YaroGlanzo
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Headgasket was my problem.
Cylinder no.1 100 psi, cylinder no.2 120 :
Cylinder no.1 100 psi, cylinder no.2 120 :
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350ep70gr
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Headgasket was my problem.
Cylinder no.1 100 psi, cylinder no.2 120 :
Thats only one mafia!!
Tell as more...about the others...You need to change machine shop:shoot: and enginear:shoot: :holdit: :shoot: more than ASAP...or bad things will come again and again...:argue:
Chris
YaroGlanzo
Fresh Recruit
Hm, i forgot , you are right .
only 6000km since the last rebuild and the compression results:
no.1:100
no.2:120
no.3:155
no.4:155
Today i learned that the workshop never measured the cylinders before rebuilding :argue:, they have put cheap spare parts..
Everything tightened by hand (more?-->better! :haha: ) with no limits! :drive:
I will never visit them again, it's a miracle that i haven't still got burned into my car while driving ! :shoot: :slap:
only 6000km since the last rebuild and the compression results:
no.1:100
no.2:120
no.3:155
no.4:155
Today i learned that the workshop never measured the cylinders before rebuilding :argue:, they have put cheap spare parts..
Everything tightened by hand (more?-->better!
:haha: ) with no limits! :drive: I will never visit them again, it's a miracle that i haven't still got burned into my car while driving ! :shoot: :slap:
350ep70gr
Member +
Hm, i forgot , you are right .
only 6000km since the last rebuild and the compression results:
no.1:100
no.2:120
no.3:155
no.4:155
Today i learned that the workshop never measured the cylinders before rebuilding :argue:, they have put cheap spare parts..
Everything tightened by hand (more?-->better!
I will never visit them again, it's a miracle that i haven't still got burned into my car while driving ! :shoot: :slap:
You need a proper built mate..
buy some forgies when you can afford them and come by..You will do all by yourshelf under my supervision and you will be grand! And then you can go an open a store just next to them..and close them down in a week or so..
Chris
hey fatman got an issue maybe u cn help, i posted a thread on this too,
i changed my alloy wheels today of my other starlet turbo, took the car for a test drive to c how the car rides, luckly i wasnt doin more than 5 maybe 10 miles per hour i pressed the brakes and all of a sudden the brakes don work so i pressed them again then they worked, i have been driving the car around abit to test drive it but the brakes are okay, however now when i change gear just before i put my foot down to accelerate after changing gar i hear a tweeting noise from the back/ middle area of the car, i change gear at about 1-3 thousnd revs without boost, dont know what it can be!can anybody help me with these to problems????
i changed my alloy wheels today of my other starlet turbo, took the car for a test drive to c how the car rides, luckly i wasnt doin more than 5 maybe 10 miles per hour i pressed the brakes and all of a sudden the brakes don work so i pressed them again then they worked, i have been driving the car around abit to test drive it but the brakes are okay, however now when i change gear just before i put my foot down to accelerate after changing gar i hear a tweeting noise from the back/ middle area of the car, i change gear at about 1-3 thousnd revs without boost, dont know what it can be!can anybody help me with these to problems????
Boab
Member +
Crank Oil Seal from Toyota is £40ish. Have to take the gearbox and clutch off to get at it though...
Bob
Boab
Member +
Should be fine but check your oil levels as much as you can.
popsy09
Munster Area Rep.
i have a seal here new in packaging part number is 90311-75009
you can have it for 20 euro delivered if ya want cost me 45euro + vat
TheStarletGT
Member +
gday everyone, im new here and this is what i want to show >
cylinder 4,3,2 has 152psi whereby cylinder 1 had only 70psi. Piston removed and has cracked ring lands that fell out in two places. Im current awaiting a call from toyota for a brand new standard piston, but still use old rings.
My GT specs >
http://www.club4efte.com/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=1497
Check out this video
Intro http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uy6cVvL1KlE
Part 2- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJOr--DZOmo
cylinder 4,3,2 has 152psi whereby cylinder 1 had only 70psi. Piston removed and has cracked ring lands that fell out in two places. Im current awaiting a call from toyota for a brand new standard piston, but still use old rings.
My GT specs >
http://www.club4efte.com/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=1497
Check out this video
Intro http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uy6cVvL1KlE
Part 2- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJOr--DZOmo
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GlanzaV.Tee
Member +
this what happend to my car 2 days ago oil all over the place started but siezed due to no oil but rebuilding now lol
but rebuilding now lolTheStarletGT
Member +
As of two weeks ago, the car was finished, ill inform here how it went.
Update 101:
Engine is in brand spanking new condition. Work completed >
Cylinder head machined
Fitted brand new piston from toyota for cylinder 1, used old rings
New toyota head gasket
New toyota timing belt
New toyota cam seal
New idler pully
NIL blowby what so everrrrrrr
Engine is like brand new, if i were to place a tissue on the oil filler cap opening, the tissue will not move a mm. No steam, nothing.
Cost:
Head machining: $55
Fit brand new piston on conrod: $15
Piston: $105
Timing belt: $75
Head gasket: $80
Idler pully:$50
Cam seal:$7.50
1 conrod nut: $2
Other items:
Oil
oil filter
sealant
sand paper
=$50ish
SO YOU SEE: Why should i spend $1600+ on a front cut or get brand new pistons or rebuild for close to again $1000+. This repair costed me close to $400 in total, THATS IT. And the engine is in like brand new condition. It only required 1 new piston. Bores were fine, so why not. Its not like the rings are damaged or anything.
LISTEN UP: If you have a standard bore engine and the piston cracked, get a new one and install it. use the old rings if its still good and the engine will be like it never blew. Dont give up and just get a engine or half cut just for 1 cylinder. Its not serious as you may think. And its not worth the time and hassle in taking engine out bla bla bla. Just replace the piston with new OEM item from toyota.
Labour= FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Yes was abit time consuming, but overall, when i got all parts and head, it took me only 2 days to finish putting back to start up and drive away spec. I had to wait approx 2 days to get parts ordered from toyota and thats it.
Head gasket from toyota cost $80, a permaseal gasket costed $130, both required ordeing, so yoyota brand gasket was the obvious choice.
Update 101:
Engine is in brand spanking new condition. Work completed >
Cylinder head machined
Fitted brand new piston from toyota for cylinder 1, used old rings
New toyota head gasket
New toyota timing belt
New toyota cam seal
New idler pully
NIL blowby what so everrrrrrr
Engine is like brand new, if i were to place a tissue on the oil filler cap opening, the tissue will not move a mm. No steam, nothing.
Cost:
Head machining: $55
Fit brand new piston on conrod: $15
Piston: $105
Timing belt: $75
Head gasket: $80
Idler pully:$50
Cam seal:$7.50
1 conrod nut: $2
Other items:
Oil
oil filter
sealant
sand paper
=$50ish
SO YOU SEE: Why should i spend $1600+ on a front cut or get brand new pistons or rebuild for close to again $1000+. This repair costed me close to $400 in total, THATS IT. And the engine is in like brand new condition. It only required 1 new piston. Bores were fine, so why not. Its not like the rings are damaged or anything.
LISTEN UP: If you have a standard bore engine and the piston cracked, get a new one and install it. use the old rings if its still good and the engine will be like it never blew. Dont give up and just get a engine or half cut just for 1 cylinder. Its not serious as you may think. And its not worth the time and hassle in taking engine out bla bla bla. Just replace the piston with new OEM item from toyota.
Labour= FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Yes was abit time consuming, but overall, when i got all parts and head, it took me only 2 days to finish putting back to start up and drive away spec. I had to wait approx 2 days to get parts ordered from toyota and thats it.
Head gasket from toyota cost $80, a permaseal gasket costed $130, both required ordeing, so yoyota brand gasket was the obvious choice.
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George611
Member +
Right where to start lol.. Noticed mine starting to smoke alot so done a comp test got these results
1: 150psi 2: 150psi 3: 145psi 4: 100ish psi
thought i better take it easy til i get a run about so i did so til i thought fuck it drive it til it stops! lol was racing up lakeside sat. night pissin over some 106 gtis n thought i should stop had a quick check under the bonnet n well it was like an oil bath! made myself a home made catch tank the next day (tango bottle FTW!) driving to my mums and thats when she decided enuf was enuf lol smoke pouring out the bonnet and the exhaust n running like poo (sounded like it was firing out the exhaust!) still runnin on all cylinders tho so all was cooshtie. Got her in the garage and started rippin the front end apart to have a butchers and discovered the manifold had an epic crack down runner 3 love it! havnt got the engine apart yet but heres the current state:
- EPIC CRACK! lol
1: 150psi 2: 150psi 3: 145psi 4: 100ish psi
thought i better take it easy til i get a run about so i did so til i thought fuck it drive it til it stops! lol was racing up lakeside sat. night pissin over some 106 gtis n thought i should stop had a quick check under the bonnet n well it was like an oil bath! made myself a home made catch tank the next day (tango bottle FTW!) driving to my mums and thats when she decided enuf was enuf lol smoke pouring out the bonnet and the exhaust n running like poo (sounded like it was firing out the exhaust!) still runnin on all cylinders tho so all was cooshtie. Got her in the garage and started rippin the front end apart to have a butchers and discovered the manifold had an epic crack down runner 3
love it! havnt got the engine apart yet but heres the current state:
HYBRID
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Forgot about this thread.... some really nasty surprises... Iv got my own wee story to share:
SO the engine failiure was my fault.. i was running down the qtm on an unprepped track, she was on 3rd gear at around 8200rpms.. so i go to put in top gear... but i pull the fucking shifter slightly to the side and without any effort 2nd gear went in.. i felt like somebody threw an anchor out of the back of the car.. it was only a split second but fucking hell.. Anyways i pressed the gas to drive down back slowly... which is when i realised she was working like a box of spanners.. well or like an impreza... see which you prefare.
We put her by the side, and Mr.Pekitu diagnosed my baby as being unwell, so a tow truck was called and taken from Hal Far to Naxxar, which is where
r.Pekitu's garage resides... Anyways plugs are out, and we gave here a slightly cold compression test... (this is where my heart missed a beat... or a few :haha: ).... so the compression was as follows from 1,2,3 to 4 : 8.5, 8.5 ,8.0, 10.0 .... now since my car is a low cr engine she only produces 12bar in each cylinder of pressure... but considering the result we closed the door and called it a night, me of course swearing at myself for the stupid mistake i made.... Chris (mr.Pekitu) was not convinced at all by the test results, in fact he thought it was bullshit, and that since she was coldish the result was affected.
1.) Three days later, i meet up with chris, and reluctantly we opened her up.. first we checked the cams, shims, buckets, (from ontop to see if anything was affected)... but all we found where 2 shims which lost clearance?!!? ie the opposite of what normally happens... so we decide to leave the head as is for the engineer to see what needs to be done..
2.) Head off, pisons bare in front of us, without a scratch?! we where amazed.. nothing, not even a hint of contact.. Pistons where checked to make sure all where reaching the same tdc, to make sure the rods hadnt streched.. yet again, all fine
3.) Upon close inspection of the head gasket, chris explained that it was leaking slightly into the water chamber, which tbh we didnt even worry about as the hg had been on the car since the rebuild (47,000kms), not to forget that we closed 3 times on it, so it did more than its fair share of work... Anyways back on track... the hg wasnt enough either to be the cause...
4.) Sump off, rods n pistons out, packed to go to the engineer, block being inspected thoughouly.. but again.. we find nothing.. i ask chris to change the mains, bigh ends and thrusts since the sump is off.. he didnt like the idea as he checked a few and they where still looking brand new, just like the day we installed them 47000kms before... but in the end we changed them as well :haha:
5.) Head taken and inspected by engineer, he examined it from top to bottom, and found nothing apart from those 2 clearances.. so a mild (less than 0.01mm) skim to the head, and 2 shims resizeds... and i go to collect the head, so that we can continue assembleing the 4e as time was passing and the rwub was just around the corner..
6.) Chris gives a hardcore clean to the head (getting it like new!!! nice n shiny:rockon: ) and regindes manually all the valves, as they had a little bit of too much carbon on the seating.. which i still dont know why its being produced.
7.) Assembly begins, and before you know it she is out again, feeling better than ever!!
8.) So just one final recap, no valves where found damaged, crank, block and head where fine, rods and pistons also.. only the hg was slightly off.. All in all we changed the hg, for an identical cruise one.. (luckily keith (mr.maksar) had one in stock.. we also changed the head bolts, main, big ends and thrusts.. and gave here a good clean :haha: ..
What went wrong? what fucked up when she revved to 12500rpms.. who the fuck knows.... what we know for sure is she was cured by the good doctor... and 2 weeks after mr.pekitu was running 11s down Hal Far Raceway...
Moral of the story: When you dont see a problem, rely on your instict, do what you normally would anyways, and see step by step, sometimes, a problem comes and goes by its own, without giving us the chance to discover and analise it! hehe.. NEVER GIVE UP!
Kon
SO the engine failiure was my fault.. i was running down the qtm on an unprepped track, she was on 3rd gear at around 8200rpms.. so i go to put in top gear... but i pull the fucking shifter slightly to the side and without any effort 2nd gear went in..
i felt like somebody threw an anchor out of the back of the car.. it was only a split second but fucking hell.. Anyways i pressed the gas to drive down back slowly... which is when i realised she was working like a box of spanners.. well or like an impreza... see which you prefare.We put her by the side, and Mr.Pekitu diagnosed my baby as being unwell, so a tow truck was called and taken from Hal Far to Naxxar, which is where
r.Pekitu's garage resides... Anyways plugs are out, and we gave here a slightly cold compression test... (this is where my heart missed a beat... or a few :haha: ).... so the compression was as follows from 1,2,3 to 4 : 8.5, 8.5 ,8.0, 10.0 .... now since my car is a low cr engine she only produces 12bar in each cylinder of pressure... but considering the result we closed the door and called it a night, me of course swearing at myself for the stupid mistake i made.... Chris (mr.Pekitu) was not convinced at all by the test results, in fact he thought it was bullshit, and that since she was coldish the result was affected.
1.) Three days later, i meet up with chris, and reluctantly we opened her up.. first we checked the cams, shims, buckets, (from ontop to see if anything was affected)... but all we found where 2 shims which lost clearance?!!? ie the opposite of what normally happens... so we decide to leave the head as is for the engineer to see what needs to be done..
2.) Head off, pisons bare in front of us, without a scratch?! we where amazed.. nothing, not even a hint of contact.. Pistons where checked to make sure all where reaching the same tdc, to make sure the rods hadnt streched.. yet again, all fine
3.) Upon close inspection of the head gasket, chris explained that it was leaking slightly into the water chamber, which tbh we didnt even worry about as the hg had been on the car since the rebuild (47,000kms), not to forget that we closed 3 times on it, so it did more than its fair share of work... Anyways back on track... the hg wasnt enough either to be the cause...
4.) Sump off, rods n pistons out, packed to go to the engineer, block being inspected thoughouly.. but again.. we find nothing.. i ask chris to change the mains, bigh ends and thrusts since the sump is off.. he didnt like the idea as he checked a few and they where still looking brand new, just like the day we installed them 47000kms before... but in the end we changed them as well :haha:
5.) Head taken and inspected by engineer, he examined it from top to bottom, and found nothing apart from those 2 clearances.. so a mild (less than 0.01mm) skim to the head, and 2 shims resizeds... and i go to collect the head, so that we can continue assembleing the 4e as time was passing and the rwub was just around the corner..
6.) Chris gives a hardcore clean to the head (getting it like new!!! nice n shiny:rockon: ) and regindes manually all the valves, as they had a little bit of too much carbon on the seating.. which i still dont know why its being produced.
7.) Assembly begins, and before you know it she is out again, feeling better than ever!!
8.) So just one final recap, no valves where found damaged, crank, block and head where fine, rods and pistons also.. only the hg was slightly off.. All in all we changed the hg, for an identical cruise one.. (luckily keith (mr.maksar) had one in stock.. we also changed the head bolts, main, big ends and thrusts.. and gave here a good clean :haha: ..
What went wrong? what fucked up when she revved to 12500rpms.. who the fuck knows.... what we know for sure is she was cured by the good doctor... and 2 weeks after mr.pekitu was running 11s down Hal Far Raceway...
Moral of the story: When you dont see a problem, rely on your instict, do what you normally would anyways, and see step by step, sometimes, a problem comes and goes by its own, without giving us the chance to discover and analise it! hehe.. NEVER GIVE UP!
Kon
Forgot about this thread.... some really nasty surprises... Iv got my own wee story to share:
SO the engine failiure was my fault.. i was running down the qtm on an unprepped track, she was on 3rd gear at around 8200rpms.. so i go to put in top gear... but i pull the fucking shifter slightly to the side and without any effort 2nd gear went in..
We put her by the side, and Mr.Pekitu diagnosed my baby as being unwell, so a tow truck was called and taken from Hal Far to Naxxar, which is where
r.Pekitu's garage resides... Anyways plugs are out, and we gave here a slightly cold compression test... (this is where my heart missed a beat... or a few :haha: ).... so the compression was as follows from 1,2,3 to 4 : 8.5, 8.5 ,8.0, 10.0 .... now since my car is a low cr engine she only produces 12bar in each cylinder of pressure... but considering the result we closed the door and called it a night, me of course swearing at myself for the stupid mistake i made.... Chris (mr.Pekitu) was not convinced at all by the test results, in fact he thought it was bullshit, and that since she was coldish the result was affected.
1.) Three days later, i meet up with chris, and reluctantly we opened her up.. first we checked the cams, shims, buckets, (from ontop to see if anything was affected)... but all we found where 2 shims which lost clearance?!!? ie the opposite of what normally happens... so we decide to leave the head as is for the engineer to see what needs to be done..
2.) Head off, pisons bare in front of us, without a scratch?! we where amazed.. nothing, not even a hint of contact.. Pistons where checked to make sure all where reaching the same tdc, to make sure the rods hadnt streched.. yet again, all fine
3.) Upon close inspection of the head gasket, chris explained that it was leaking slightly into the water chamber, which tbh we didnt even worry about as the hg had been on the car since the rebuild (47,000kms), not to forget that we closed 3 times on it, so it did more than its fair share of work... Anyways back on track... the hg wasnt enough either to be the cause...
4.) Sump off, rods n pistons out, packed to go to the engineer, block being inspected thoughouly.. but again.. we find nothing.. i ask chris to change the mains, bigh ends and thrusts since the sump is off.. he didnt like the idea as he checked a few and they where still looking brand new, just like the day we installed them 47000kms before... but in the end we changed them as well :haha:
5.) Head taken and inspected by engineer, he examined it from top to bottom, and found nothing apart from those 2 clearances.. so a mild (less than 0.01mm) skim to the head, and 2 shims resizeds... and i go to collect the head, so that we can continue assembleing the 4e as time was passing and the rwub was just around the corner..
6.) Chris gives a hardcore clean to the head (getting it like new!!! nice n shiny:rockon: ) and regindes manually all the valves, as they had a little bit of too much carbon on the seating.. which i still dont know why its being produced.
7.) Assembly begins, and before you know it she is out again, feeling better than ever!!
8.) So just one final recap, no valves where found damaged, crank, block and head where fine, rods and pistons also.. only the hg was slightly off.. All in all we changed the hg, for an identical cruise one.. (luckily keith (mr.maksar) had one in stock.. we also changed the head bolts, main, big ends and thrusts.. and gave here a good clean :haha: ..
What went wrong? what fucked up when she revved to 12500rpms.. who the fuck knows.... what we know for sure is she was cured by the good doctor... and 2 weeks after mr.pekitu was running 11s down Hal Far Raceway...
Moral of the story: When you dont see a problem, rely on your instict, do what you normally would anyways, and see step by step, sometimes, a problem comes and goes by its own, without giving us the chance to discover and analise it! hehe.. NEVER GIVE UP!
Kon
same happened to me before, i hit somewhere in between 11k-12k rpm by going back to second but no damage at all
I have an ep82 completly standard except bov, intake filter,and ct12 turbo. i decided to take it for a thrash one day so i ran the tank dry and filled it 1/3 with 98 fuel and took it for a hill climb on a public road changing between 2,3 and 4 gear and then after an 1hr of crusing my way home suddenly smoking like a train burnt exhaust valves in no.2 cyclinder
any 1 know what would cause this?
any 1 know what would cause this?
JasonGlanza
Lifer
sry to hear that Hybrid!