Garrett T series turbos . . Info input please
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turbospool@1krpm
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Hi,
Sounds good. Yours is the smaller of the T3 variants and yes I can imagine it will be responsive. What engine mods do you have? And where you get yours?
turbospool@1krpm
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Theres plenty of trims of Garrett turbos mate. Commonly used on 4efte are ones from Cossies and Nissans. Its hard finding the right one, lots to consider and depends what you want from your car. Power wise a Garrett T3 as mentioned for example like Bimboy will out do a Hybrid CT9 my quite a while.
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hoochhenry
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My car is stock, just a small port match job on the intake side. However i would be going 5e in a week or two, because I want more torque.
Don't think i am being rude but why do you guys have to get a turbo from a cossy or from a wrx, gsr, it is more expensive to buy a new factory spec turbo than a custom spec t3. There is no disputing that a t3 is cheaper and although u guys may argue that you can get them 2nd hand for a 100 quid why risk putting up to fail in a week or two.
What is funny only the cossy has a factory spec t series turbo that is suitable for our cars that is why you guys don't like them or have allot of them. IHI produces better turbo than mitsubishi to me also does KKK I see a few IHI turbo and KKKs but everything is td04 here, come on guys, it is not a issue of trying to re-invent the wheel, but doing your own thing. That is what makes us individuals and makes cars fun and competitive not like the recipe td04 on 1.1 bar or td04 1.2 or 1.4 bar with 440cc injectors and a emanage that makes this amount and that amount of bhp, we could as well all drive honda civics.
and bake bread with all the recipes
Don't think i am being rude but why do you guys have to get a turbo from a cossy or from a wrx, gsr, it is more expensive to buy a new factory spec turbo than a custom spec t3. There is no disputing that a t3 is cheaper and although u guys may argue that you can get them 2nd hand for a 100 quid why risk putting up to fail in a week or two.
What is funny only the cossy has a factory spec t series turbo that is suitable for our cars that is why you guys don't like them or have allot of them. IHI produces better turbo than mitsubishi to me also does KKK I see a few IHI turbo and KKKs but everything is td04 here, come on guys, it is not a issue of trying to re-invent the wheel, but doing your own thing. That is what makes us individuals and makes cars fun and competitive not like the recipe td04 on 1.1 bar or td04 1.2 or 1.4 bar with 440cc injectors and a emanage that makes this amount and that amount of bhp, we could as well all drive honda civics.
and bake bread with all the recipes
ragz
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My car is stock, just a small port match job on the intake side. However i would be going 5e in a week or two, because I want more torque.
Don't think i am being rude but why do you guys have to get a turbo from a cossy or from a wrx, gsr, it is more expensive to buy a new factory spec turbo than a custom spec t3. There is no disputing that a t3 is cheaper and although u guys may argue that you can get them 2nd hand for a 100 quid why risk putting up to fail in a week or two.
What is funny only the cossy has a factory spec t series turbo that is suitable for our cars that is why you guys don't like them or have allot of them. IHI produces better turbo than mitsubishi to me also does KKK I see a few IHI turbo and KKKs but everything is td04 here, come on guys, it is not a issue of trying to re-invent the wheel, but doing your own thing. That is what makes us individuals and makes cars fun and competitive not like the recipe td04 on 1.1 bar or td04 1.2 or 1.4 bar with 440cc injectors and a emanage that makes this amount and that amount of bhp, we could as well all drive honda civics.
hardcoreep
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You need to come to Jamaica.
All the top cars are MHI units including the one that ran 10.9. Out of the top five hp cars, only one is a Garrett. Out of the top five drag times, only one is a Garrett. The two fastest circuit EPs are MHI.
The common turbo here is the tdo4l because people were tired of the faulty Garretts, and sub-standard street performance. My friend just trashed his on his Civic after two weeks. The best thing about them is that you pick one up anywhere for next to nothing, but u get what you pay for.
If you look at the JDM EPs they all avoid anything but the exotic GT Garretts.
turbospool@1krpm
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@ hardcoreep = Thanks for the input mate. I didnt think MHI turbo's werent capable, its just that never found any info like you've given above on them. Again the thing is choosing the variant / trim of the turbo suited to the 4efte. Im still searching into " what turbo " so once again thanks as im looking into the MHI & IHI units again
If you go on wheelsjamaica most of you buy used turbos and strive to achieve your goals the cheapest way possible, nothing is wrong with that I do it in some ways, but at the same time be fair if 15 out of 20 people have td04 and most of you say mitsubishi turbo mistsubishi turbo obviously most of the faster cars will have on a mitsu. unit. so that argument is void. I live in the caribbean too and I know that it is safer to get a used td04 than a used garrett because the garrett is often older hence greater failure. And you guys don't spec anything you don't play with turbo wheels and housings so do not even talk about power band and all that jazz. and as far as I know on wheels the highest powered 4efte has on a garrett. And there was a big argument about his dyno sheet and in the car world more hp the better.:drive:
Get a nice garrett.
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why nissan guys don't complain about garretts, all over the world garretts are good, and only jamaicans complain. Answer me that, I had 4 nissans before my starlet 2 turbo charged, I have endless friends with sr20s they do not complain, so I know what I am talking about. Do you? or are you just going on hear say.
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correction.. if u have the money invest in a Greddy unit... then u can say its the way forward
starlet666
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trust and hks turbos are garretts though..... just re specd wheels... the rest is still a garrett unit in theory
hardcoreep
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Puffy and Spi run MHI. Those are the two fastest Starlets in Jamaica.
I don't know what Puffy's powerfigures are, but Spi used a MHI to make the what is pretty much believed to be the highest whp.
The second car was from montego bay via Japan.
The third was a 5E mini swap from Max
The fourth was posted here way back from a IhI
The fifth was another MHI
All five are 5E engines
Both the highest 4E figures (1st/2nd), until recently were by a K24 and a MHI. That record stood until last year surpassed finally by a Garrett.
Starlet tuning in Jamaica isn't new. We've been through the Garrett phase. There was a time when everyone was running a Garrett. It wasn't until people started seeing the better performance of the MHIs that people converted. As for cost, Garretts are still cheaper than MHI units. You can basically go to any junkyard and find a Garrett. The only expensive Garretts are the new GT series, which cost the same as the average MHI, and HKS units which are just Garrett in name only.
hardcoreep
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Who told you Nissan guys don't complain about Garretts. How many high horsepower Nissans use pure Garretts. They are either using spec'd units or different turbochargers. The common upgrade in Japan/Australia is to get rid of the ceramic wheels and use steel ones. In the US its a swap to the 'disco potato'. In the UK its a GT series or HKS units. I've never seen a high horsepower car with an off the shelf Garrett. Its always some secret custom spec that you couldn't order from Garrett itself.
Just like how you have 'friends' that seeming don't have problems with them, I've got five that have made the swap to a different brand. My friend drifts using a GT series and it broke within a month of me saying it would.
I have seen Garretts break brand new out of the box after 5 dyno pulls.
I have seen Garretts spit their exhaust blades out of an exhaust (and that was on tape)
I have compared back to back runs of Garretts vs MHI several times.
Ask anyone in Jamaica which is the smokiest turbocharger, Garrett
The best thing I can say about a Garrett is that when it breaks it takes chip money to repair. The few people I know that don't have problems with them are either not running serious power figures or have unique units for their setup.
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hoochhenry
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ya the subaru ones are the strongest never any real problems with these cheap as f**k and do a great job on the toyota starlets ,better still if you had it n a 1.5 no stopping the power fast spool ups lots of power too beat the compition:drive:
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hks yes... trust no..
trust use mhi units.. then when they go over onto the t series hybrids.. they mate garrett housings with mhi units..
kon
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amen to that!! :teach: