Hi guys.. I was just wondering if any of you could steer me in the right direction.. I'm currently forging my mk1 ep82.. the plan is to run a td04 with a ram horn manifold, up the fuelling including bigger injectors, sort the exhaust out and do something with the engine management to bring it all together.. could anyone tell me if a jam racing ecu would do me..? If not, some advice would me much appreciated Thanks
What ecu should I use..?
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Jay
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At that level a plug and play ECU isn't ideal, they cater more for the bolt-on level rather than forged, high-boost set-ups. As you go over 300bhp the horses are harder to capture so a greater emphasis is on the tune. A lazy, rich map will not make power and those ECU's usually have a lazy, rich map.. I own a few so can tell you this firsthand.
You'd be looking a fully manageable unit to squeeze the extra horses out and an experienced mapper to do it for you. The mapper is the key to which management to run. Case and point - We've all seen eManage Ultimate used on big power starlets before but nowadays technology has moved on and very few local tuners will even touch them never mind map them. Find someone who is proven and let them tell you the best options. No point buying something they have no experience with.
Please bear in mind that you can quite easily be talking four figures for a new ECU wired in and mapped to your requirements. I reckon this is one of the big reasons that long term projects are broken and parted out right at the end before they have even seen full throttle.
You'd be looking a fully manageable unit to squeeze the extra horses out and an experienced mapper to do it for you. The mapper is the key to which management to run. Case and point - We've all seen eManage Ultimate used on big power starlets before but nowadays technology has moved on and very few local tuners will even touch them never mind map them. Find someone who is proven and let them tell you the best options. No point buying something they have no experience with.
Please bear in mind that you can quite easily be talking four figures for a new ECU wired in and mapped to your requirements. I reckon this is one of the big reasons that long term projects are broken and parted out right at the end before they have even seen full throttle.
that is a lot more than i imagined but if it's something along those lines that I'll need, then that's what I'll need It'll be a while till I get to that point though so expect to see me on here for more advice lol.. thanks again
Calum122
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Yeah, not the most reputable company by all accounts.
I haven't seen many people actually run that sort of power with a reliable dyno print out.
Not saying it can't be done, but I'd expect to be dropping vast sums of money for 350 bhp. 250 is achievable on a nice budget, then it seems any more than that and it's not really the engine that's the weak point. The gearbox just starts stripping cogs at 300bhp, to which I am yet to read about a work around.
I haven't seen many people actually run that sort of power with a reliable dyno print out.
Not saying it can't be done, but I'd expect to be dropping vast sums of money for 350 bhp. 250 is achievable on a nice budget, then it seems any more than that and it's not really the engine that's the weak point. The gearbox just starts stripping cogs at 300bhp, to which I am yet to read about a work around.
SKINY
Lifer
read a lot of bad things about racetech a wee while ago.....
ECU is something I'm hopefully be getting this year, the ME221 looks good for all that i want and has been getting good reviews so far, LINK is another that has been used by a fee folk i know and they are all happy, at our local dealer g-sport cars they start from 1100£ fitted and mapped, a days dyno if i went with the ME221 is 350£ so not much between the two
ECU is something I'm hopefully be getting this year, the ME221 looks good for all that i want and has been getting good reviews so far, LINK is another that has been used by a fee folk i know and they are all happy, at our local dealer g-sport cars they start from 1100£ fitted and mapped, a days dyno if i went with the ME221 is 350£ so not much between the two
gorganl2000
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Phil
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agree with all the advice given.
id just roll back round to the fact that if you would genuinely be happy with 250 and you dont have access to a tuner then a FCD /FPR combo would get you there or thereabouts with a td04 or similar sized turbo
definitely a fairly large chunt of cash (compared to the cost of a starlet itself) to go from 250 - 350hp.
personally i wouldnt forged or go ecu for 240/250.
Phil
id just roll back round to the fact that if you would genuinely be happy with 250 and you dont have access to a tuner then a FCD /FPR combo would get you there or thereabouts with a td04 or similar sized turbo
definitely a fairly large chunt of cash (compared to the cost of a starlet itself) to go from 250 - 350hp.
personally i wouldnt forged or go ecu for 240/250.
Phil
Calum122
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Sounds like good advice, considering your Starlet was very well spec'd.