any one done a 3sgte conversion

[GTnomez]

To be 100% honest, dont bother, cos i beat a GT4 with my monster Street Starlet GT with easy, LITERALLY.


After experiencing that moment, i have no faith with any 3SGTE conversions. Waste of time in my books. If my GT can beat one, whats the point of fitting an engine like that to my GT. Just remember, my starlet is pretty well modified.


I have another engine which i'm considering installing in my GT, and it should be good for around 500HP.

Many LULZ

 

[J25GTi]

Depends what you want really... 5e or no E

Lol dude there clearly is replacement for displacement or starlets would be shit at 1.3 litres

 

[durmz]

lol, im rocking 1.8 vtak powa these days

 

[OmarE]

Displacement is a cheap or sometimes the cheapest method to get big "reliable" HPs so I agree with J25GTI but the 3sgte in a starlet might break the bank as alot of unexpected problems/issues will arise during the fitting. Then traction will be next issue.

Lastly I have to ask, TheStarletGT what is the engine spec that will handle 500hp you are considering? 4e or 5e?

 

[Starlet_Sam]

There's still a replacement for it. A more fun replacement.

 

[lingl9z]

deano v2.

 

[Dan3SGTE]

I dont really use forums much any more but why is it there is always one complete wacko on here... Its literally one after another. Every time i come on here there is an idiot posting.

There isnt replacement for displacement... You can add displacement characteristics with a screw type supercharger but displacement in itself is really the greatest aspect of an engine... It will always have an advantage in every possible way apart from weight. add displacement to any engine and it will perform better from every angle. Fact.

 

[Starlet_Sam]

Well that's a matter of opinion really. N/A characteristics bore the hell out of me, I like the kick up the arse so I'd have to disagree with you. Fact is, I can gain extre power and torque by adding a turbo, a supercharger or NOS and each will replace the need for extra displacement.

 

[Dan3SGTE]

The "need" for extra displacement or actually replacing it to give the same benefit, and i mean the exact same benefit....?

A turbo wont replace it but a screw type charger will give you that N/A feel and in fact give a power curve pretty much of an N/A engine, building boost instantly and consistent throughout. EDIT: i.e giving the feel of a larger engine/more displacement.

You cant disagree because i wasnt giving an opinion, i was giving a fact. I didnt state preferences i stated that more displacement will be better(perform better) at every angle) on the same engine.

Im not sure why you mentioned that N/A engines bored you? That hasnt got anything to do with what i said.

 

[Starlet_Sam]

Every angle? No way, not peak power. Not even necessarilly drivability. A coldside supercharger will give near instant response for example. For it to be better in every way you first need to show that an N/A engine is the best, which comes down to preference.

 

[Dan3SGTE]

add more displacement to an engine and it will have more peak power.. In fact it will have more power throughout the whole rev range if the only thing added to an engine was displacement and nothing else. Drivability is an opinion, i dont know how a little more power throughout and more low end grunt(where it matters for drivability) would make it less drivable, but still, an opinion none the less.

Im not saying N/A is best, im saying the only way to replace displacement or to give a characteristic of more displacement on a particular engine would be to install a screw type charge. If you have a turbo charged engine, and you added displacement to that engine it will perform better at every rev and have less lag, give you more power everywhere in the rev range including peak.

 

[OmarE]

NOS, Supercharger, Bigger Turbo will add power but reliable will go through the window as there are more moving parts and more things to go wrong. Yes, a great tuner/MAP and high quality parts will reduce the likelihood of some thing going wrong but the above fact still remains.

Question: What do you guys go 5E or increase the bore of the engine? Answer: Displacement. If done right, it is a reliable technique of increasing torque and hp at a cheap cost as compared to running a more aggressive map on a bigger turbo.

@antone82afsar The 3SGTE has been done in my area a couple of times in Starlets and Corollas but chassis strengthening had to done (as I believe Dan3SGTE had to do as the 3SGTE is significantly heavily) and traction was a big issue for the fast road. Depending on the car the engine comes from you have to ensure that you get the correct gearbox for the FWD but Dan3SGTE can correct me if I have said anything wrong.

 

[Starlet_Sam]

add more displacement to an engine and it will have more peak power.. In fact it will have more power throughout the whole rev range if the only thing added to an engine was displacement and nothing else. Drivability is an opinion, i dont know how a little more power throughout and more low end grunt(where it matters for drivability) would make it less drivable, but still, an opinion none the less.

Im not saying N/A is best, im saying the only way to replace displacement or to give a characteristic of more displacement on a particular engine would be to install a screw type charge. If you have a turbo charged engine, and you added displacement to that engine it will perform better at every rev and have less lag, give you more power everywhere in the rev range including peak.

Yeah, but then you take that bigger engine and put a turbo on it and it'll hae the same low end and more top end. It's the sort of thing that goes in circles, keep adding more displacement then a turbo or supercharger, then more displacement etc. Fact is, they are replacements.