Teenage Pregnancy Video
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Captain Starlet
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My view on this is people judge FAR to early a persons character. Just because certain groups let the side down and fuck about doesnt mean they all are a let down.
I feel teenage pregnancy is fine/okay if both are mature about the situation theres no reason for it not to work.
I feel teenage pregnancy is fine/okay if both are mature about the situation theres no reason for it not to work.
thefalls
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Teenagers need to grow up first then think about having a child.
But try to look out for some 'mature' teenagers around...if you see lots then you are lucky...
Before anyone says " yeah,teenagers are sexually and physically capable of having a child and they have a right to do so!"....
Lets stop right here,physically they are not ready to have a child.
Why?Because at that age the bones of the body [speaking of women] have not fully strengthened [epiphysis not closed yet!],so if someone is still in their "growing" years then how can they have a perfectly healthy child?
Most of the teenagers that i have seen deliver in the gynae & obs dept appear to have low birth weight babies.
I have also followed them during their pregnancies,thats is antenatal care.
Honestly not many have impressed me.
What i am saying is not the absolute truth...there are exceptions..
But to base yourself on a few exceptions in a big crowd is hardly any decent judgement.
But try to look out for some 'mature' teenagers around...if you see lots then you are lucky...
Before anyone says " yeah,teenagers are sexually and physically capable of having a child and they have a right to do so!"....
Lets stop right here,physically they are not ready to have a child.
Why?Because at that age the bones of the body [speaking of women] have not fully strengthened [epiphysis not closed yet!],so if someone is still in their "growing" years then how can they have a perfectly healthy child?
Most of the teenagers that i have seen deliver in the gynae & obs dept appear to have low birth weight babies.
I have also followed them during their pregnancies,thats is antenatal care.
Honestly not many have impressed me.
What i am saying is not the absolute truth...there are exceptions..
But to base yourself on a few exceptions in a big crowd is hardly any decent judgement.
Captain Starlet
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what makes someone more mature when they turn say 21? do they just wake up all of a sudden with a sensible head over an 18 year old?
How can you say that as there teenagers the babies arnt healthy. I mean comeon thats so incorrect.
i know of many immature 25 year olds, just as of their age can they have babies?
How can you say that as there teenagers the babies arnt healthy. I mean comeon thats so incorrect.
i know of many immature 25 year olds, just as of their age can they have babies?
gv1.3
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I dont believe that being older makes you immediately fit to be a parent but I do believe that you should give a child the best start in life. Usually people mature as they get older and they have more earning potential enabling them to better provide a financially stable environment for the child.
Now.. let me tell you my reasons for thinking teenagers should not have kids. I dont think it is fair to have the burden of your child placed on tax payers. You can come up with all the "because you are young it doesnt mean you dont earn" or "there are plenty of older people claiming benefits" that may be true. But generally speaking the older you get the more financially sound you become.
I think ALL people should be means tested before being allowed to have kids. In my opinion if you cannot look after your own children then you should not be allowed have children.
Children are undervalued in society in my opinion. They are just these things that you can have if you feel like it or if you make a mistake "it just happened". Bullshit!
When I think back to how I was when I was 17 I would have been considered very mature for my age. The last thing on my mind was having children and still I am in a pretty stable position now and I know that my life would not allow me give enough time for raising a child so I choose not to have one... remember it is a choice... you dont one day wake up and there is a baby there you have to make it.
You might think at 17 or 18 that someone is mature but other factors need to be taken in to consideration. Can they afford the baby? if they can afford the baby then I have no issue with them having one, you show me a 17 or 18 year old that is financially stable - they are very few and far between and if they have the good sense to be financially stable at that age I bet the last thing they are thinking about is having kids.
Now.. let me tell you my reasons for thinking teenagers should not have kids. I dont think it is fair to have the burden of your child placed on tax payers. You can come up with all the "because you are young it doesnt mean you dont earn" or "there are plenty of older people claiming benefits" that may be true. But generally speaking the older you get the more financially sound you become.
I think ALL people should be means tested before being allowed to have kids. In my opinion if you cannot look after your own children then you should not be allowed have children.
Children are undervalued in society in my opinion. They are just these things that you can have if you feel like it or if you make a mistake "it just happened". Bullshit!
When I think back to how I was when I was 17 I would have been considered very mature for my age. The last thing on my mind was having children and still I am in a pretty stable position now and I know that my life would not allow me give enough time for raising a child so I choose not to have one... remember it is a choice... you dont one day wake up and there is a baby there you have to make it.
You might think at 17 or 18 that someone is mature but other factors need to be taken in to consideration. Can they afford the baby? if they can afford the baby then I have no issue with them having one, you show me a 17 or 18 year old that is financially stable - they are very few and far between and if they have the good sense to be financially stable at that age I bet the last thing they are thinking about is having kids.
dan_ep82
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Agree here 100%,
for most young mums these days, having a kid is more like having a fashion accessory.
Captain Starlet
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i agree with what your saying dylan i do feel its wrong when certain people just use children for an easy ride.
People young can still make good money. Im 21 and a tyre fitter now im sure theres people probably sitting behind a checkout making more money than i am making, and i see myself and my wage sufficient to raise a child in good manner.
i feel the most crucial thing in my point is for the mum and dad to be together, supporting financialy and raising together!
People young can still make good money. Im 21 and a tyre fitter now im sure theres people probably sitting behind a checkout making more money than i am making, and i see myself and my wage sufficient to raise a child in good manner.
i feel the most crucial thing in my point is for the mum and dad to be together, supporting financialy and raising together!
Captain Starlet
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yes you will get people like that but you have to remember not all teenage parents are like that for example:
you get enthusiast starlet owners and you get knob owners, it takes all sorts to make a world but what annoys me is when everyone is put into the one category.
You cant base your opinon on television and your local area. I mean on tele and papers you always read and see the bad storys as i mean comeon nobody wants to read about the norm.
drew-turbo
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but i bet they still love them
dac69er
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we have all these age related rules to stop us doing things unless we are old enough etc, but there is nothing to say whether we can have a child or not. if a 14 year old isnt old enough to be in charge of a car then how can they be capable of supporting a child?
i agree with dylan. means testing to have a child would be a good idea but just not practical.
one of my mates girlfriends wanted a child so badly as her friends had one and she wanted to fit in and she is too lazy to work. she kept tricking my mate into having unprotected sex with her so she ended up getting pregnant.
she just wanted one as an accessory and a means to get benefits and an excuse not to work.
i know of a few girls who have similar ideas and it is disgusting.
im almost 25 and i dont feel anywhere near ready to have a child.
i agree with dylan. means testing to have a child would be a good idea but just not practical.
one of my mates girlfriends wanted a child so badly as her friends had one and she wanted to fit in and she is too lazy to work. she kept tricking my mate into having unprotected sex with her so she ended up getting pregnant.
she just wanted one as an accessory and a means to get benefits and an excuse not to work.
i know of a few girls who have similar ideas and it is disgusting.
im almost 25 and i dont feel anywhere near ready to have a child.
gv1.3
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the problem is though how many teenagers remain going out with the same person when they are nearly 40 years old? Not many to be honest. Infact I dont know one of my friends that is with the same girl they were with when they were 17 or 18.
I am not disputing that teenagers can make good parents my concern is for the stability of the childs upbringing. It is difficult enough to raise a child when you are in a stable relationship with a stable life but the fact is that the majority of people who are going out with each other in their teens do not get married and their relationships often ends as soon as they get in to their 20s.
A friend of mine and his girlfriend had a child very young. They are both very different to how they were back then. He is married and she moved off to England. The child now travels back and forth between them. The family courts are littered with cases such as these.
I am not disputing that teenagers can make good parents my concern is for the stability of the childs upbringing. It is difficult enough to raise a child when you are in a stable relationship with a stable life but the fact is that the majority of people who are going out with each other in their teens do not get married and their relationships often ends as soon as they get in to their 20s.
A friend of mine and his girlfriend had a child very young. They are both very different to how they were back then. He is married and she moved off to England. The child now travels back and forth between them. The family courts are littered with cases such as these.
Captain Starlet
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They shouldnt as the law states the legal age for sex is 16 ( that wasnt intented to sound prickish there or stating the obv
)Why should everyone be judged on the minority?
gv1.3
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I dont think this is a case of the minority mate. I would say the amount of teens that are financially stable and able to finance a child are in the minority not the majority. So that would mean the majority are getting benefits or are leaning on their parents which is no way to start a childs life.
How many teenagers do you know that could pay for somewhere decent to live, pay medical bills, pay for general expenses involved with having a baby, put food on the table etc etc etc.... I honestly dont think that many teens can afford to do that.
Captain Starlet
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when the mother and father are together then yes its more than capable. Like i said you never see programmes on tele about how young teens raising their children good, its all chavs using them for the dosh.
Where i live i see it alot teen raising children well, As in towns close but perhaps my eyes and thoughts are stuck in stranraer.
Im not disagreeing with people here and i do agree with what your saying dylan im just trying to state a point that not all teenagers are inadequate and can raise a family.
Where i live i see it alot teen raising children well, As in towns close but perhaps my eyes and thoughts are stuck in stranraer.
Im not disagreeing with people here and i do agree with what your saying dylan im just trying to state a point that not all teenagers are inadequate and can raise a family.
dac69er
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They shouldnt as the law states the legal age for sex is 16 ( that wasnt intented to sound prickish there or stating the obv
Why should everyone be judged on the minority?
i realise that, but you dont get prosecuted for having a child at 14, but you would for driving a car at 14. you could say 16, doesnt matter.
i was just getting at the fact there is no control over who has a child or not, but there is for loads of other things.
im not picking on teenagers either. there are crack addicts on the streets that have children and they are no more capable than a teenager to care for a child.
dac69er
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there was a program that was repeated recently with a young girl on there called kizzy.
she was immature, you could see that, but she was coping well at being a mother and she was also trying to make an effort to gain qualifications and get a job. she was a bit chavvy still but she wasnt being a sponger and she was trying to progress through life rather than just float through while everyone else pays for it.
Captain Starlet
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yeah mate i see where your coming from. All i intended to start with was show that not all teenagers cant raise children which alot of one minded people in this country think.
Kelly
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Well i have to say in some people's eye's i probably fall into this bad stereo type and i contributed to the teen pregnancy count in my area. I was 17 when i had my son (a few months short of my 18th birthday) and i put up with all the frowns, the nasty remarks ppl cannot keep to themselves coz they had already judged me before they knew my circumstances.
It wasn't an ideal situation, we was living with my partners mum when the baby was born whilst house hunting at the same time. Eventually a few months later managed to find/buy a house so at the age of 18 i was a mummy and i had a mortgage! We was both working him full time me part time.
Now i have a beautiful 5 year old who has been brought up extremley well (even if i do say so myself ) and even though i dont have a 'career' and i'm kinda doing things backwards i wouldnt change it for world. Still see that look on peoples faces when they ask how old my son is and then ask how old i am though lol
It wasn't an ideal situation, we was living with my partners mum when the baby was born whilst house hunting at the same time. Eventually a few months later managed to find/buy a house so at the age of 18 i was a mummy and i had a mortgage! We was both working him full time me part time.
Now i have a beautiful 5 year old who has been brought up extremley well (even if i do say so myself
) and even though i dont have a 'career' and i'm kinda doing things backwards i wouldnt change it for world. Still see that look on peoples faces when they ask how old my son is and then ask how old i am though lol
Gryzor
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I didn't expect the amount of responses for this post but its interesting to see peoples points of view etc. Well done to Kelly for superstar mum status I know quite a few "single mothers" , one that was in my year at Uni and has a great career for herself, hat off and all.
At the moment a couple of houses are rented in our estate, and we see the full range of good and bad parents. From parents that let their 3 year olds wonder about the green to parents that are constantly watching and taking care of their kids. Its amazing how different it is to talk to kids from both sides of the fence, and no surprise that some kids don't have a chance.
Richey
I know quite a few "single mothers" , one that was in my year at Uni and has a great career for herself, hat off and all.At the moment a couple of houses are rented in our estate, and we see the full range of good and bad parents. From parents that let their 3 year olds wonder about the green to parents that are constantly watching and taking care of their kids. Its amazing how different it is to talk to kids from both sides of the fence, and no surprise that some kids don't have a chance.
Richey