whiteglanzav
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that shouldnt have been in a vice lol
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Kill me now :'(
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that shouldnt have been in a vice lol
ragz
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firstly i've not been online because i dont have a computer no more so am using a borrowed laptop and borrowed time
chinease mafia you make me laugh,
right lets get to the bottom of this bullshit, i am not responsible for the failure of this engine it was running in my car as my daily driver, it was running in your car, it fucked up when you came out of the m.o.t station, also how it passed M.O.T is beyond me because you stated in your threads that you were having issues with boost, also when it comes to emissions the tester has to rev the egine, so your telling me if the engine was knackerd how did it not get worse during emissions test and normally when you rev the engine if there is bearing knock it gets worse, and it still passed? if it wasnt torqued up properly i dont think it would have made it to the m.o.t and you've messaged me saying soon as you hear a knock you switched car engine off immediatley, clearly that means the engine was ok even after you installed it and something went wrong with it in your hands and after all this you somehow managed to point the finger at me claiming it wasnt built up/torqued up properly
i asked you about oil relating issues as i think that is the cause but you told me somehow you managed to give it THREE OIL CHANGES before IT WAS DRIVEN
3 oil changes before it was driven half a mile? wtf is that about?
you claim you only driven it half a mile what was that thread about your car not reaching boost
http://www.toyotagtturbo.com/forums/showthread.php?80111-Not-boosting-right&highlight=
a week and a half almost before m.o.t? that sounds like you been drving it more than half a mile and yet you claim 3 oil changes within that period
and as for the engine its been since march/april you bought it and anything could have happened between then and after all this time you now decide you want a full refund,
and could you show me where i falsely advertised it? you say i advertised it for 800miles too?
so thats over 7 months if not more since you had the engine, are you telling me you only decided to put it in this month, it seems to me your hiding something or not telling me something,
as for everyone demanding a refund for him please think about the time he has had the engine, and what may have happend in between this time,
chinease mafia you make me laugh,
right lets get to the bottom of this bullshit, i am not responsible for the failure of this engine it was running in my car as my daily driver, it was running in your car, it fucked up when you came out of the m.o.t station, also how it passed M.O.T is beyond me because you stated in your threads that you were having issues with boost, also when it comes to emissions the tester has to rev the egine, so your telling me if the engine was knackerd how did it not get worse during emissions test and normally when you rev the engine if there is bearing knock it gets worse, and it still passed? if it wasnt torqued up properly i dont think it would have made it to the m.o.t and you've messaged me saying soon as you hear a knock you switched car engine off immediatley, clearly that means the engine was ok even after you installed it and something went wrong with it in your hands and after all this you somehow managed to point the finger at me claiming it wasnt built up/torqued up properly
i asked you about oil relating issues as i think that is the cause but you told me somehow you managed to give it THREE OIL CHANGES before IT WAS DRIVEN
3 oil changes before it was driven half a mile? wtf is that about?
you claim you only driven it half a mile what was that thread about your car not reaching boost
http://www.toyotagtturbo.com/forums/showthread.php?80111-Not-boosting-right&highlight=
a week and a half almost before m.o.t? that sounds like you been drving it more than half a mile and yet you claim 3 oil changes within that period
and as for the engine its been since march/april you bought it and anything could have happened between then and after all this time you now decide you want a full refund,
and could you show me where i falsely advertised it? you say i advertised it for 800miles too?
so thats over 7 months if not more since you had the engine, are you telling me you only decided to put it in this month, it seems to me your hiding something or not telling me something,
as for everyone demanding a refund for him please think about the time he has had the engine, and what may have happend in between this time,
J25GTi
Lifer
What you don't seem to understand mate, is I drove it to the mot centre. Which is down the hill,half a mile at most. And I drove it down there a week prior to the actual mot as it needed other work doing on it. Handbrake cables, gear selectors, brake lines etc. and as stated, it wasn't the not hitting boost been the problem, I couldn't hear any turbo spool etc on the way down etc so I knew I had a leak or something similar.
Yeah oil was changed 3 times since I have had it. I don't need to drive it to change the oil lol. It was a "new" engine and I was keeping an eye on everything before I drove it. It was just general good maintenance.
See, the engine has been in my car for months, but never actually driven until a week or so ago. its been off the road since the weekend after I bought it been prepped for the swap, waiting on turbo kits etc. it was sorned with the dvla.
Car had a bonnet and tarpaulin over it at all times.
It got started once a week to keep the oil circulating etc. And it was just luck the big ends didn't go then.
And yes it was falsely advertised, as when I asked you about it you told me it had done 800 miles at a maximum and I would need to run it in etc. But then the other day you text me saying it had actually done 1500 miles? How does that add up? How do you suddenly forget 700 miles!
What about the vice marks on the pistons?
What about the rust on the buckets and bores?
That is stuff that wouldn't happened on a sealed engine full of oil...
Sorry, but who puts pistons in a vice?
And as I've said the engine has been full of oil since I bought it, it took 3 weeks after buying it to get around to fitting it due to poor weather. But as soon as it was in the car it was filled with oil.
If the bottom end was torqued correctly you wouldn't have 4 fucked big ends and scored mains. If it was oil starvation etc you would get one or two fucked caps etc.
Yeah oil was changed 3 times since I have had it. I don't need to drive it to change the oil lol. It was a "new" engine and I was keeping an eye on everything before I drove it. It was just general good maintenance.
See, the engine has been in my car for months, but never actually driven until a week or so ago. its been off the road since the weekend after I bought it been prepped for the swap, waiting on turbo kits etc. it was sorned with the dvla.
Car had a bonnet and tarpaulin over it at all times.
It got started once a week to keep the oil circulating etc. And it was just luck the big ends didn't go then.
And yes it was falsely advertised, as when I asked you about it you told me it had done 800 miles at a maximum and I would need to run it in etc. But then the other day you text me saying it had actually done 1500 miles? How does that add up? How do you suddenly forget 700 miles!
What about the vice marks on the pistons?
What about the rust on the buckets and bores?
That is stuff that wouldn't happened on a sealed engine full of oil...
Sorry, but who puts pistons in a vice?
And as I've said the engine has been full of oil since I bought it, it took 3 weeks after buying it to get around to fitting it due to poor weather. But as soon as it was in the car it was filled with oil.
If the bottom end was torqued correctly you wouldn't have 4 fucked big ends and scored mains. If it was oil starvation etc you would get one or two fucked caps etc.
J25GTi
Lifer
Text I received from ragz;
hi mate
sorry bout the inconvenience
dont mean to sound like a knob but i did around 1500 not 800 miles and not a single problem i have a vid with the engine running not a single knock can b heard as for the rebuild being done wrong, i will talk to the builder but i very much doubt it
to me it sounds like it spun bearin1 therefor restricting oil to the other 3 bearing
torque setting would also be correct as i got them from tgtt.com
hi mate
sorry bout the inconvenience
dont mean to sound like a knob but i did around 1500 not 800 miles and not a single problem i have a vid with the engine running not a single knock can b heard as for the rebuild being done wrong, i will talk to the builder but i very much doubt it
to me it sounds like it spun bearin1 therefor restricting oil to the other 3 bearing
torque setting would also be correct as i got them from tgtt.com
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whiteglanzav
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none of the above response from ragz talks about
marks on the pistons be they from a vice or otherwise,
why there is rust on the bores
why there is rust on the shims
and even if there is oil starvation to one of the bearings it doesnt then mean that the other 3 will immediatly suffer the same fate - even if it runs whilst knocking for 5 minutes or so
marks on the pistons be they from a vice or otherwise,
why there is rust on the bores
why there is rust on the shims
and even if there is oil starvation to one of the bearings it doesnt then mean that the other 3 will immediatly suffer the same fate - even if it runs whilst knocking for 5 minutes or so
churcherj
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regardless of whether it was driven, or if the MOT man "revved it" it shouldnt end up like this, engines are designed to be revd!!
the pictures of this engine explains that you clearly sold him a rust bucket piece of shit, so i dont really see how you can get out of this?
oh ye i forgot "since april anything could of happened to this engine" he obviously took the engine apart, put the pistons in a vice, and probably left the entire block outside in the rain and consequently its developed rust everywhere" great one....
i think what it comes down too is that your the one hiding something or your engine builder is, its been confirmed by many people on here that engine you sold was not fit for use
pictures can say a thousand words, how do you explain all of those issues posted above? if you come back with an intelligent response explaining the reasons then maybe you may be able to restore some credibility on here, until then i doubt many people would even touch anything you sell in the future.
the pictures of this engine explains that you clearly sold him a rust bucket piece of shit, so i dont really see how you can get out of this?
oh ye i forgot "since april anything could of happened to this engine" he obviously took the engine apart, put the pistons in a vice, and probably left the entire block outside in the rain and consequently its developed rust everywhere" great one....
i think what it comes down too is that your the one hiding something or your engine builder is, its been confirmed by many people on here that engine you sold was not fit for use
pictures can say a thousand words, how do you explain all of those issues posted above? if you come back with an intelligent response explaining the reasons then maybe you may be able to restore some credibility on here, until then i doubt many people would even touch anything you sell in the future.
whiteglanzav
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also the torque setting for the 5e weren't on here untill Kon gott them in a thread that i put up and that was after april.
so unless there is another thread with them on if he did use the 4e torque settings they wud be wrong
GTnomez
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I am not taking sides or anything so i just want to make this clear. And this judgement is made on a past experience on here from a separate party.
If it is true that it has been approximately 7 months between buying the engine and this problem occuring then its hard to actually say who fault it is. Anything could have happened in those months, im not saying it did but it 'could' have so to say Ragz is entirely at fault is not so true. I know that you (J25GTi) were waiting for parts etc but that amount of time anything is bound to happen and its really just your word against his.
The reason i say this is that it happened to me, i bought an item and did not use it as i was waiting for parts but when it came to installation the actual item was buggered and of no use. I contaced the seller and got other opinions but it just boiled down to my word against his because it was also about 6 months in between receiving it and installation.
Now down to the other parts, if im correct, the vice marks on the pistons etc did not lead to the little ends going or what ever happened right? If that is true then that is a different situation all together as it didnt cause the failure but if it did then thats also different.
Again im not taking side but just added my view from a past experience.
If it is true that it has been approximately 7 months between buying the engine and this problem occuring then its hard to actually say who fault it is. Anything could have happened in those months, im not saying it did but it 'could' have so to say Ragz is entirely at fault is not so true. I know that you (J25GTi) were waiting for parts etc but that amount of time anything is bound to happen and its really just your word against his.
The reason i say this is that it happened to me, i bought an item and did not use it as i was waiting for parts but when it came to installation the actual item was buggered and of no use. I contaced the seller and got other opinions but it just boiled down to my word against his because it was also about 6 months in between receiving it and installation.
Now down to the other parts, if im correct, the vice marks on the pistons etc did not lead to the little ends going or what ever happened right? If that is true then that is a different situation all together as it didnt cause the failure but if it did then thats also different.
Again im not taking side but just added my view from a past experience.
J25GTi
Lifer
That is true gtnomez.
But the problem is, upon strip down problems have become apparent that have been there since the construction of the engine.
I.E. Vice marks on pistons, rusty shims, rusty bores. Stulet_gtt and brad can vouch for the engine been covered and fitted. Stuie even helped me refill it with oil and fire it up after an oil change.
Rust cannot occur while an engine is full of oil, and my mechanic can vouch for the big ends been incorrectly torqued.
The rust is so deep this wouldn't have been something that has happened over a period of 6 months or so.
The rebuild consisted of a headgasket and new big ends from what I can see, and the original build never was honed etc.
All that has happened is a fucked engine has been "rebuilt" badly. A 200,000 mile engine with new headgasket and new big ends doesn't constitute a "rebuild" lol.
Especially when it hasn't been built properly.
But the problem is, upon strip down problems have become apparent that have been there since the construction of the engine.
I.E. Vice marks on pistons, rusty shims, rusty bores. Stulet_gtt and brad can vouch for the engine been covered and fitted. Stuie even helped me refill it with oil and fire it up after an oil change.
Rust cannot occur while an engine is full of oil, and my mechanic can vouch for the big ends been incorrectly torqued.
The rust is so deep this wouldn't have been something that has happened over a period of 6 months or so.
The rebuild consisted of a headgasket and new big ends from what I can see, and the original build never was honed etc.
All that has happened is a fucked engine has been "rebuilt" badly. A 200,000 mile engine with new headgasket and new big ends doesn't constitute a "rebuild" lol.
Especially when it hasn't been built properly.
The_Notorious_C_A_T
Lifer
Go on Jeremy Kyle, he'll get it sorted asap, jezza FTW!
Seriously though, hope this gets sorted, always a bad situation when it's 2 peoples words against each other.
Seriously though, hope this gets sorted, always a bad situation when it's 2 peoples words against each other.