
That will be insanely loud! Awesome stuff!
Toby@ToyTuning.com
04-09-2007, 06:53 PM
Which TDO5 is that Dave doesn't look far of your original K26/27 unless you've reworked it. That intercooler piping could do with re-routing as it's pretty close to the wastegate but I'm sure just a trial and eorror fit so looking good.
Also screamer pipe means no track action for you boooo! :p
sx_turbo
04-09-2007, 06:55 PM
OMG!!!! thats gonna be one cool engine bay,
starletgt-shady
04-09-2007, 07:04 PM
smart set up looks wicked
lots of fun for dave
Dane_Bristol
04-09-2007, 08:14 PM
Looks spot on Dave cant wait to see the finished product :)
Dave@TM-developments.com
04-09-2007, 08:22 PM
Which TDO5 is that Dave doesn't look far of your original K26/27 unless you've reworked it. That intercooler piping could do with re-routing as it's pretty close to the wastegate but I'm sure just a trial and eorror fit so looking good.
Also screamer pipe means no track action for you boooo!
Not worried about track action Toby, just the strip. Its a td05 16g, and its all got to be moved in several directions yet and it will all be wrapped, just wanted to try it out, will finish it off tomorrow and then it will be ready to bolt straight onto the new engine (whenever that happens)
looks good, and theres room for a standard rad! are you going to produce tho manifolds?
If we take it off the road in the winter we would like to produce them, also have a Blitz 330 kit here we are thinking of having a look at
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Keith@Zisco Performance
04-09-2007, 08:34 PM
looking good dave! :)
HYBRID
04-09-2007, 09:07 PM
Cheers Kon, its one we've put together ourselves over several months of hunting for bits, TD05
looks great man! should produce a nice amount of power im sure.. is that the td05 with the straight cut front? ie the never version td05.. aka the 18g?
very nice setup, one thing though u may wanna consider to put a brace to support the wastegate dave, or rest it to the exhaust.. coz it will crack sadly in due time.. wasteagates get alot of pressure on them, but by the looks of it u used 2mm stainless. nice choice.. that should b more than adequate :)
kon
goldenvtr
04-09-2007, 09:08 PM
Sounds like a plan :p what times you aiming for then on the strip ??
Dave@TM-developments.com
04-09-2007, 09:16 PM
Who knows Dan :)
Dave@TM-developments.com
04-09-2007, 09:18 PM
looks great man! should produce a nice amount of power im sure.. is that the td05 with the straight cut front? ie the never version td05.. aka the 18g?
very nice setup, one thing though u may wanna consider to put a brace to support the wastegate dave, or rest it to the exhaust.. coz it will crack sadly in due time.. wasteagates get alot of pressure on them, but by the looks of it u used 2mm stainless. nice choice.. that should b more than adequate :)
kon
Cheers Kon, there will be plenty of bracing going in;), its a TD05 16g front entry
HYBRID
04-09-2007, 09:21 PM
cool, sounds great then.. not to be rude dave but off what exactly?
lol if u dont mind me asking that is.. looks class btw ;)
goldenvtr
04-09-2007, 09:21 PM
Who knows Dan :)
Would like to see low 12's with that turbo :cool:
is it still a 1.3 lol?
ashygt
04-09-2007, 09:25 PM
very nice dave its going to be an animal like your last one
Dave@TM-developments.com
04-09-2007, 09:28 PM
cool, sounds great then.. not to be rude dave but off what exactly?
lol if u dont mind me asking that is.. looks class btw ;)
Its a scooby turbo
HYBRID
04-09-2007, 09:32 PM
Its a scooby turbo
thanks dave ;)
best of luck!
Dave@TM-developments.com
04-09-2007, 09:35 PM
Cheers mate, with the NOS and anti lag we are hoping for good figures ;)
Dave@TM-developments.com
04-09-2007, 09:36 PM
Would like to see low 12's with that turbo :cool:
is it still a 1.3 lol?
Of course its a 1.3 otherwise its not a starlet, none of this 1.5, 2.0 malarkey:rockon:
Craig
04-09-2007, 09:36 PM
Cheers mate, with the NOS and anti lag we are hoping for good figures ;)
Holy shit - That will haul some severe ass! :quadgt:
Dane_Bristol
04-09-2007, 10:21 PM
Of course its a 1.3 otherwise its not a starlet, none of this 1.5, 2.0 malarkey:rockon:
My thoughts EXACTLY !!!
Dave@TM-developments.com
04-09-2007, 10:23 PM
:gt-smilie:
Craig
04-09-2007, 10:52 PM
My thoughts EXACTLY !!!
Oooo... wait till Daniel (MR2 Turbo Engine) sees this lol :P
goldenvtr
04-09-2007, 10:59 PM
LOL! wait untill mines done then :p :quadgt: :shoot:
Greg0r
04-09-2007, 11:01 PM
does look sexual,
so why no track action because of a screamer pipe?????
Dave@TM-developments.com
04-09-2007, 11:06 PM
Noise levels mate, all we have to is re-route it back in the downpipe if we want. Don't really have the time for track days
Dave@TM-developments.com
04-09-2007, 11:06 PM
LOL! wait untill mines done then :p :quadgt: :shoot:
Will be a hybrid car Dan lol
nice work mr burwash keep it up
goldenvtr
04-09-2007, 11:13 PM
Nothing wrong with a big of evolution :D
Dane_Bristol
04-09-2007, 11:15 PM
Oooo... wait till Daniel (MR2 Turbo Engine) sees this lol :P
Dont get me wrong the conversion to me takes guts and fair play to doing it thats foresure car looks good and is unique thats foresure. But this is just my opinion and a starlet was manufactured to be a 1.3 4e and i will keep it that way and try and extract as much power as i can from it. I just love the fact that it is a 1.3 and will always be one.
Dave@TM-developments.com
04-09-2007, 11:15 PM
Starlets are 1.3 and should remain so IMO, not seen a 1.5 conversion last for any length of time
Dave@TM-developments.com
04-09-2007, 11:17 PM
Agreed Dane, fair play to the guys that did Daniels conversion but not my cup of tea
goldenvtr
04-09-2007, 11:25 PM
Starlets are 1.3 and should remain so IMO, not seen a 1.5 conversion last for any length of time
True but its only a cheap trial and error to be honest for the amount i got the engine for ;) and ill still have my 4e that i can resort back to if it goes wrong.
i did think about forging but the 5e is working out much cheaper for me at the moment,
Dave@TM-developments.com
04-09-2007, 11:27 PM
Just my opinion Dan,each to their own. Would be a sad world if we all did things the same :)
goldenvtr
04-09-2007, 11:33 PM
:homer: True, plus as a mate of mine now has a black forged quadlight i need to be diffrent to him lol
ChrisGT
04-09-2007, 11:35 PM
Anti-lag? Yummy :quadgt:
I'm stick to 1.3 too :)
Even thou a 1.5 conversion would spool my turbo a lot sooner :(
Dave@TM-developments.com
05-09-2007, 08:28 AM
So would better cams, nos etc
Sharagath
05-09-2007, 10:49 AM
Starlets are 1.3 and should remain so IMO, not seen a 1.5 conversion last for any length of time
nice build, looks good maby better than a cruise kit(would love to see the difference).
ALS is maby also a option for me to get it with less lag.
i will hope to get a lasting 5e build:beer:(according to the builder it should)
Dave@TM-developments.com
05-09-2007, 07:12 PM
Thought we'd run it up as we're this far, not sure if we need a silencer or not :)
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v674/daveburwash/?action=view¤t=MOV00076.flv
Cam's will be coming at a later stage :)
NOS is cheating in my books thou, so thats not going to happen.
Car sounds nice BTW.
G6Turbo
05-09-2007, 09:42 PM
cool that u got a mani thats clearing the stock radiator!
car sounds nice :)
Dave@TM-developments.com
05-09-2007, 10:00 PM
Thanks for the comments guys, Gee, NOS will be used to help spool up
Thanks for the comments guys, Gee, NOS will be used to help spool up
Yeah cool.
Mine is a daily driver, so can't be refilling the NOS tank every week :D
Dave@TM-developments.com
05-09-2007, 10:04 PM
Yeah cool.
Mine is a daily driver, so can't be refilling the NOS tank every week :D
Nos will only be used on the track, £55 refill lasts about 10 mins on the road, lol
Cooch
06-09-2007, 06:59 PM
Awesome set up Dave. Sounds sweet too.
Dave@TM-developments.com
06-09-2007, 07:45 PM
Cheers Mr Cooch, had a blast at 2bar on a std engine earlier, fuck it shifts!!!!
Cooch
06-09-2007, 08:11 PM
What! Did the lump hold out?
Dave@TM-developments.com
06-09-2007, 08:15 PM
Didn't do it much good lol, but it still runs (breathily!!)
Cooch
06-09-2007, 08:16 PM
Ha ha. Dave not only have i just remembered i owe you some money but i need a chat. Picking up a bare cylinder head over the weekend and need some advice/suggestions.
azerty
06-09-2007, 08:52 PM
That's the kind of design I like to see :)
Dave@TM-developments.com
06-09-2007, 08:53 PM
Cheers Lionel
Dave@TM-developments.com
06-09-2007, 08:53 PM
No Problem James
That doesn't sound bad at all Dave, was expecting much worse to be honest. Nice work!
Red Hot
06-09-2007, 09:10 PM
hmm, different.
But in a very good way:p
Like the mani a lot.
And with that rad, you won't be having a cooling problem:homer:
Toby@ToyTuning.com
06-09-2007, 09:11 PM
Jay runs to the garage to make a screamer :p
Jay runs to the garage to make a screamer :p
Scream?
The first run in my trackcar took place minus the backbox, the centre section and the cat. Never felt anything spool so quick or scream so loud..
Besides I got a screamer on the other car - but I bet Dave's will be finished before it is.
Dave@TM-developments.com
06-09-2007, 09:40 PM
Got a deadline of 1st October, to build the engine, fit it and run it in as it's going for the ecu and mapping
Got a deadline of 1st October, to build the engine, fit it and run it in as it's going for the ecu and mapping
In that case we'll be hearing your screamer before we hear my screamer..
Nice deadline, now get to it!:)
azerty
06-09-2007, 10:09 PM
Do I hear Autronic ? or are you still thinking about that ecu ?
Dave, just noticed that your computer must be a real jukebox with all those messengers installed ! I haven't heard the legendary ICQ "Ah ha" for quite some time now
Dave@TM-developments.com
06-09-2007, 11:56 PM
Not Autronic, testing a new ECU for Paul :)
jamesgtturbo
19-09-2007, 11:18 PM
nice set up dave look forward to seeing the times
Dave@TM-developments.com
20-09-2007, 12:26 AM
Should have the engine done Monday, loads of stuff done, will post more pics soon
gaz_turbo1
20-09-2007, 01:21 AM
so your going to use the adapt tronic ecu?
AdDaMan
22-09-2007, 05:38 PM
looking very good Dave, will come up and see it v.soon. :)
Sounds like a plan :p what times you aiming for then on the strip ??
Why dont you drive it for them :D
Toby@ToyTuning.com
22-09-2007, 06:00 PM
Cheeky!
Dave@TM-developments.com
22-09-2007, 07:45 PM
I have a driver :)
gaz_turbo1
22-09-2007, 07:46 PM
so your spending and doing all this work on car, THEN someone else is going to drive it ????
goldenvtr
22-09-2007, 07:55 PM
Why dont you drive it for them :D
lol :D :cool:
Dave@TM-developments.com
22-09-2007, 08:07 PM
so your spending and doing all this work on car, THEN someone else is going to drive it ????
Yes Darren, my son, who is building the engine
:homer:
Toby@ToyTuning.com
22-09-2007, 08:08 PM
Is he doing it all by himself? Even machining? Hat's off to him regardless.
T
gaz_turbo1
22-09-2007, 08:12 PM
how old your son then? what does he work along side you or what,
Dave@TM-developments.com
22-09-2007, 08:40 PM
He's 20, does all the fitting here
Dave@TM-developments.com
22-09-2007, 08:42 PM
Is he doing it all by himself? Even machining? Hat's off to him regardless.
T
He will build the engine, as that is his passion, apart from the reboring. I get all the shitty jobs like fitting longer studs to the hubs, deep joy
Adam_Glanza
22-09-2007, 09:17 PM
thats a fathers job there for ya dave ! the shite jobs haha :)
Toby@ToyTuning.com
22-09-2007, 09:35 PM
That's good to hear, look forward to comparing notes :p
Keep us up to speed on the build...
T
Dave@TM-developments.com
22-09-2007, 09:43 PM
What power is yours at now Toby?
Toby@ToyTuning.com
22-09-2007, 09:51 PM
590WHP
Not really, that's strictly confidentail information. Don't worry I'll just throw it at you one day when it's ready! Not going for crazy power, really concentrating on power to ground, chassis response and weight, usual story. Were having a break on her at the moment while I do a few more engineers heads in :p
T
Adam_Glanza
22-09-2007, 09:54 PM
will be great to see when both of you are finished tho! will be like a battle of the tuning shops british style!! lol :)
Dave@TM-developments.com
22-09-2007, 09:55 PM
So how are you getting 500bhp/tonne? Serious weight loss??
gaz_turbo1
22-09-2007, 09:55 PM
yeah c'mon toby, dave put's vids and pics up and tells everyone what he is doing, why don't you? maybe u don't even have a starlet lol lol
Adam_Glanza
22-09-2007, 09:58 PM
it would probably work out at about 350 bhp and lots of weight loss
Dave@TM-developments.com
22-09-2007, 09:59 PM
LMAO, secrets aren't usually worth knowing. We are not going for the "most power" as there is always someone else on the horizon. Just trying to get a respectable figure from a true 1.3 Starlet. When you look at the pro fwd classes you're up against 2.3 super/turbo charged civics, you're never going to compete with them
Dave@TM-developments.com
22-09-2007, 10:00 PM
it would probably work out at about 350 bhp and lots of weight loss
Ah you sound like someone in the know:)
Toby@ToyTuning.com
22-09-2007, 10:00 PM
Pretty much Dave 350 Horses and a slim fast diet. Yeah Gaz were actually 2CV tuners and this is an urban myth :p Ditched the K26 for roller bearing as they can't take big boost for long..
T
Dave@TM-developments.com
22-09-2007, 10:01 PM
K26 is usually better at high boost than roller bearing
Toby@ToyTuning.com
22-09-2007, 10:02 PM
Good estimation Adam. Completely on par with you Dave BHP figures are pub talk. Similar ethos just trying to see what we can truely get from these cars.
T
Toby@ToyTuning.com
22-09-2007, 10:03 PM
We can run less boost with our new setup, produce similar HP results, less abuse and far greater efficiency. How long did your K26 last at 2.0bar?
T
Dave@TM-developments.com
22-09-2007, 10:03 PM
I see were you're going as I believe yours is mainly a track car, too much weight loss in a drag car just promotes traction problems. K26 lasted a long time at 2bar and was still on when sold
Adam_Glanza
22-09-2007, 10:04 PM
lol im afraid im not in the know but its logical really, 350 bhp is about the most you really want on a starlet or itll be ridiculous, and with a bit of weightloss you could get to wat 800kg? bit more bit less? but that works out i believe at around 500bhp a tonne so i hope.. but that would be a rocket neway lol. wat are your aims dave?
gaz_turbo1
22-09-2007, 10:05 PM
lol, so what turbo u gonna use then toby? and what sort of boost? and dave what sort of boost and pistons u going for on the td05
Dave@TM-developments.com
22-09-2007, 10:07 PM
Jesus, that would be 700kg!
Adam_Glanza
22-09-2007, 10:08 PM
wat per tonne? :S im confused dave
Dave@TM-developments.com
22-09-2007, 10:09 PM
350bhp and 700kg = 500bhp/tonne
Adam_Glanza
22-09-2007, 10:10 PM
lol nice :O maybe hes going all out with a carbon bonnet, doors, lightweight windows, and a boot? that would be a nice big saving
gaz_turbo1
22-09-2007, 10:13 PM
lol nice :O maybe hes going all out with a carbon bonnet, doors, lightweight windows, and a boot? that would be a nice big saving
yeah think that the story so far, but up to him to let us no what he doing with his car, gonna be mad tho
Toby@ToyTuning.com
22-09-2007, 10:14 PM
Between 1.5 bar - 1.8 bar pending on what the needs are. The car will be mainly track and drag, expect a few Nurburg visits next year. You want to keep as much weight over the front wheels as possible, the lighter you can make the rear the less weight transfer you will get increasing traction off the line, good for drag. For track we can add some petrol for weight, possibly a little ballast will wait and see.
Look at the HRF car, one person can pick the back up and there pulling 11's. I notcied this was rolled on a circuit in Japan rescently, looking at the damage I would expect it was a lack of weight in the back but we'll look at this when the time comes. Just takes a bit of testing which is why were not in a hurry to complete.
T
Adam_Glanza
22-09-2007, 10:15 PM
well watever happens its gonna be great! and i think they should both offer a run around the track for 5 quid each lol
Toby@ToyTuning.com
22-09-2007, 10:17 PM
If you study the back of the car here at 10 seconds you can see what I mean, little rear weight and 350WHP, you can also see the same thing at 1min 18 seconds in car. It's not that extreme but could catch you off guard so you have to be a little careful:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3K-tIPj15RI
Toby@ToyTuning.com
22-09-2007, 10:18 PM
well watever happens its gonna be great! and i think they should both offer a run around the track for 5 quid each lol
Cost more than that in petrol!
Right off for a beer have a good evening lads :)
T
Dave@TM-developments.com
26-09-2007, 07:21 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v674/daveburwash/P1010689.jpg
gaz_turbo1
26-09-2007, 07:34 PM
good work dan, is that crank knife edge or is it wedged, looks well done , what rods and pistons u going for
Cooch
26-09-2007, 07:35 PM
I'd say Knife edged! Looks great Dave.
gaz_turbo1
26-09-2007, 07:37 PM
yeah looking at it now def knife edged, what the price on one of them dave?
Dan3SGTE
26-09-2007, 07:44 PM
Of course its a 1.3 otherwise its not a starlet, none of this 1.5, 2.0 malarkey:rockon:
My thoughts EXACTLY !!!
Oooo... wait till Daniel (MR2 Turbo Engine) sees this lol :P
Dont get me wrong the conversion to me takes guts and fair play to doing it thats foresure car looks good and is unique thats foresure. But this is just my opinion and a starlet was manufactured to be a 1.3 4e and i will keep it that way and try and extract as much power as i can from it. I just love the fact that it is a 1.3 and will always be one.
nah not at all..... i respect an opinion... there are plenty of things i dont agree with in what people choose in there tuning path to a car but as dave said the world would be boring if everyone did the same thing......
I see what dave and dane are saying though, its not a "true" starlet as it has the heart of a 3SGTE.......
but what i always think the chassis number is still a starlet and the engine code is a 3SGTE....
is an audi R8 or A8/S8 whatever, a lamborghini Gallardo, it shares the same engine.....? thats all ive done is put another toyota engine in a toyota :)
thats just my opinion as we are all entitled to our own.....
anyway dave the car is looking very well, cant wait to see how it performs on track.... should be some very good fun.....
Adam_Glanza
26-09-2007, 07:57 PM
audi r8 and gallardo have the same engine :o?
Dan3SGTE
26-09-2007, 08:20 PM
yuup.....
the V10 out the gallardo was used in the R8.... and also in the A8 or S8, dont remember which one......
also like the seat cupra R/audi tt/golf GTI turbo all use the same engine....
gaz_turbo1
26-09-2007, 08:23 PM
mate people may say it aint a real starlet but what they saying u leave in dust, jealous me thinks,
Dan3SGTE
26-09-2007, 08:26 PM
gary please dont start saying that..... :homer:
you'll get a load of people giving me grief lol.....
nah its just a matter of an opinion, i dont think its jealousy....
Dave@TM-developments.com
26-09-2007, 08:28 PM
Certainly not jeaslousy, I admire the work gone into it
steveep82
26-09-2007, 08:28 PM
nice looking crank that, do you balance it as a whole after knife edging? Come on people lets not spoil daves buildup thread, keep it on topic.
Dave@TM-developments.com
26-09-2007, 08:32 PM
Yes all done after the diet
Dan3SGTE
26-09-2007, 08:34 PM
nice looking crank that, do you balance it as a whole after knife edging? Come on people lets not spoil daves buildup thread, keep it on topic.
your right mate...
sorry dave.... back on...
goldenvtr
26-09-2007, 08:42 PM
Crank looks ace! bet it costs a pretty penny to have done.
miller3
26-09-2007, 08:59 PM
Crank looks ace! bet it costs a pretty penny to have done.
Id say it cost about £250ish
Dave@TM-developments.com
26-09-2007, 09:01 PM
£350
miller3
26-09-2007, 09:12 PM
Is that including the balancing Dave
goldenvtr
26-09-2007, 09:13 PM
i would of thought so lol.
gaz_turbo1
26-09-2007, 09:30 PM
so getting the crank knife edge'd will make car rev up a tad faster, so is it really worth 350 quid, think u would be better of with a lighten flywheel, as it is only a tiny crank any way,
i would say it would work better on a tt supra when the crank is fairly big and heavy
Dave@TM-developments.com
26-09-2007, 09:31 PM
Yes, usually get it done cheaper but needed it quick so had to go elsewhere. Got the block back at 11.30 last night, engine is built and in, just needs all connecting up now
dac69er
26-09-2007, 09:34 PM
youve done well considering what needed doing when i last saw the car!?!?
when will it be road tested?
miller3
26-09-2007, 09:42 PM
so getting the crank knife edge'd will make car rev up a tad faster, so is it really worth 350 quid, think u would be better of with a lighten flywheel, as it is only a tiny crank any way,
i would say it would work better on a tt supra when the crank is fairly big and heavy
No point in just getting the flywheel done' The key to a nice revvy engine is getting the whole bottom end lightened and balanced together
The knife edge is meant to cut through the oil in the sump as not to splash all of the black stuff
miller3
26-09-2007, 09:45 PM
Yes, usually get it done cheaper but needed it quick so had to go elsewhere. Got the block back at 11.30 last night, engine is built and in, just needs all connecting up now
Thats not to drastic tho Dave and it dose look good mate :)
Bet your starting to get excited now arnt you buddy
gaz_turbo1
26-09-2007, 09:48 PM
oh yeah u would get the whole lot lighten and balanced but if u to spend 350 quid extra on bottom end i would go for the flywheel as it will make more of a diference, but if u have the money get both done,
so it's more maintenance helping then performance?
Dave@TM-developments.com
26-09-2007, 10:29 PM
I have a lightened flywheel thanks
Car will be running tomorrow, sort out any problems, get a few miles on it then its off for the ecu on Monday :)
dac69er
26-09-2007, 10:32 PM
what ecu are you running at the moment? you really arent messing about? do you have somwhere dry to work when its raining? weather has been so shit im suprised you have got anything done tbh
Dave@TM-developments.com
26-09-2007, 10:35 PM
It still has the std ecu until Monday
dac69er
26-09-2007, 10:37 PM
bet that runs interestingly to say the least!?!?
Dave@TM-developments.com
26-09-2007, 10:38 PM
Obviously on very little boost................
dac69er
26-09-2007, 10:40 PM
obviously but still. you have larger injectors etc etc i would guess!?
Dave@TM-developments.com
26-09-2007, 10:46 PM
550's going in with ecu
dac69er
26-09-2007, 10:49 PM
fair enough, i stand corrected ;)
gaz_turbo1
27-09-2007, 09:54 AM
so are u using that adapt tronic ecu that engine advanteges are now fitting
gaz_turbo1
28-09-2007, 10:39 AM
dave who made the manifold, and how much?
any moreprogress pics, u got it running yet?
Toby@ToyTuning.com
28-09-2007, 10:48 AM
That's a Cruise manifold Gary, I would imagine he bought parts separately as the Cruise kit isn't cheap when you can build yourself minus manifold.
T
Dave@TM-developments.com
29-09-2007, 06:42 PM
Some more pics
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v674/daveburwash/P1010695.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v674/daveburwash/P1010696.jpg[/IMG
Engine fitted
[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v674/daveburwash/P1010697.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v674/daveburwash/P1010698.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v674/daveburwash/P1010699.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v674/daveburwash/P1010700.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v674/daveburwash/P1010701.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v674/daveburwash/P1010702.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v674/daveburwash/P1010703.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v674/daveburwash/P1010704.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v674/daveburwash/P1010705.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v674/daveburwash/P1010706.jpg
Switch panel
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v674/daveburwash/P1010707.jpg
Off for mapping Monday/Tuesday :)
Idrees
29-09-2007, 06:44 PM
Wow what a beast!
ryan-11
29-09-2007, 06:45 PM
looking awesome :)
Dane_Bristol
29-09-2007, 06:50 PM
This is going to be a monster :) who are you using to map it Dave ? Engine Advantages again ?
Dave@TM-developments.com
29-09-2007, 06:57 PM
Yes Dane, Pauls going to blow it up for us, lol. Will be interesting as its not run in............
Dane_Bristol
29-09-2007, 07:40 PM
Yes Dane, Pauls going to blow it up for us, lol. Will be interestng as its not run in............
Not run in ? You doing it on purpose or just because there is no time. If it blows up i suppose it aint a problem with Kevin on your side :)
Dave@TM-developments.com
29-09-2007, 07:56 PM
Just not got the time Dane, who's Kevin??
gaz_turbo1
29-09-2007, 08:11 PM
lloks quality, see the way u have routed the pcv into the catch tank, did you just block the inlet side up, what make rad and oil cooler have you used there? how much nos u planning on using?
Spoonz
29-09-2007, 08:18 PM
lloks quality, see the way u have routed the pcv into the catch tank, did you just block the inlet side up, what make rad and oil cooler have you used there? how much nos u planning on using?
I was thinking that on your catch tank wheres that pipe goin (not the 1 out the block oviously)
Dave@TM-developments.com
29-09-2007, 08:23 PM
lloks quality, see the way u have routed the pcv into the catch tank, did you just block the inlet side up, what make rad and oil cooler have you used there? how much nos u planning on using?
Inlet side blocked, valve gutted so it blows. Also have removed all the aircon solenoids and blocked all the vac points on the manifold. Not sure on the nitrous side, but with direct port we have 125-150 to play with, but I don't think we will run that much
Dave@TM-developments.com
29-09-2007, 08:24 PM
Rad is one of the ali ones we sell and the oil cooler is Greddy
gaz_turbo1
29-09-2007, 08:28 PM
so whats the advantage of blocking all the vac hose's to the inlet?
150 bhp of nos, so u taken the spring and ball out of the valve
Dave@TM-developments.com
29-09-2007, 08:31 PM
so whats the advantage of blocking all the vac hose's to the inlet?
150 bhp of nos, so u taken the spring and ball out of the valve
Otherwise they would suck in air..............
dantheman
29-09-2007, 10:51 PM
Otherwise they would suck in air..............
heard it gives the turbo quicker spool up?
:p
dave where did you get that heat wrap mate?and where did you get that pipe for your relocation??i have some atm but doesnt look as good quality
Dave@TM-developments.com
29-09-2007, 11:58 PM
Heat wrap is from a very good compamy on Ebay, its graphite impregnated and the ducting is heat restistant brake ducting, very expensive
oh....do you have a link??what price like?
Dave@TM-developments.com
30-09-2007, 12:46 AM
About £50/mt + del
bophilip
30-09-2007, 02:41 PM
awesome stuff, that wil b amazin wen finished
stevetony01
30-09-2007, 02:59 PM
dave is that the standard throttle bodie on there??
Very nice Dave, thanks for the pictures and details.
Why do other people keep their projects such secrets!
NosydneW
30-09-2007, 04:56 PM
Amazing Dave,..what have you done to the head ?
And maybe you don't want to tell us yet but which standalone ecu will you be using to control all this ?
How come you did not use one of the intake manifolds that you are selling with bigger throttleboddy ?
Interesting......... if you would make those manifolds with lots of different turbo flanges and also a plug and play ecu like you will be using......I would be interested.
Dave@TM-developments.com
30-09-2007, 08:41 PM
All in good time and I don't see the point in keeping secrets ;)
miller3
30-09-2007, 10:50 PM
Looking good Dave buddy
NosydneW
01-10-2007, 09:40 AM
hehehe good answer mate !!;):rockon:
Kelly
01-10-2007, 10:02 AM
cant believe saying 5e and 2litres are cheating what about NOS thats cheating too :p
looks good dave.
SiTRD
01-10-2007, 10:04 AM
that looks crazy :) nice one
Dave@TM-developments.com
01-10-2007, 11:37 AM
cant believe saying 5e and 2litres are cheating what about NOS thats cheating too :p
looks good dave.
Firstly as I have always said a starlet is a 1.3 and IMO should stay that way. You could drop a 5.0 V8 in and would it be a starlet, no. You say Nitrous is "cheating", perhaps you can explain that. Nitrous purely introduces more oxygen, nothing more, nothing less. So is water injection cheating??. I think its good to stay withing the given boundaries of the car and enhance what you have, but thats just my thoughts:p
dac69er
01-10-2007, 11:51 AM
1.5 is a nice way to go in some respects but i think that Dave sticking to the 1.3 is showing us all that a 1.5 conversion isnt always the way.
i would still class the 1.5 as a starlet as the engines are sooo similar,just different displacement, but anything else and im not sure
Good luck with the new car dave... Hope you get some nice results.
I'm also building a Greddy TD05 glanza for a friend... though it will take a couple of months till it rolls out.
Dave@TM-developments.com
01-10-2007, 02:43 PM
Cheers Alex, hope all goes well with yours
sx_turbo
01-10-2007, 02:52 PM
hi dave i noticed, you are going to use engine advantages to setup your car.
do you know if he can tune the greddy emanage?
also what chip are you going to be using?
Dave@TM-developments.com
01-10-2007, 03:06 PM
Yes he does E manage
Toby@ToyTuning.com
01-10-2007, 03:28 PM
Looking good Mr B. One thing with stainless manifolds guys if you intent to wrap like Dave has then you must make sure it's completey clean before applying the wrap as any dirt will create heat spots which can crack them.
We will be doing the same with the 1300 block for now so it will be interesting to see how we do with such large turbos. Anyhow keep up the good work mate...
T
Kelly
01-10-2007, 03:59 PM
Firstly as I have always said a starlet is a 1.3 and IMO should stay that way. You could drop a 5.0 V8 in and would it be a starlet, no. You say Nitrous is "cheating", perhaps you can explain that. Nitrous purely introduces more oxygen, nothing more, nothing less. So is water injection cheating??. I think its good to stay withing the given boundaries of the car and enhance what you have, but thats just my thoughts:p
damm dave shame you cant put the same effort into replies when ive asked for help and advice in the past :p
nitrous isnt engine tuning tho but like you this is my opinion.
Dave@TM-developments.com
01-10-2007, 06:50 PM
You wouldn't believe how much time I spend on the phone purely giving advice
stuart
01-10-2007, 06:57 PM
You wouldn't believe how much time I spend on the phone purely giving advice
Or MSN, cheers dave :)
lennyEP82
01-10-2007, 07:03 PM
where did u get that lovely braided line for your catch tank dave and how much did it set u back? looking savage btw
Dave@TM-developments.com
01-10-2007, 07:53 PM
From my local magical hose supplier :)
magical hoses? they grant wishes ? :D :P
Dave@TM-developments.com
03-10-2007, 08:21 PM
Sneak vid for you
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v674/daveburwash/?action=view¤t=starletbeforemapping.flv
kingyglanza
03-10-2007, 08:30 PM
Sound gorgeous Dave, Shame about the gay music in the background though. Any dyno results/figures yet?
Dave@TM-developments.com
03-10-2007, 08:31 PM
Should be tomorrow
Adam_Glanza
03-10-2007, 08:36 PM
yea dave edit out that bloody music you cant hear that sexy lady singing
Dave@TM-developments.com
03-10-2007, 10:04 PM
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v674/daveburwash/?action=view¤t=starlet1-1.flv
dac69er
03-10-2007, 10:07 PM
is that with standard cams dave? sounds a bit strange? does sound very motorbike like, and it is quite quiet like you said it was!
gaz_turbo1
03-10-2007, 10:08 PM
sounds lovely, so u keeping the bike exhaust on it then?
That sounds pretty......... :o
Looking good though Dave, should be a wee fire cracker when done! :flame:
Rory
Dave@TM-developments.com
03-10-2007, 10:20 PM
Was running far too rich with the new cams
Dane_Bristol
03-10-2007, 10:20 PM
Sounds so nice Mr B, cant wait to see what you get tomorrow when the results are given if the car is ready.
tmontana
04-10-2007, 06:56 AM
can you post some pictures of the whole car dave?
Dave@TM-developments.com
04-10-2007, 07:26 AM
Will do when its mapped
king_stu
04-10-2007, 11:25 AM
Question Dave, what chamber you running on the fronts? (is it setup for drag or street/track?)
stu
Toby@ToyTuning.com
04-10-2007, 11:55 AM
Camber will vary across the board Stu and Dave's car may be very different to yours. You need to ideally have the aligment checked once all your items are on. General rule of thumb is 0 degrees camber for qtr mile as you want maximum contact patch, a little positive camber can help as the wheels naturally full into negative when you accelerate.
For circuit you want some negative camber on the front but this will vary on the type of circuit. We run up to 3 degree neg which is quite a lot but gives amazing turn in. After this you have thrust angles, corner weights, toe, castor, steering angle etc etc..
T
steveep82
04-10-2007, 12:51 PM
Dave, standard throttle body on this setup?
kingyglanza
04-10-2007, 08:54 PM
Any results yet Dave????
Dane_Bristol
06-10-2007, 10:25 AM
Still no news on the RR Dave ? So anxious to see the result lol.
gaz_turbo1
06-10-2007, 09:18 PM
any results yet dave?
Dave@TM-developments.com
06-10-2007, 09:27 PM
Initial results are 320bhp @ 1.6 bar, Paul couldn't get a readable figure with nitrous due to wheelspin even in 5th gear, his trusted estimate was "an easy 400bhp"
Back for further mapping and to iron out a few problems next week
Nick@TD.co.uk
06-10-2007, 09:30 PM
Initial results are 320bhp @ 1.6 bar, Paul couldn't get a readable figure with nitrous due to wheelspin even in 5th gear, his trusted estimate was "an easy 400bhp"
Back for further mapping and to iron out a few problems next week
My god! whats the spool up like? and a possible dyno graph available? thats unbelievable
gaz_turbo1
06-10-2007, 09:31 PM
sweet result mate, that a impreza td0516g or evo one?
what bout them inlets you sel how comes ur not using one of them?,
how long it take to get the adapt tronic set up?
dantheman
06-10-2007, 09:40 PM
nice result dave, that running the hybrid td04 like mine?
dantheman
06-10-2007, 09:42 PM
or was it that td05? cant remember what car you said you had the hybrid td04 on now..
gaz_turbo1
06-10-2007, 09:43 PM
na dan he using a td05 looks like the scooby flange,
how's ur's going PM
dantheman
06-10-2007, 09:45 PM
same old story mate waiting on bits!
goldenvtr
06-10-2007, 09:45 PM
Nice result dave, look forwards to seeing it in action :D
siilversurfer_69
07-10-2007, 04:42 PM
looking good, it will be intresting to see what my td05 will hit compared to yours
Adam_Glanza
07-10-2007, 05:45 PM
geez louise!!
wats 400bhp like in a starlet lol :| i bet that is an absolute monster!
congratz mate.
will you be running that kinda power on the track or will you tone it down a bit?
surely you wont get traction at all?
Dave@TM-developments.com
07-10-2007, 07:49 PM
Thanks for the comments guys, I think there will be much testing on the strip :)
thetruth
07-10-2007, 08:03 PM
This car is gonna be a beast. Congrats on the numbers.
Adam_Glanza
07-10-2007, 08:40 PM
dave get some more videos of the car revving now its run in proper! i wanna see how she screams :D
if not then maybe a driven vid? bet it sounds lovely
Dave@TM-developments.com
07-10-2007, 09:28 PM
Back for more mapping and other ecu bits first
Adam_Glanza
07-10-2007, 09:29 PM
fair play mate i bet your very pleased with your results,
will you be putting up a full spec list soon?
what boost you intending on running
gaz_turbo1
07-10-2007, 09:31 PM
so did you get the adapt tronic ecu fitted?
what did paul say bout the ecu, is it hard to fit and what features did you have fitted with it?
Dave@TM-developments.com
07-10-2007, 09:50 PM
Comments on the ecu will be posted when its finished, but its looking good ;)
Small vid of first mapping run
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v674/daveburwash/?action=view¤t=RR1.flv
Splendid!
Looking good Dave.
Rory
gaz_turbo1
07-10-2007, 09:57 PM
yeah have been looking at that ecu, been told bout 1200 quid o get all fitted and set up, but not sure what extra's he fit's anti lag, full throttlegear changes ect,
car sounds savage
siilversurfer_69
07-10-2007, 10:04 PM
that last bit when its boosting sounds f***ing awesome dave, which TD05H 16G did you go for small or big? are you going for the near the max 27.6psi ?
will you post the dyno graph dave?
Dave@TM-developments.com
08-10-2007, 02:29 PM
We will when we get one Alex
Darius
08-10-2007, 04:28 PM
Very nice, will be good to see what it does on the tarmac :D
Why does he rev the engine when he had let of the gas?
miller3
08-10-2007, 07:17 PM
Why does he rev the engine when he had let of the gas?
iirc this is to measure resistance in the transmission to calculate the power @ the fly
But dont quote me on that lol
Sounds like its reving with the clutch dumped?
jamesgtturbo
08-10-2007, 07:31 PM
thats going to be a handful dave lol . are you using some sort of traction control system ?
Adam_Glanza
08-10-2007, 07:56 PM
i dont know why but when ive always heard over dyno videos i thought it was the car coming back down threw the gears, but i suppose maybe its to notch up some more lines for the graph to show the difference in power?
Sharagath
08-10-2007, 09:22 PM
Initial results are 320bhp @ 1.6 bar, Paul couldn't get a readable figure with nitrous due to wheelspin even in 5th gear, his trusted estimate was "an easy 400bhp"
Back for further mapping and to iron out a few problems next week
damm thats huge
how will you handle it when you shoot NOS
any traction controle options or launch controle??
Sounds like its reving with the clutch dumped?
he is doing that to keep the oil and water flowing after he's given it some...
he is doing that to keep the oil and water flowing after he's given it some...
Thanks :)
Adam_Glanza
09-10-2007, 04:36 PM
nice little bit of info there thanks for clearing it up aga lol
just a quick one Dave, i see you have connected the 2nd pipe from the catch can to the PCV valve? what's the bennefit in doing that, and can that be done with any GT?:homer:
sx_turbo
10-10-2007, 10:08 AM
Why does he rev the engine when he had let of the gas?
he done this with my car gee
Dave@TM-developments.com
11-10-2007, 02:39 PM
As long as you gut the valve, this is temporary til we get the right fitting
gaz_turbo1
16-10-2007, 02:04 PM
got any more results then, got any dyno graph's to put up?
gv1.3
18-10-2007, 05:45 AM
cool video Dave. Shes really coming along! that switch panel made me laugh.. I wouldnt be able to drive a car with red switches Id keep hearing in my mind "press it.... press it"
starletgt-shady
18-10-2007, 06:21 PM
looks awsome dave well done
Dave@TM-developments.com
18-10-2007, 06:22 PM
cool video Dave. Shes really coming along! that switch panel made me laugh.. I wouldnt be able to drive a car with red switches Id keep hearing in my mind "press it.... press it"
I know that feeling, must resist..............
Cooch
19-10-2007, 05:52 PM
That is crazy Dave. Remind me to keep out the way of Darren now! Lol
Dave@TM-developments.com
02-11-2007, 09:26 AM
Good to see you James, now back on X factor :)
NosydneW
02-11-2007, 10:38 AM
You have new results Dave ? Anymore news on tuning this beast ?
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