cut springs ok on some cars?

[gordonoleary]

just the shocks and springs not with coilovers

didnt i read on here of a post that you bought an sti type r?what happened to that?couldnt afford it?

 

[Derek]

just the shocks and springs not with coilovers

didnt i read on here of a post that you bought an sti type r?what happened to that?couldnt afford it?

Had to back out of buying it bit of a change in the financial situation, so bought something more affordable for the mo.

 

[Sharagath]

it depends on how much you whant to get it lowerd extra.

most lowering springs or stock ones could get compressed some more.
Extra compression is done here often, mostly it gets 1 cm more.
depends on the construction of the spring.

 

[gordonoleary]

Had to back out of buying it bit of a change in the financial situation, so bought something more affordable for the mo.

you thought you had more money than you had mate,was a nice sti too,how do you find the integra type r

 

[GT-TD04]

had them in my car,didnt even know..basically thunk thunk thunk,they would offer slighly better handling due to it being lower but still way too dodgy.

Replaced mine btw

 

[Derek]

you thought you had more money than you had mate,was a nice sti too,how do you find the integra type r

Pretty much and a few things came up, very happy with the integra bar cant really drive it properly the weather aint the greatest for it.
Edit: Soz gone of topic here

 

[fastglanza]

well from a starlets point of view its shit..the ride is horrible..i've damaged brand new slightly uprated shocks on these..

Im sure u cud get lowering springs for the mazda cheap no? But in anycase they all lead to premature shock absorber damage..the lowering springs wud give a better ride tho

 

[CaL]

gordon you have cut springs?

 

[gordonoleary]

gordon you have cut springs?

you have a damaged car mate but hey

car was bought like that and they will be taken out in the next few weeks,i never new they were real bad until tonight when i came on here one of my mates has -40mm lying around from a n/a id say they will fit

 

[Monkfish]

Without even reading that or this thread, cut springs = dangerous epic fail.

Springs are held in place because they are under contant tension due to their length, which is matched for the suspension setup of a given car. Lowering springs are often the same length but have progressive coils (They get tighter towards the centre) meaning that when the car is dropped to the floor, the outer few coils compress and often touch, with the inner, closer coils doing the job normal springs do. This is why lowering springs are always harder.

Cutting springs means that they are too short. This has two significant implications...

1. Should the car ride up on a bump and the lower arms drop so far, the spring will unload and because it is too short, it will fall out of it's mounts. This will cause at best, fouling of the wheel, which will lock up.
2. A shorter spring will lower the car. Said car will be closer to the ground and will also have less suspension travel. Due to the fact the spring rate has not been increased (Using aforementioned progressive lowering springs) means that the springs will fully compress and/or the shock will bottom out, producing some incredibly iratic handling characteristics, especially on bumpy ground.

Either of the 2 points above could cost you, a passenger, or an innocent person, their life. Is it really worth it for the saving cost of a set of lowering springs (£120 if you look)?

 

[dac69er]

i would never do it. i was giving some advice on an mx5 forum saying not to cut springs, i was slated by some lad as he recknons its the thing to do as others have done it.

i would just get lowering springs myself.

 

[Dub-Se7en]

cut springs are dangerous, i've witnessed this first hand.

also, they don't often seat correctly in the cups leading to annoying 'poinging' noises at best or, as i experienced, falling out of the cup completely, which ain't nice!

 

[dac69er]

and ive just notieced he's from solihull with a 200bhp mx5! get him to give me a shout

go give him a slap please? he is winding me up

what he does is up to him but telling others to cut springs is just stupid

 

[Harvey]

I agree with Monkfish on this however some el cheapo lowering springs are shorter then stock springs so its not always clear cut!

I cut the springs on my Ren 19 years ago, but not to lower it, and i only took off approx 1 coil. It was because the sprig had rusted and broke off at one end so i took them both out and cut them so they were the same lentgh again.

I then bought new 30mm lowered springs and put them on. Now if anyone has worked ona renault before they will knoiw they have bloody long springs! Some of the most dangerous to change, need at least 3 spring compressors 4 is preferable! Anyway - the new lowered springs basically fell into the shocks without requiring much compressing!!

Either way i certainly wouldnt considering cutting springs to lower the car, not when you can often get tein/rsr/ etc etc brand named springs for 100-140 a set