Whose done a 5E Conversion?

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gorganl2000

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honestly gee....the only disadvantage i have heard in theory is in relation to excessively high revs....due to the longer rods where a rule of thumb piston/rod speed may be exceeded

but i have not seen this happen to date on our end.....even with standard 5efhe rods some have revved to 7500 rpm .....BUT the 4e is suppose to be more rev friendly due to the shorter rods and theory says its should have a higher rev limits before the rule is broken---and this may well be the case

however, when people buy forged rods , forged pistons, uprated bearings, balanced crank, etc. and properly build the 5e (or 4e)....i think this risk might be reduced somewhat as they should now be well capable of revving into the excesses (above oem rpm)

PS -i'll try to find the extract for u

http://www.bajanchameleon.com/5efhe_project.html
from hoodey's website
 
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Gee

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gorganl2000 said:
honestly gee....the only disadvantage i have heard in theory is in relation to excessively high revs....due to the longer rods where a rule of thumb piston/rod speed may be exceeded

but i have not seen this happen to date on our end.....even with standard 5efhe rods some have revved to 7500 rpm .....BUT the 4e is suppose to be more rev friendly due to the shorter rods and theory says its should have a higher rev limits before the rule is broken---and this may well be the case

however, when people buy forged rods , forged pistons, uprated bearings, balanced crank, etc. and properly build the 5e (or 4e)....i think this risk might be reduced somewhat as they should now be well capable of revving into the excesses (above oem rpm)

PS -i'll try to find the extract for u

http://www.bajanchameleon.com/5efhe_project.html
from hoodey's website
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Hmm..I see. I might consider a 5E build in the future.
 
CosmicBoy

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joshuaboy said:
Whats wrong with the 5E flywheel? We used a 5E Flywheel on one we did here recently. Only problem we have now is no one makes a Twin Disc Clutch for the 5E.
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Here is the toyota part no. for the 3ee flywheel

this flywheel bolts straight onto the 5E crank, but allows you to use a 4E-FTE clutch

problem solved

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(Toyota 13405-11051)
 
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tersplat

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tercels ftmfw. thats great info, so when i destroy this clutch i can get the ACT or Competition clutch and still be able to use it once i get the 5efte built. thanks for the useful info.
 
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Arbate

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thx for all the information guys, i am from jakarta indonesia and i almost done finishing the 5e conversion.. i done it with only with 1 mechanic that i always trust and do it at my second home near sentul international circuit, it took alot of patient because in indonesia there only sold the carburator version, so i almost have to order all the parts from japan, i was runing in 4e with 175 bhp on engine at 1 bar boost spike, and put some nitrous 35hp shot to gain 250bhp, i was surprise bu then later on i found out that turbo car can almost dobble up the bhp of the nitrous it self

it turn realy good when i win 14 sec class for year 2007 season until my almost stock 4e has to give up, it bend the 3rd conrod and crack 4th piston, maybe because i was runing in standard manifold and turbo with nitrous too much... :(

because of that i'm currently building the 5e block to gain more power.. i will post the picture later on.. i hope it will run fine.. :drive:
 
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Arbate

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thx for all the information guys, i am from jakarta indonesia and i almost done finishing the 5e conversion.. i done it with only with 1 mechanic that i always trust and do it at my second home near sentul international circuit, it took alot of patient because in indonesia there only sold the carburator version, so i almost have to order all the parts from japan, i was runing in 4e with 175 bhp on engine at 1 bar boost spike, and put some nitrous 35hp shot to gain 250bhp, i was surprise bu then later on i found out that turbo car can almost dobble up the bhp of the nitrous it self

it turn realy good when i win 14 sec class for year 2007 season until my almost stock 4e has to give up, it bend the 3rd conrod and crack 4th piston, maybe because i was runing in standard manifold and turbo with nitrous too much... :(

because of that i'm currently building the 5e block to gain more power.. i will post the picture later on.. i hope it will run fine.. :drive:
 
ramses974

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for information the 5EFE ECU will never be better thant the 4EFTE ecu....
i hve already experienced the 5EFE ECU +emanage on a T4with big injectors etc from BYP ...my car on 5efe engine with 5EFE ECU is not equal to my 4EFTE with 4EFTE ECU ...the 4EFTE ECU is the better option to run correctly on a 5e or 4e engine with turbo ...
 
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DA VINCI

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I am currently running a 5efte however the engine needs rebuild as it rattles (crankshaft busted). I have a spare 5e block,3e rods and ross forged pistons, toga bearings, Toga HV oil pumps, speedvission hybrid for a rebuilt. Can someone advice where i can get a spare crankshaft and a 3e flywheel?:confused:
 
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gorganl2000

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ramses974 said:
for information the 5EFE ECU will never be better thant the 4EFTE ecu....
i hve already experienced the 5EFE ECU +emanage on a T4with big injectors etc from BYP ...my car on 5efe engine with 5EFE ECU is not equal to my 4EFTE with 4EFTE ECU ...the 4EFTE ECU is the better option to run correctly on a 5e or 4e engine with turbo ...
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i agree the 4efte ecu is the better option for boost aplpications...as its built for it...........the 5e ecu can work, but the tuner MAY have alot more work to do to get things right
 
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gedis

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lads just thinking of the sumps and oil pickups on 4e and 5e. i read you have to use 4e pickup with 4e sump but 5e and 4e sump looks same from link on here(apart from bafle) so can i use 5e oil pickup with 4e sump?
 
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gorganl2000

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ian said:
Will the 4efte ecu run a 5e conversion ok on a standard ct9 setup ?
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i know several people who have ran a LC 5efte (using 4efte pistons in a 5e), 4efte injectors with a ct9 turbo on the 4efte ecu without issues for a LONG TIME .....boosting up to 10psi daily on the oem TMIC

i assume more boost could be run,,,,but the ct9 is a crappy turbo for the 5e, so makes little sense turning up the boost any higher

and if u feel cautious about fuel, just throw in a bigger fuel pump or use soem 315cc injectors
 
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