Ep82 what set up you recommend for street use

Lyd_005

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Hi everyone
What setup you recommend on an ep82 , tdo4 hybrid, fuel regulator fuel pump ,frontmont intercooler? For street use

Thanks
 

dac69er

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are those parts you already have or are you asking if those parts are suitable for a street spec setup?

you want an ecu of some sorts too as that is a limiting factor unless you are going really mildly modified.
 

SKINY

Lifer
Depends how much power you want
My GT is ct9, fmic, short route air filter, decat into 3" straight through modified Nur spec system, hi/lo boost solenoid removed and running a Profec controller
Before the fmic and nur spec it dynoed at 142.2 hp, going by other similar setups local to me on the same dyno its guestimating 160ish hp now
Plenty for a tin can :)
 

starletsy

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At that hp target you need to check the engines condition even the newest Glanza V engine is over 20 years old and trying to nearly double its power everything needs to be in top condition.
 

Djaniero

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Some great advice above...especially with that Starletsy said about engine health. These engines are getting old now and its always good idea to check its health over before trying to chase higher bhp figures.

I had my stock 4efte (should have forged it on hindsight) rebuilt a couple of years ago after it spun a bearing. Its now producing a reliable 233bhp and runs great.
 

dac69er

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all depends how much you want to spend.

my personaly opinion is that a stock engine, td04 at 1.1bar is the best bang for your buck.
you can spend more, but the gains are minimal from then on. you can get a larger turbo etc etc, but then it is less usable on the street.
 

Djaniero

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What Duncan said above^^^^^^^

Td04 on stock internals (as long the engine is healthy) at 1/1.1 bar (230-240bhp) is more than enough for a street driven GT in my opinion.

Yeah you can never have too much power, but that sort of power in a light weight shell is a lively street car.
I often wonder how these GT owners with 300bhp+ cope with driving them on the roads.
 
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Calum122

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@Djaniero I'd almost disagree with the forge setup if you're looking at lower power ranges. I mean, my car let go at stock power with a forged setup. Can't help feel it would have been better on Cast internals :p

Personally now, parts are drying up becoming more expensive etc. It's better to stick closer to factory power than to chase the huge figures. I think I'm mainly worried about the gearbox and the availability of parts.

I think for street setup, Ct9 180 bhp would be ideal really.
 

Djaniero

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@Djaniero I'd almost disagree with the forge setup if you're looking at lower power ranges. I mean, my car let go at stock power with a forged setup. Can't help feel it would have been better on Cast internals :p

Personally now, parts are drying up becoming more expensive etc. It's better to stick closer to factory power than to chase the huge figures. I think I'm mainly worried about the gearbox and the availability of parts.

I think for street setup, Ct9 180 bhp would be ideal really.

Do you know what caused yours to go bang?
I think these cars get a really bad rep at times, but all the reliable ones I know of - inc. big bhp ones - have been built/tuned properly from the get go. Not saying yours wasn’t, but would be interested to know what caused it.
Another thing to consider, our version of huge figures in a startlet in the UK, totally differs to our overseas starlet Brethren’s . Many have been pushing the standard 4efte to some really impressive figures over the years.
UKS Member Socks is doing the same at the moment with his GT.

I miss the the quick spool of the ct9 at times, but after driving a ct9, ct9 hybrid and TDO4 starlet, I’d still pick the td04. I’m still yet to drive a tf035 starlet, which many say is the best compromise between the ct9 and TDO4. However since having mine mapped, I don’t find the tdO4 laggy at all for street use. Just my opinion. Everyone is different I suppose.
 

Djaniero

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@Djaniero I'd almost disagree with the forge setup if you're looking at lower power ranges. I mean, my car let go at stock power with a forged setup. Can't help feel it would have been better on Cast internals :p

Personally now, parts are drying up becoming more expensive etc. It's better to stick closer to factory power than to chase the huge figures. I think I'm mainly worried about the gearbox and the availability of parts.

I think for street setup, Ct9 180 bhp would be ideal really.

Do you know what caused yours to go bang?
I think these cars get a really bad rep at times, but all the reliable ones I know of - inc. big bhp ones - have been built/tuned properly from the get go. Not saying yours wasn’t, but would be interested to know what caused it.
Another thing to consider, our version of huge figures in a startlet in the UK, totally differs to our overseas starlet Brethren’s ;-). Many have been pushing the standard 4efte to some really impressive figures over the years.
UKS Member Socks is doing the same at the moment with his GT.

I miss the the quick spool of the ct9 at times, but after driving a ct9, ct9 hybrid and TDO4 starlet, I’d still pick the td04. I’m still yet to drive a tf035 starlet, which many say is the best compromise between the ct9 and TDO4. However since having mine mapped, I don’t find the tdO4 laggy at all for street use. Just my opinion. Everyone is different I suppose.
 

Fizturbo

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I miss the the quick spool of the ct9 at times, but after driving a ct9, ct9 hybrid and TDO4 starlet, I’d still pick the td04. I’m still yet to drive a tf035 starlet, which many say is the best compromise between the ct9 and TDO4. However since having mine mapped, I don’t find the tdO4 laggy at all for street use. Just my opinion. Everyone is different I suppose.

@Djaniero Who's mapped your starlet? Dyno graph?

Av been runin on 1bar for around 20yrs,
used ct9 and ct9b,various ct9 hybrids and now blitz k1,was tempted to go for TD12.

Second GT on td04 hybrid @1.4 bar is :cool: like day and night from td04 1bar.
On take of do Love the spool up response of the ct9 which is Awesome! at 1bar for local roads ct9 range works perfect for daily use defo fun :)

Td04 around 300bhp pointless on lacal roads...
At the moment am really enjoying the k1.
 

Djaniero

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@Djaniero Who's mapped your starlet? Dyno graph?

Av been runin on 1bar for around 20yrs,
used ct9 and ct9b,various ct9 hybrids and now blitz k1,was tempted to go for TD12.

Second GT on td04 hybrid @1.4 bar is :cool: like day and night from td04 1bar.
On take of do Love the spool up response of the ct9 which is Awesome! at 1bar for local roads ct9 range works perfect for daily use defo fun :)

Td04 around 300bhp pointless on lacal roads...
At the moment am really enjoying the k1.

TD mapped it Fiz. Will try and dig the dyno graph out when I have a minute.

As I said above...I do miss the quick spool of the ct9 at times....probably more to do with the nostalgia of my youth when I got my firsT GT and it was the fasted thing I had driven up until that point LOL.
I drove a few ct9 hybrid GTs in the past....one I remember the most was a Kitaro Hybrid which felt really quick off the mark. Although the turbo didn't last very long. I think Kitaro was actually JD (the guy who was ripping off members with hybrid turbos way back when iirc) but claimed to be a new kid on the block.

Would have loved to have turned my td04 up to 1.4 bar (I regret noT forging her when I had the engine rebuilt)....what was that like on the roads?

Is the K1 similar size /spec to the tf035 ?
 

Calum122

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@Djaniero 100% mate. I took the block to be cleaned and the engine builders could tell straight away that it wasn't built 100% to tolerance.

It's over my head, but the impression I got was that they could tell something wasn't right with the engine.
 

Djaniero

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@Calum122 - Sorry to hear that Cal. If I remember correctly the guys you bought yours from were dishonest with a few things weren't they?

I'm itching to build a 5e engine, but always manage to talk myself out of it. I do most of the work on mine myself and managed to rebuild my mx125 top end a few years back, but when it comes to building one of these Toyota engines, I would much rather give it to someone to build who is knowledgeable of them.
Luckily my engine builder is a good friend of mine and has built a good few 4e engines over the years and is meticulous at doing so.
 

Skalabala

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As said it depends on the budget and the goals.
A high compression 4EFTE with a TD04 at 200HP will be great.
Just use 5E pistons
 
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