MOT Fail

GTwayne

Member +
Cars a 1995 and the guy failed it today because it didn't have a cat and so no emissions test. It passed last year but at a different test station. Just wondered if anyone knew if the laws had changed and it was failed correctly or if it should have still been tested without a cat.

Checked the emissions on a gas analyzer and it would have passed without the cat.

Thanks.
 

danb87

South East England Area Rep
mines past 3 timnes with no cat mate, i know last time they had issues as car wasn setup, but they managed too get it through in the end. they said as it was an import it didn need one. dont know how much truth in that tho.
 

nazzurro19

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the emissions test changed august 1994 so any car after would in theory need a basic emissions test , some places do some places dont if its passed before go back to that garage
 

dac69er

Super Moderator
it doesnt actually need a cat, as long as it passes the cat emission test.

as its an import i was under the impression that if its not on the system then a basic test is all that can be carried out!?!?
 

GTwayne

Member +
It's registered with a 4efte, but they didn't even bother with the emissions test just failed it straight away for having no cat.
 

Texx

Super Moderator
If the car's declared date of first registration in Japan (should be on your log book) is before 31st July 1995 then a non cat test (CO<=3.5%, HC<=120ppm) should be carried out. If it's declared date of first registration was after 31st July 1995 then a default CAT test (Fast idle 2500-3000rpm CO<=0.3%, HC<=200ppm - Idle 450-1500rpm CO<=0.5%) should be carried out. The absence of a catalytic converter is not a valid reason for the rejection of an MOT certificate, if a post 31st July 1995 car can meet the limits of the default CAT test then it should not be failed.



The guidance can be found here:

http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/repository/7.3%20Emmissions%20-%20Spark%20Ignition%20-%20Passenger%20Cars%201992-2002.pdf
 

GTwayne

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If the car's declared date of first registration in Japan (should be on your log book) is before 31st July 1995 then a non cat test (CO<=3.5%, HC<=120ppm) should be carried out. If it's declared date of first registration was after 31st July 1995 then a default CAT test (Fast idle 2500-3000rpm CO<=0.3%, HC<=200ppm - Idle 450-1500rpm CO<=0.5%) should be carried out. The absence of a catalytic converter is not a valid reason for the rejection of an MOT certificate, if a post 31st July 1995 car can meet the limits of the default CAT test then it should not be failed.



The guidance can be found here:

http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/repository/7.3%20Emmissions%20-%20Spark%20Ignition%20-%20Passenger%20Cars%201992-2002.pdf

Thanks Texx and everyone else, this confirms what I've found out through searching.

Looks like I need to educate an mot tester or take it else where.
 
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