boost control? Electronic vs external

ryan_v

Lifer
I have a external wastegate and a electronic boost controller. Running a standard ecu with a jam fcd with a fpr.

I want to know what are the positive points of having a electronic boost controller? Is there any need for one when your external wastegate is doing the job perfectly?
 

danb87

South East England Area Rep
obviously if your only runnin the spring pressure (turbo nipple too the bottom port of w/g) then the boost controller is irrelevant. the hoek point of the boost controller is too control the boost once its uped past the spring pressure.

points being mate that if u dont have one you can only run the spring pressure .8/.9 1.br or whatever your spring is. obs depending on your setup the ebc allows you too turn that boost up an control it.

defo worth having mate, especially if your aimin too run high boost or upgrading in future.
 

ryan_v

Lifer
I just want to run one pressure off the wastegate spring and set the fueling for it. Im struggling too see the point in having a electronic boost controller it just seems like a expensive gimmic to me. Thats why I want to know the positive points to having one.
 

danb87

South East England Area Rep
if your running spring pressure mate you dont need one, im running spring pressure at the mo on mine an my ebc aint even plumbed in at the mo

positivis is if you wanna turn boost up you can obs you can get the ebc too run spring pressure if setup/also allows you too turn up if you have it setup with fuel etc first.

but as i said there useful if you ever wanna up the boost. its a pretty simple gadjet mate an diffrent ebc allow diffrent boost settings, my avc has 3 spring pressure, 1.2br n 1.6 :)
 

weeJohn

Lifer
You dont need a controller if you want to run spring pressure, all the controller will do is raise the boost level.
 
As above dont need to fit boost controller unless you want to run above spring pressure got a aem tru boost controller fitted in mine with external wastegate love it it's nice and simples
 

Texx

Super Moderator
As said you don't need one, however depending on the functionality of the particular controller in use, it can be used to bring peak boost pressure in sooner.
 

Guye

Lifer
As said you don't need one, however depending on the functionality of the particular controller in use, it can be used to bring peak boost pressure in sooner.

100% agreed. Some ebc allow the users to enhance the spool up times without raising boost beyond spring pressure. Say for example your spool up starts at 2500rpm full boost (1bar) by 3500 (just an example), depending on your controller you can adjust gain settings to make the solenoid withhold boost pressure from the wastegate right up to the point just before spring boost pressure is reached. This is a useful feature that allows you to get the most response from your turbo without causing boost spike. You could see spool up improve to 1500rpm full boost by 2000rpm (just an example yet again). All of this depends on if your ebc has provisions for this feature.
 

duratec7s

Member +
Can you also use a boost controller to run a lower boost than the spring pressure?? or does the spring need chnaging to do this?
cheers
 

duratec7s

Member +
so if i put in a large yellow which runs .7 bar. i can use this for now until i remap it then use the controller to raise it up??
Or am i better going for a smaller spring for less boost and letting the controller do it all??
Only asking as i am planning on fitting the TD04 with Ex wastegate and my leccy controller but want to make sure i can run it safely before i get it mapped.
Got a jam FCD and a FPRR at the mo to go on too....
cheers again guys
 

Ted

Member +
gotta remember that using the boost controller to raise boost a LOT over spring pressure isnt great. if you want 1.4 bar then use a 1.2 bar spring. boost is more stable that way
 

duratec7s

Member +
i am aiming for 1bar in the end so would a 0.7 spring suit??
want standard boost until i get it mapped up....
cheers again
 

AdamB

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0.7 spring will be fine for 1 bar. A boost controller can only raise boost pressure, you can never go lower than actuator spring pressure.
 
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