Basic brake system operation and upgrade theory

Keri-WMS

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This is an article I put together for the E30Zone wiki, covering the basics of brake system operation and upgrades. It's not relating to any car maker, or part manufacturer, I'm putting it here in case it's good enough as an overview to go in the "Awesomely Helpful Info Section" - I'm happy to waive any copyright I have over the following text if it'll help people here with the background info as long as it's not edited or reproduced outside the TGTT site, if it's not a help feel free to delete it (mods).

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Basic checks:
First off, ensure the callipers are in full working order (no sticking pistons, seals etc) and the brakes hoses are in good condition before embarking on any upgrade. Also check the servo is working properly if fitted (a duff servo normally gives you a hard pedal with a lack of braking force) and that the master cylinder seals are good (leaking seals give you a soft pedal, often slowly "sinking" if held under pressure).




What can be improved?
There are a lot of closely interrelated aspects surrounding brake system operation, many areas can be improved but at the expense of another area. This makes everything a compromise, here are the aspects with their effects on performance etc:


Brake "power"

ie torque at the wheel for a given brake fluid pressure. This can be improved in several ways:

1 - Larger discs, this in effect increases the leverage that acts on the wheel. Downsides are increased unsprung mass (and rotational mass due to the larger diameter), a slight increase in cost if it's a re-drilled one-piece disc or a larger increase in cost if it's alloy bells and rotors.

2 - Higher coefficient of friction in the pad material. Downsides are that in most performance pads they work better when warm/hot, and full race pads hardly work at all when cold, plus increased cost.

3 - Larger pistons in the caliper (and/or smaller master cylinder piston/s). This increases the mechanical advantage that the system gives your foot over the force applied to the back of the pads, but like all forms of increased leverage the longer the "lever" the longer the travel needed at the input end. In the case of brakes, the added clamping force at the pad is offset by a longer travel / softer pedal.


Unsprung mass,

This is the effect of the mass of the brakes fitted to the strut, where they are not properly "sprung and damped" by the suspension like the chassis is. The lighter a brake system is, the faster and more controlled the suspension action can be, giving the car more grip. The downsides to lighter brake discs, is that they heat up faster due to the lower "thermal mass", but lighter calipers, pads, alloy bells and mounting brackets all give you "free grip".


Rotational mass

The lighter and smaller the brake disc (and wheel/tyre/hub etc) the less energy is needed to spin it faster or slow it down. So a lighter and smaller brake disc will give the car better acceleration, economy and braking (if the brakes magically still worked just the same!). The downsides are reduced brake power, reduced cooling from the smaller disc vents and reduced thermal mass.


Fade (pad) resistance

This is the amount of heat the brake pads can withstand before they overheat into "brake fade", this feels like you have a hard pedal but no brake power (similar to a failed servo). In the olden days pads used to "gas", where the glue in the material boiled and producing a thin layer of high pressure gas that lifted the pad off the disc using the same principles as a hovercraft uses! This lead to people drilling (and grooving) their discs to release this gas. Modern brake materials no longer gas in anything like the same way, so drilled discs are of FAR less use than they used to, and given that they can crack the main reason people buy them is for the "look". Grooved discs DO still have a place as they scrub at the face of the pads, and with many race pads they are needed to stop the pad surface "glazing".


Fade (fluid) resistance

This is the amount of heat the brakes can withstand without the fluid boiling, when the fluid boils the bubbles created are easily squashed by the pressure created when the pedal is pressed, making the pedal sink straight to the floor and allying almost no pressure to the pads at all! This is probably the most dangerous form of brake problem and for the few seconds it happens the effect is as bad as a burst brake line. Fluid boiling can be reduced by:

1 - Running a fluid with a higher boiling point.

2 - Changing the fluid regularly as water is absorbed by most brake fluids, and of course only needs 100 degrees C to boil. Also once brake fluid HAS boiled it's resistance to boiling is actually reduced, and next time it will boil at a LOWER temperature!

3 - Using cooling air from the brake duct to cool the caliper.

4 - Using cooling air from the brake duct to cool a brake fluid radiator.

5 - Running a brake fluid recirculating valve. This clever gadget cycles the fluid into the caliper then back out and up into the main fluid reservoir, this keeps the caliper cooler and stops a stagnant volume of fluid from sitting in the caliper and getting very hot.


Heat reduction

This is mainly about keeping the disc cool to stop it "warping" and keep the pads cooler so they can operate properly. You can reduce disc temperatures by:

1 - Having a larger disc with bigger, more efficient vents and larger area to be cooled, the downside is added unsprung/rotational mass (although mass helps in another way, next....).

2 - Having a heavier disc, this provides more "thermal mass". Thermal mass works because it takes twice as much energy to heat twice as much mass to a given temperature, so if you double the mass while keeping the energy input constant you HALVE the temperature (before cooling efficiency etc starts to come into play). The downside is added unsprung/rotational mass.


Disc "warping" resistance

It should be noted that brake discs juddering through the pedal are not "warped" in the way many people think, in most cases it's because road pads (which are abrasive) have been overheated and a high-spot has formed. This high spot gets VERY hot and into a changes into a different and much harder form of iron. Of course the new hard area is more resistant to the pad's abrasion and so as the material around it is worn away it becomes higher, which makes it hotter, and therefore even harder....and so on. The discs DO warp, but only when you press the pedal and this one high spot gets much hotter, rapidly expanding and warping the disc. The things people miss are that (1) the disc returns to a mostly non-warped state as soon as you back off the brakes or take the disc off the car for inspection, and (2) machining the disc won't fix it as there is still a hard spot in the iron waiting to start the whole process again once the abrasion or use continues! Upgrade pads often work by "smearing" their own pad material onto the disc rather than abrading the disc, thereby dodging the high-spot vicious cycle.


Resistance to high temperatures by all components in a performance/race application

If you assume that the brake system will be used and a hard and sustained way (trackdays etc) then the components ARE going to get very hot no matter what cooling you use, but there are ways to allow them to survive the temperatures and work very effectively for a sustained period.

- External piston dust seals on performance calipers often burn off, but they can be omitted without causing any problems in most cases.

- Brake discs get very hot in the area that's in contact with the pads and expend with huge force. In a one-piece disc this makes the disc form cone-shape as the vented "rotor" part expands but the "bell" part stays cooler and unchanged, in (very rare) extreme cases the vented part can crack right off the bell! To reduce these forces there are two options, (1) fit an iron rotor to an aluminium bell (aluminium expends faster with temperature than iron, so the cooler bell partly "keeps up" with the hotter rotor as it expands) and (2) fitting a "radially floating rotor (there are radial slots in the rotor or the bell with sliding "bobbins" in them, this allows the rotor to expand totally freely, with no force applied to the bell)! Floating rotors are very expensive though and are almost exclusively for race-cars only - although BMW have recently used the principle on the M3, the discs have aluminium bells with radial spoke-like pegs, and the cast-iron rotor "floats" on these pegs! Also large light-weight rotors rely less on the effects of thermal mass, and more on effective cooling vents to cool the brakes on each straight section of track.

- Race pads will continue to work happily way after normal pads would have totally failed, and often get better the more abuse they get, and race brake fluid can withstand the continued high temperatures.

- Brake ducts are very handy as the high speeds on the straight pump much more cooling air into the brakes than on a road car.
 

MeisterR

Lifer
Thats a pretty good overview on a brake system.

The easiest way to improve a brake system is using a larger disk.
This is because the rest of the system can be left operating normally with no downside...

Changing the pad mean you need to heat the pad up.
Changing the calipers with bigger piston mean you need more hydraulic pressure
Changing the disk will give an improvement everywhere plus better heat fade resistance.

Of course there are "negative return".
I find around 280mm seems to be the "right" size for light weight cars as it have enough mass and surface area to combat heat fade, but at the same time will fit under most 15" wheels.
 

Starlet_Sam

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What sort of pressures are found in a brake hose, as water won't boil at 100 degrees in there when your foot is slammed down on it.
 

Keri-WMS

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What sort of pressures are found in a brake hose, as water won't boil at 100 degrees in there when your foot is slammed down on it.

It varies greatly, but a few thousand psi tends to be about the maximum.

'tis true about the water, and also any other gasses would be compressed, but to compress them uses up travel in the pedal - often all of it.

The trouble is the boiling occurs after the braking has finished, so it's the next corner you need to worry about!
 

MeisterR

Lifer
More volume, less pressure you mean.

Hum... not sure if I got that the other way around.
Basically the larger surface area worth of pistons you have, the more hydraulic pressure you need to move them the same amount.

Therefore, you can either push the paddle down further (more paddle travel) or use a larger master cylinder to increase the pressure.

Thats one of the issue alot of users with Honda Civic have as they upgrade their brake system using the Integra Type-R brakes which have a 5mm (or so) larger piston. What they find is that this mean they need to push the paddle further down in order to provide the same amount of braking.
Most of them end up upgrading their master cylinder also.

Other than increased unsprung and rotational mass.

True, but that doesn't change the "characteristic" of the brake system, therefore it is much safer for most user to use them on the road as it will mean the car will dip a little harder during braking due to the heavier front bias, but it will still brake at the same paddle pressure and same temperature as before the upgrade (assuming you didn't change the calipers.)
 

weakboy2

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well, wilwood 4 pot brakes system makes NO difference to pedal travel. rock solid and nearly at the top with the engine running seems fine to me.

you have to go a fair amount before it becomes an issue
 

Keri-WMS

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Hum... not sure if I got that the other way around.
Basically the larger surface area worth of pistons you have, the more hydraulic pressure you need to move them the same amount.

Therefore, you can either push the paddle down further (more paddle travel) or use a larger master cylinder to increase the pressure.

Thats one of the issue alot of users with Honda Civic have as they upgrade their brake system using the Integra Type-R brakes which have a 5mm (or so) larger piston. What they find is that this mean they need to push the paddle further down in order to provide the same amount of braking.
Most of them end up upgrading their master cylinder also.

You've got all the effects/results spot on but you're mixing up pressure with volume-moved when you think about the reasons.

A bigger caliper piston needs less fluid pressure to apply the same force to a pad as a smaller caliper piston does, but to that it needs a higher volume of fluid. So on a given car fitting bigger piston calipers gives you more power but a softer pedal.

To move more volume of fluid at the master cylinder per mm of pedal travel you need a bigger master cylinder bore, this increases the volume of fluid moved but DECREASES the pressure!

'course what 99% of the modding population miss while frantically searching out calipers with bigger pistons is that the same affect can be achieved (softer pedal, more power) by changing to a smaller bore master cylinder! ...for less cost, and without fitting bigger (heaver) calipers. Doing this increases the power front and rear, and keeps the factory brake bias in place. However of course it does nothing to improve the brake system's resistance to heat. :drive:


True, but that doesn't change the "characteristic" of the brake system, therefore it is much safer for most user to use them on the road as it will mean the car will dip a little harder during braking due to the heavier front bias, but it will still brake at the same paddle pressure and same temperature as before the upgrade (assuming you didn't change the calipers.)

True, for most people bigger discs makes sense. Also the more grip you have (most upgraded cars have wider tyres) the harder you can brake (in the dry!), and the more weight is shifted to the font under maximum retardation, meaning you can get away with an increased front bias.
 

Keri-WMS

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well, wilwood 4 pot brakes system makes NO difference to pedal travel. rock solid and nearly at the top with the engine running seems fine to me.

you have to go a fair amount before it becomes an issue

Yup, that's down to correct piston selection - you just need to match new componants to the specs of the OEM ones to ensure no parameters are changed beyond reasonable levels.

Normally the rule of thumb is you can get away with "up to 25%" increase in piston area but I would stick to a 12.5% increase or less (even a reduction in some cases) to ensure that increased torque from the increased (shallower pads plus bigger discs) effective-pad-radius (as measured from the hub's axis of rotation to the radial centre of the pad) is ballanced out to maintain a sensible bias an that pedal travel isn't compromised.

What piston area are the wilwoods running in relation to the OEM caliper? (Just measure a Wilwood piston, work out it's area, x8 - unless they are are staggered piston in which case average the two sizes.)
 

weakboy2

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no idea lol, they are fitted to the car and are staying there lol.

dave may know, i would of thought it was deffo more area than stock but not as much as it looks as the pistons are far shallower than the original big single piston
 

Keri-WMS

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no idea lol, they are fitted to the car and are staying there lol.

dave may know, i would of thought it was deffo more area than stock but not as much as it looks as the pistons are far shallower than the original big single piston

It's the diameter you need, not how long the pistons are.
 
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