Trading without a traders forum

GTdan

In The Closet
Why dont you make it that if you want to trade you must be VAT registered if based in the UK and equivelent in ireland. That would cut out a lot of the dodgy people and would ensure that only legal business' were being dealt with. I know some people do it on the side to make a bit of cash but if you are trading you should be paying taxes etc. Then if there were any problems, you could get the law/trading standards involved. Sounds harsh but would make the traders totally above board and keep dodgy people away.


this rules out Zisco and WEPR who are good traders......
 

Beaker

Member +
Obviously you would not rule those out as they are from aboad but they should be legal companies. BUT every UK based trader should be a LEGAL trader
 

gv1.3

Admin
we are not the revenue mate. I see where you are coming from but we simply provide space for traders to trade. This thread is not about our traders it is about people who want to shift lots of parts without being a trader.
 

HYBRID

Super Moderator <a href="http://www.toyotagtturbo.
Good to see this one let loose!

We are going to do our utmost to crack down on rogue traders.. To add a little 2p of my own, just remember how many members have been bitten by non-traders in history, 2 spring to mind.. which has resulted in many many ppl till this day still out of pocket for sales gone wrong..

call us nazis call us fucking loonies, call us what the hell youd like, end of the day we are doing our best to keep tgtt.com a safe place for members to buy & sell apart from interact, without fear of getting screwed over.

As dylan very well stated we still have some heros trying to trade behind the scenes.. if youd like to trade just drop us an email for all the staff to review..

who knows, anybody (if approved) could become the next tgtt.com trader, you dont need a multi-million dollar business ;)

kon
 

smythy75

Member +
i was bit by KITARO so its previous members that have brought the forum to this, personnally part of me says the rules are tight but good, but then a part of me says the rules are tight but will ruin things,

i got bit so i dont blame you guys!

im not one to shout about traders etc cause you can always take legal action if necessary but im still waiting on parts from the 9th of january from a trader on here, im not mentioning names but its not Toby, its still a registered trader!

I think that if you are to trade on this site the stock your selling should be stocked in the uk, not ordered when your customer orders it!

Peter
 

gv1.3

Admin
guys as per our published "rules" all sales are still final between a member and trader and have nothing to do with TGTT. We can only try to limit members exposure to dodgy traders.

Again I would like to keep this on topic... this thread is simply a reminder to people not to trade if they are not traders.


PS: if you are having an issue with a trader on the site you can let us know by emailing us at admin@toyotagtturbo.com if we dont know about an issue with a trader there is nothing we can do to assist in resolving it.
 

diamondnite

Fresh Recruit
Diamondnite

Morning there, does any one have any information on Toytuning, as trying to get in touch, but no reply, any help appreciated, Cheers John
 

speedvision

Member +
Morning there, does any one have any information on Toytuning, as trying to get in touch, but no reply, any help appreciated, Cheers John

hey mate wrong forum..they are no longer traders here for very good reasons and what u have mentioned is one of them...you can try getting onto them from their website but as far as i know u will not get anything here..you can do a search and there are some posts about them,maybe u can get a contact for them from the post. Best advice many will give u here is to stay away from them and buy elsewhere..

sam
 

Rick

Trader
After Dylan giving me a link to this thread I feel the need to give my opinion on this and a few other issues as well. Please don't think that I'm just having a bitch and wanting to cause trouble, these are just my feelings on the trader issue and the current state of TGGT.

First of all I am one of the people Dylan is referring to with regards to trading. To be clear to everyone in a open forum I am not a trader as such. I buy quite a lot of parts, mainly in the endless search for the perfect BOV and gauge and then move them on to finance the purchase of other parts again in my endless search.

I have on the request of the admin team applied for a traders forum but have been refused and have never really been given a reason why. I offered to pay the fee and to my knowledge have never had anybody unhappy when they have bought anything from me, in fact quite the opposite. The only issue I have ever had was years ago when I sold an Apexi SAFC to dac69er which turned out to be faulty. Duncan sent me a PM to tell me that it didn't work and I instantly offered him a full refund which he decided to take, he sent me the item back and I refunded his money in full with absolutely no argument.

On saying this though there are members currently on this forum which the rules don't seem to apply to. I'm not naming any names but there are people still selling items in the classified section who have already sold many more items than I ever would. If rules are rules then they should apply to all, not just a select few.

This also makes me wonder just who this forum is for these days? I am one of the longest serving members on this forum and still love coming on here even thuough I no longer own a GT. All I do is to provide a service for members of this forum to source parts which are generally quite hard to find. I have never ripped anybody off and never would. If I sell an item I accept that I am the one taking the risk of something being wrong and if somebody is unhappy with an item I sell them, I am willing to sort the problem out, not say "well it was a used item, that's the risk you take".

If the rules are there to stop people being ripped off, personally I feel that I have more than proved myself being one of the longest serving people on here and so many people who have been happy with the items I have sold. I wholeheartedly agree with the rules on how to list an item, and also that if somebody is going to sell items on here that they have to pay a fee to contribute to the cost and running of the site. That is only fair in my opinion. But with my case I'm not allowed to sell anything but even when I follow the correct procedure and am prepared to pay the relevent fee I am still not allowed to sell anything on here. Is that really in the best interest of the forum members preventing a proven good seller who generally has nice rare parts from selling anything on here?

Sometimes it seems to me that the rules are just a little too strict at times. I feel that this forum is still a great place but I feel that it was a much better place when the rules were more relaxed.

Again guys, these are just my feelings and opinions, not an excuse to have a go.

Cheers

Rick
 

spuddy

Ulster Area Rep.
It's my understanding that you only need a traders account if you selling multiple items of the same type or doing group buys.

Without knowing all the facts I do think its unfair to be told you can't sell anymore items without a traders account but also being refused a traders account.

Maybe theres plans for some sort of frequent sellers account??? I dunno.

Good luck though with getting your answers.
 

Rick

Trader
It's my understanding that you only need a traders account if you selling multiple items of the same type or doing group buys.

Without knowing all the facts I do think its unfair to be told you can't sell anymore items without a traders account but also being refused a traders account.

Maybe theres plans for some sort of frequent sellers account??? I dunno.

Good luck though with getting your answers.

Good point. What about a frequent sellers policy then admin?
 

monka

Member +
First of all I am one of the people Dylan is referring to with regards to trading. To be clear to everyone in a open forum I am not a trader as such. I buy quite a lot of parts, mainly in the endless search for the perfect BOV and gauge and then move them on to finance the purchase of other parts again in my endless search.

totally agree with that, much the same my self, i buy (used to anyway) quite a lot of things, then realise they aint what i want. so have to move them on. and yes there are a few people on here trading with out a license, (if you look around ebay quite alot, look for bargains, then when the auction has finished look here, they pop up. always a few people with the same name as well. lol
 

Jay

Admin
I certainly see a few fair and honest points raised on this one, certainly a good area of discussion given how 'interesting' it is to moderate.

I'll admit it is a rather difficult aspect of the forum to monitor and I for one would be open to a bit more feedback on the whole grey cloud that it is at the minute.

The thing is I can see changing it going one of two ways - either we heavily police it and offend people or we release the constraints and lose a few traders as a result.

In my eyes the Classifieds should be for casual sales between members. Pretty obvious that this isn't the case at the minute.

More input required so put your 2p in the slot people..

Jay
 

WallaceGlanza

Member +
As far as I see it, at the moment there certainly seems to be 3 types of people that use the classifieds;

-There's obviously the traders who offer a wealth of items which they sell to make a profit and pay for that privelege, which is ofcourse more than fair as they bring a lot to the forum.

-There's the casual sellers who sell the occasional item int he classifieds when they're upgrading, changing parts or selling up etc and just want their money back for the parts which again is obviously fair enough.

-Then there are the one's who don't have a traders status but seem to either buy bits elsewhere and sell here purely to try and make a profit or break cars to sell the parts etc These are usually people who either don't bother applying for a traders status or get rejected if they do as they don't really have much to offer becoming a proper trader.

I agree Jay that the classifieds should just be for casual sales, I'm not sure where the last group of people really fit into the classifieds section, as I say they don't offer anything extra by becoming traders, but by selling multiple items for profit - without paying like the traders do, then they're definately treading on their toes and it isn't fair on the one's who do pay...
 

www.glanza.co.uk

Super Mod (極度の調整器)
One thing to point out, is that whatever you think of the way we police the site, or the rules and regs which we use, we A) do it to protect the members, and B), it doesn't stop anyone falling outside from selling their wares on ebay!!!

Foremost though, and as Jay says, it IS a challenge to moderate the classified section, as we can only guess at who is genuine, and who is try to extract the urine. Even when we get an explanation (such as Rick's), we still can't be 100% sure that we're not being fobbed off (no insinuation Rick, just using you as an example...) with a Jackanory.

Again, as Jay says, keep your thoughts coming guys. The only way we can ever move forward is via openness and honesty, and I'm sure you all have something to say...
 
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