another vid me against Golf with audi tt engine

[Dan3SGTE]

Thats a daft statement.
You need the engine to create gasses for the turbo to work. You understand this im sure.
So the statement you made is pants.

I do understand what your saying though, but take the turbo off any turbo charged car, and see what there like inc your 2ltr 3sgte.

But i agree, even my 3sgte. Im not impressed with what the engine can do, i just think its great what putting a large engine in a tiny car can do.

I dont think its a daft statement at all, as thats my point, a 4E is NO exception. Its not crazy what the 4E can do as soo many other engines will do similar.

The ONLY reason why his car is quick is because it ways fuck all and had a decent amount of power due to the TURBO. Any bloody 1.3 16valve engine will produce enough gasses to spool a turbo up(especially the size of a CT9)

With appropriate internals to suit turbo applications that is.

 

[Ted]

But i agree, even my 3sgte. Im not impressed with what the engine can do, i just think its great what putting a large engine in a tiny car can do.

I dont think its a daft statement at all, as thats my point, a 4E is NO exception. Its not crazy what the 4E can do as soo many other engines will do similar.

The ONLY reason why his car is quick is because it ways fuck all and had a decent amount of power due to the TURBO. Any bloody 1.3 16valve engine will produce enough gasses to spool a turbo up(especially the size of a CT9)

With appropriate internals to suit turbo applications that is.

according to a few different sources it weighs 30kg less than a mk1 gt so should be about the same with the turbo engine fitted. bout 830kg. so with a ct9 at a bar it could maybe do a 14 flat with a good start.

 

[Dan3SGTE]

according to a few different sources it weighs 30kg less than a mk1 gt so should be about the same with the turbo engine fitted. bout 830kg. so with a ct9 at a bar it could maybe do a 14 flat with a good start.

yeah, starlets are also quick though arent they. They are also very light.

 

[Rory]

Dan
I stand by my comment as the engine is a pump for the turbo.
If the engine has no efficiency then even a little turbo will not work
An engine has to be efficient, in order for any turbo to work well.
Understand what im saying here?
The turbo is part of the package, as is the engine

Give me another 1.3 or small capacity engine(or similar engine as you put it) that will give you the same power, and the same reliability at say 250 bhp?
The 4e engine is a cracker for what it is.

 

[Dan3SGTE]

Dan
I stand by my comment as the engine is a pump for the turbo.
If the engine has no efficiency then even a little turbo will not work
An engine has to be efficient, in order for any turbo to work well.
Understand what im saying here?
The turbo is part of the package, as is the engine

Give me another 1.3 or small capacity engine(or similar engine as you put it) that will give you the same power, and the same reliability at say 250 bhp?
The 4e engine is a cracker for what it is.

i understand your comment completely about the engine has to aid the turbo, thats a fact,

1 of the engines in mind is from the swift GTI, great engines, with superb reliability even when turbod.....

saying that, my comment wasnt ragarding reliability what so ever, souly on the fact of the power output and speed it can carry out.

Put any small turbod engine in a car that weighs nothing and it will go fast.

An engine is about materials used/components/compression........ Its mecahnical. strip down any engine of a similar cc/stroke/bore and rebuild for a particular application and what does the 4E have that, that engine wont?

what the 4E has over the common R5,Uno,punto is that is already has 8 more valves to start off with so thats not a fair comparison. And the reliabilty/build quality.

Fiat + Renault.......... doesnt say much really.......

Im not putting the 4E down by no means, im just stating what i believe.

 

[Ted]

go the 4e. when what car etc first published reliability findings in the mid 90s no 1 and 2 in the chart was the corolla and starlet. the starlet obviously only had the 1.3 4efe and most corollas sold were 1.3 4efe. this was when people stared realising toyotas werent just good, they were the best. this reputation was made possible by the 4e.

 

[gv1.3]

no times again always cuting the times out i think your full of it lad

i can see it now ,,,,i raced a 5.0 mustang and guess what you WIN,,WHAT BULL

banned for spamming. You just will not learn.

 

[Dan3SGTE]

dylan,

If you feel my posts are a little off feel free to delete,

However i do feel its quite an interesting topic

 

[gv1.3]

Dan its easy to say that the turbo is doing all of the work but not every 1.3 engine can take relatively high levels of boost and survive. The engine in these cars is well engineered.

If the engine is not doing any work and its the turbo that produces the power why dont we throw away our engines and just put two turbos in the engine bay lol

 

[Sheldon]

don't worry lads... i think there is a RWYB on the 7th march so we will get some times hopefully of the aygo

 

[Sheldon]

sry for the wrong title on youtube

 

[Rory]

G13B is a cracker of an engine, i agree there.

You have contradicted yourself with the reliability comment?? It isnt then it is part of the conversation?

Yes you can build any engine to take alot, but the engine in nexia's car is standard, so that throws that out the window.

The 4e is light years ahead of its counter parts, ie Fiat and Renault.

So you believe that the 4e isnt a good engine in standard form?

i understand your comment completely about the engine has to aid the turbo, thats a fact,

1 of the engines in mind is from the swift GTI, great engines, with superb reliability even when turbod.....

saying that, my comment wasnt ragarding reliability what so ever, souly on the fact of the power output and speed it can carry out.

Put any small turbod engine in a car that weighs nothing and it will go fast.

An engine is about materials used/components/compression........ Its mecahnical. strip down any engine of a similar cc/stroke/bore and rebuild for a particular application and what does the 4E have that, that engine wont?

what the 4E has over the common R5,Uno,punto is that is already has 8 more valves to start off with so thats not a fair comparison. And the reliabilty/build quality.

Fiat + Renault.......... doesnt say much really.......

Im not putting the 4E down by no means, im just stating what i believe.

 

[Sheldon]

is there any other 1300cc engines that take the power these engines take? PLUS still reliable...

 

[Dan3SGTE]

G13B is a cracker of an engine, i agree there.

You have contradicted yourself with the reliability comment?? It isnt then it is part of the conversation?

Yes you can build any engine to take alot, but the engine in nexia's car is standard, so that throws that out the window.

The 4e is light years ahead of its counter parts, ie Fiat and Renault.

So you believe that the 4e isnt a good engine in standard form?

I didnt contradict myself, I first anwsered your question saying the swift GTI engine was reliable, then i said, "saying that, thats not what the conversation was about"

Now, if we are talkin in complete stock form then it is great and can put out some serious results maintaining reliability(if thats what your asking) It was made in such a way for easy/realiable tuning.

I think we are both talking about two dfferent things. I know what im trying to say but i dont think you do(know what im trying to say)....

 

[Rory]

This is what i meant in regards to the reliability part.. See below

Yep in standard form, as modified engines cant be compared, you know that (i hope )

Im talking about the 4e engine, are you?

saying that, my comment wasnt ragarding reliability what so ever, souly on the fact of the power output and speed it can carry out.

what the 4E has over the common R5,Uno,punto is that is already has 8 more valves to start off with so thats not a fair comparison. And the reliabilty/build quality.

 

[Killamats]

you never stop Ivan, give them guys a break

 

[Sheldon]

you never stop Ivan, give them guys a break

LMAO! its fun dude

 

[Dan3SGTE]

This is what i meant in regards to the reliability part.. See below

Yep in standard form, as modified engines cant be compared, you know that (i hope )

Im talking about the 4e engine, are you?

rory,

It was nice chatting and that but i think its time to call it a night :beer:

 

[Killamats]

go the 4e. when what car etc first published reliability findings in the mid 90s no 1 and 2 in the chart was the corolla and starlet. the starlet obviously only had the 1.3 4efe and most corollas sold were 1.3 4efe. this was when people stared realising toyotas werent just good, they were the best. this reputation was made possible by the 4e.

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