URGENT - advice needed - My mates freshly imported Integrea impounded by Police!

[dave-gtturbo]

My mate was stopped earlier today for having no seatbelt on, but this was/is the least of his worries!

They went on to explain his car was registered as a honda motorcycle, and that it might be stolen (it IS a fresh import from WRC Sales only bought last week!).

The car is registered to his name and address correctly, but the registration to a Honda Motorcycle (Assumably because its a fresh import).

They then proceeded to explain they were taking it from in (impounding it!) and that if it doesn't check out he'll never see it again! Simple as that...

Anyone got idea what he can do?? They took it today and explained it won't be examinded until Monday at least... But that they'd let him off with the seatbelt fine! (how nice! :( )

Dave

[Rory]

I would phone WRC and create hell.
Its there job to register the car, and to do it right.

Unlucky though, especially with xmas around the corner.

[jamesgtturbo]

what the fuck !! thats bad , how dod they get away with registering it as a motorcycle , either a mistake or somthing dodgys going on . my first port of call would be to phone wrc and see what they say

[dave-gtturbo]

Thats what i advised him to do...

Still shocking that they can do this, and to be "decent" offer you a lift to the train station :(

I'm appalled, i'd hate that to happen to me, i think the police are getting far to much power, only takes a night of TV (street crime UK and similar) to see how heavy handed they can be for little reason. Sometimes it is deserved of course, but a lot of Police officers abuse what power they have, in my opinion.

Dave

[Craig]

As said, phone WRC.

[ryan-11]

yeah i would phone WRC

[Rob_00]

he should take WRC to court. he would surely get his money back for the car + costs for inconvenience. hopefully they get shut down to save other people from the problems they seem to cause

[Gord R]

WRC should be liable for this , or it is DVLA cock up.. i cant think why it should be a problem for your mate , unless WRC deniy they sold it to him.

[dave-gtturbo]

Yea, what horror stories are there going about?

I should make it clear that the Integra is great, and that until this, they were a pleasure to deal with ;)

Dave

[dave-gtturbo]

WRC should be liable for this , or it is DVLA cock up.. i cant think why it should be a problem for your mate , unless WRC deniy they sold it to him.

They should be, but its inconvenient, he's no car to get to work in now, and he was stranded up in Glasgow :(

I'd go mental lol

[Glanza-V]

Understandable mistake speaking from my own cars being registered wrong to due to DVLA messing up.

Iv had a word with WRC and they said they will get it rectified when the Buyer contacts them.

[faisalgtturbo]

saves him right for not wearing his seat belt. lol

just joking boys

he should get in touch with wrc and dvla to find out
who has made a mistake/error

i'd be fuming if that happend to me
faisal

[dave-gtturbo]

Thanks Akki ;)

i'm calling my mate the now, hopefully it'll be fixed soon ;)

[Glanza-V]

Dave tell ur mate to contact WRC and he will take it from thier. If he hasnt all ready doen so.

[Jules-B]

what can i say


WRC are a bunch of cowboys!

[jamesgtturbo]

what can i say


WRC are a bunch of cowboys!

why do you say that ?

[aaronw]

very sad news for your mate,but i would think the police were laying it on thicker than reality,its bin a mistake and as a fresh import its obviously not stolen,id guess it wont be done ina week or so but he should get his car back for a 'misunderstanding' between wrc and dvla,...bet its a rare mistake that commenly happens when registering cars??

[Jules-B]

why do you say that ?



ive heard more than enough storys about them, and ive been there myself,and i know what the some of the cars are like, this just sounds like somthing they wouldnt really care about sorting out, hence my comment:)

[dave-gtturbo]

very sad news for your mate,but i would think the police were laying it on thicker than reality,its bin a mistake and as a fresh import its obviously not stolen,id guess it wont be done ina week or so but he should get his car back for a 'misunderstanding' between wrc and dvla,...bet its a rare mistake that commenly happens when registering cars??

Hopefully it'll be quick mate, i really feel for him :( He waited so long to get it, and really took his time picking it out! Hope its all ok when he does get it back.

Dave

[zeromx]

i had one my import cars registered as Ford Escort... no biggie, just contacted DVLA and sorted it out, DVLA mistake not seller mistake... this is the not the first time i heard such things...

[dave-gtturbo]

oh, btw, thanks to whoever moved it, you'd think i'd know where to post this by now! ;)

[Jay]

No worries Dave, easy mistake.

My advice is to make the first call to WRC and the second call to DVLA. The third call should be to a good solictor who will use the info from the first and second calls to offer sound legal advice.

From that point he will be in a better position to talk to the police.

Sounds like a messup between the trader and the DVLA so it shouldn't be too difficult to sort. Just a pity it's over xmas mate.

[Monkfish]

Have you tried checking the reg plate against the DVLA Database (http://www.vehiclelicence.gov.uk/EvlPortalApp/application;JSESSIONID_EvlPortalApp=Hn9zFMB3s2mYwZ TXwLRBPVgmRL181b17YLx2Hk0zVCp14gNQJhZH!-1119231353!-682696021?origin=vnav_bar.jsp&event=bea.portal.framework.internal.refresh&pageid=Home) to see what it comes up as?

As already said though. Telephone. WRC Sales. Hell. Go!

[Toby@ToyTuning.com]

No worries Dave, easy mistake.

My advice is to make the first call to WRC and the second call to DVLA. The third call should be to a good solictor who will use the info from the first and second calls to offer sound legal advice.

From that point he will be in a better position to talk to the police.

Sounds like a messup between the trader and the DVLA so it shouldn't be too difficult to sort. Just a pity it's over xmas mate.


Follow the above advice and report back...

T

[Jules-B]

yes mate please keep us updated

[dave-gtturbo]

Well, the car is still in the impound lot, the DVLA check comes up all ok, and the V5 my mate has for the car is all correct, and the car is showing registered correctly to his name and address too, with no discrepancies in the make/model/details at all...

He's been in the police station all day today trying to sort this out, i'll let you all know how it goes.

Dave

[dave-gtturbo]

Well, the update is that the chassis number appears to have been tampered with, so my mate didn't get it back :(

On top of this, they now want "forensics" to examin the car, delaying it by a week at least :(

[Jules-B]

somthing one would think an import company would see!,

[hardcoreep]

This is hilarious. How do you register an Integra as a motorcycle?

[gv1.3]

For those commenting on the import company involved be carefull.. Posts from this site have been used in liable cases before. Just a friendly reminder

[Jules-B]

I suppose that was directed at me.

responded by pm

[sx_turbo]

sounds like the police made a cock up originally and looked up the registration wrong, as dave said every thing checks out ok.

the downside is the the police have found another discrepency....... or have they????

sounds like a classic case of police not wanting to admit they have made a mistake.

[Damage]

sounds like the police made a cock up originally and looked up the registration wrong, as dave said every thing checks out ok.

the downside is the the police have found another discrepency....... or have they????

sounds like a classic case of police not wanting to admit they have made a mistake.

Ditto ... how did they go wrong registered as a motorcycle to the code number beings played with ...

[Phenom]

sounds like a classic case of police not wanting to admit they have made a mistake.

Police making mistakes - PLLEEEEEEEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LMFAO ;)

[Nwimie]

oh dear seems like a right mess hope it gets sorted just keep us updated !!

[dave-gtturbo]

Will do guys, thanks everyone for the input i should also say, i'll let you all know as it develops :)

Dave

[Monkfish]

If the chassis number has indeed been tampered with as the Police are stating, tell your mate to speak with the importers as that is something that should be checked against the Japanese documents, assuming the car has any.

There are 3 possibilites...


It was tampered with in Japan, given false documents and the importers honestly didn't know.
It was tampered with in Japan, given false documents and the importers knew.
The importers tampered with the car when it arrived in the UK.


Either way, he should seek legal advise from a solicitor.

Your mate may also want to ask the Police how it is they know it's registered as a motorcycle despite the DVLA computer and V5 stating otherwise. If a registration check with the DVLA states that that given reg plate is an Integra, then that is what the plate is registered to. The DVLA is the sole database for vehicle registrations, meaning that if his plate is showing as a motorbike, it is entirely possible that the plate has been duplicated (As in, there is an illegal motorcycle in the UK with the same plate reported as stolen) or that the DVLA plain fucked up. This is all bollocks though if the VIN plates have indeed been tampered with.

Go young Clueso, go investimigate! :homer:

[sx_turbo]

If the chassis number has indeed been tampered with as the Police are stating, tell your mate to speak with the importers as that is something that should be checked against the Japanese documents, assuming the car has any.

There are 3 possibilites...


It was tampered with in Japan, given false documents and the importers honestly didn't know.
It was tampered with in Japan, given false documents and the importers knew.
The importers tampered with the car when it arrived in the UK.


Either way, he should seek legal advise from a solicitor.

Your mate may also want to ask the Police how it is they know it's registered as a motorcycle despite the DVLA computer and V5 stating otherwise. If a registration check with the DVLA states that that given reg plate is an Integra, then that is what the plate is registered to. The DVLA is the sole database for vehicle registrations, meaning that if his plate is showing as a motorbike, it is entirely possible that the plate has been duplicated (As in, there is an illegal motorcycle in the UK with the same plate reported as stolen) or that the DVLA plain fucked up. This is all bollocks though if the VIN plates have indeed been tampered with.

Go young Clueso, go investimigate! :homer:

the police computers are linked direct to the DVLA, so if everything is correct as dave said, then im afraid the police have made a monumental fuckup.

i really cant see the VIN plates being tampered with. Theres a lot of restrictions and rules in place to prevent this. although im not saying its not possible.

[dave-gtturbo]

^ I find it hard to believe the car has been tampered with too, WRC Sales are a very reputable company, and this kind of bad publicity wouldn't be worth the money in a situation like theirs...

I spoke to a few folk i know who are in the Police, and they said that any discrepancies like that mean the car has to be impounded pending further investigation, what i can't understand, much like everyone else here, is how (on two seperate occasions, two different sets of police officers and two different places entirely) the car could be stopped for the same reason, given that all the documentation, and the DVLA themselves all stating everything is good.

Because its happened twice, i can't see it being a Police mistake? If that makes sense?

Rather like when i got my last car, the plate seems to have been registered to something else previously, and when i used my old starlets reg plate anywhere (insurance websites etc), it came up as a Toyota Hilux...

Now all my documentation was indeed correct, and the only reason i could think of was that it was perhaps previously on a Toyota Hilux at some point (my on registration plate i mean). Perhaps this is the same confusion, but worse because his plate was on a motorcycle previously? (Perhaps scrapped, deported, written off or whatever)

Its food for thought, but who knows what the deal really is :( Either way, the only possible outcome i find reasonable is a DVLA/Police mixup

Dave

[Monkfish]

What was the reason for the car being pulled over on the two occasions? From the original post, I see that not wearing a seat belt was one reason, but what was the reason on the other occasion?

Something is not making sense here. It is entirely possible the DVLA monumentally fucked up in not amending the database to remove a certain plate from a motorcycle (for whatever reason), which was then added to your mates car, but then surely if the database hadn't been amended, the plate would not have been issued as it's a duplicate?

[dave-gtturbo]

Just a silly reason, i cant remember off the top of my head (and i was there at the time too lol). You know how it is sometimes :P

I know what you mean Monkfish, there is something not quite right at all...

We spoke to WRC Sales, and the guy their has been very helpful, and cannot find ANY reason why this could have happened. I highly doubt (as some people have thought) that they have had any involvement in anything dodgy which may/may not have happened. The car is plastered with WRC Sales stickers too... See where i'm coming from?

I can't imagine how the DVLA have fucked up, but its the only thing i can think of... Then again, i was pulled over in my old starlet a few times, and it never posed a problem, but my car was showing as a HILUX (car/4x4 thing) and not a motorbike, so maybe that went unnoticed.

The discrepancy with my car was amended (seemingly) automatically, which lead me to believe it was just a normal thing with a plate being assigned/changed over. Just takes time for the paperwork to go through? The same happened when i put my private plate onto my old Xsara, the plate wasn't showing as linked to any car (through an insurance website/DVLA) for a noticable amount of time (days/weeks/can't remember exactly). During which i was ordered to return a producer (hortie!) to the local police station.

Its all guesswork atm i guess, but i'll post up anything new that occurs as and when i find out ;)

Dave

[storey]

any news yet i bought my car from wrc sales and they were very good.

[hubbygt]

no knews yet folks,wrc and dvla cant see any problem with the car but the police still strongly believe that the car is stolen.it should be getting looked over by her majestys finest any time now but they have not got back to him yet.but he is now taking legal action to try and speed things up by contacting his lawyer,fingers crossed it may get sorted out this week and he could have the teg back very soon

[rb69]

Best of luck to him and i hope he gets it sorted. I bought my Glanza from WRC sales, I hope it's not registered as a Grasshopper or something!
Seriously though, they seemed very helpful when i bought my car from them and offered help if i needed anything for it in the future.

[tucka]

dammnnnn hope your friend gets his ride back man, i would be gutted if this happend to me!

[Greg0r]

Any news on this?

[dave-gtturbo]

Alright, he got a letter through today to say he can come collect it anytime now! :D

They were under the impression that the bulkhead was "too clean" and that the real chassis number had been "cataloyed" over and a new one written in.

How ridiculous. On the plus side, its all over now, hopefully the car is as mint as it was when it went in!

Dave

[tucka]

f**kin police! so cos his car is clean they fort it was suspicious! lol damn they dont wanna see mine i polish everything lol i would get sentenced to life lol

[sx_turbo]

Alright, he got a letter through today to say he can come collect it anytime now! :D

They were under the impression that the bulkhead was "too clean" and that the real chassis number had been "cataloyed" over and a new one written in.

How ridiculous. On the plus side, its all over now, hopefully the car is as mint as it was when it went in!

Dave

i said it was the police not admitting a cock up. what a useless bunch of idiots.

i say sue the scumbags.

[tucka]

i said it was the police not admitting a cock up. what a useless bunch of idiots.

i say sue the scumbags.

i totaly agree why should they get away with it, they have caused undue stress and hassel and taken the means of transport away from the guy to!

[goldenvtr]

Bunch of bloody idiots! he should get some form of compensation for that.

[Greg0r]

tell him to write a major letter of complaint, loss of earnings, stress, having to pay for transport etc...

he will defo get some of it back

was it a DC2 or DC5??? im so tempted to get a DC5

[dave-gtturbo]

his is a DC2, but another mate of mine just got a brand new DC5 imported from japland through dicksons of perth i think. Came in with about 14 miles on it too. Its an incredible car, interior is mint and it bloody flies! The DC2 is a cracker too, interior isn't much different, and the seats are soo nice... I always thought the dc2 front end was the nicest - but i've always prefered older cars to be honest...

Either way, both mint cars!

And yea... He's on the case for some compo!

[59bhp]

what a bunch of tossers,

i better watch out i cleaned my bulkhead yesterday!!!

Hope he nails them to the effin wall!

[HutchGlanzaV]

Theres a message here folks, never clean your car! lol

[Shorty]

my first glanza was registered as a toyota celica gt4 1300 turbo!! lol only one of its kind thats for sure. got that sorted with dvla easy enough. still atleast your mate has got it all sorted out. wont be washin my car again any time soon lol

[Phenom]

Police making mistakes - PLLEEEEEEEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LMFAO ;)

Who'd av ever thought it...................................

ROFLMFAO................................:cops::con fused::confused::cops: