Cathal EP82
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As above is anyone using any vf turbos on a plug and play ecu... if they are what do they think of it and what setup is being used.... thanks for any info
ihi vf turbo on toms plug and play
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ramses974
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What kind of vf ?? and what plug and play ecu?
Cathal EP82
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Vf28 on a red label toms tecs ecu
ramses974
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ok...
i have already done this with a jam and blitz ecu....with a vf28
maximum boost was 0.8 bar at 11.6 afr with 315cc injectors (not 295 cc)
TOM is very similar, not the same amount of advance timing , than the jam or blitz ecu that happear very agressive .
gorganl2000
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whatever you do you will need to go get everything checked properly or else you could end up with a relatively expense rebuild/replacement job
Cathal EP82
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Thanks for the info lads im gonna get my fueling checked as soon as i have the kit on the car... mabie im better off selling the plug and play and buying a emanage blue r ultimate. R swap my turbo for a td04.... will up a post up as soon as i do so again thanks men
ramses974
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you can add the blue or the ultimate to it too...
Cathal EP82
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gorganl2000
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i agree, the emanage ultimate would be the best of your list to get the car tuned properly to match your exact set up
is your engine stock? if so, maybe a td04L would be a bit better as you could run lower boost 1bar and make decent power
on the other hand, greater than 1 bar maybe needed for the vf28 to be in its "sweet spot", which will depend on how your feel about your engine, its reliability and tuner's ability.
some members don't want to risk running more than 1 bar on a stock engine, while some have run more...so its a toss up dependent solely on you
is your engine stock? if so, maybe a td04L would be a bit better as you could run lower boost 1bar and make decent power
on the other hand, greater than 1 bar maybe needed for the vf28 to be in its "sweet spot", which will depend on how your feel about your engine, its reliability and tuner's ability.
some members don't want to risk running more than 1 bar on a stock engine, while some have run more...so its a toss up dependent solely on you
Cathal EP82
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Yea im on stock internals for now... planning on starting a forged build 5e during the winter. I dont really plan on running more than .8 or mabie 1.0 on a stock engine. Im currently running a bar on a hybrid ct9 with the toms ecu and all the other usuall upgrades but my turbo is getting smokey so thats y i want to put the turbo kit on and then build up the 5e i bought a while back.
Cathal EP82
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Ran a vf24 and a 29 on a forged 4e ( basically the same as a 28) and at 1.4 bar they were awesome. At a bar it just wasn't worth it on a 4e. People discount the td04 just because it's been done loads of times-it's a great turbo, and takes abuse unlike the non-rebuildable vf28
Do u think it would b a good idea to swap the vf28 for a td04. Bear in mind i plan on using dis turbo kit on a forged 5e in the future
Do u think it would b a good idea to swap the vf28 for a td04. Bear in mind i plan on using dis turbo kit on a forged 5e in the future
ramses974
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ramses974
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They are very different on a 4e and 5e...
On a 4e ,vf24 can appear a litle laggy and you must be in the zone of the turbo spooling....TD04 is more "streetable" whereas a lot of people can find it "laggy" in front of a ct9....
On a 5e, things change, when you run a vf24 28 29 it is like a 4e on a td04 but the power is very high and brutal...
In my opinion, if you have already the VF28 and the Tom's ecu , you will be disapointed at 0.8b , and a td04 will outperform your setup at the same boost and will be more suitable...
In other case you can have some hybrid TD04, but a lot of them react differently ,i used a lot of td04: td04-15 td04-19t and i have found some of them more laggy than a vf...
My set up now is very very different, i have a 5EFHE High compression with a VF35 (greddy ultimate with Blitz Ecu 1.2b)
Cathal EP82
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Yea i think ill try source a td04
Cathal EP82
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Does anyone no where i would get a td04 r would b interested ina swap for a vf28
gorganl2000
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if u plan to run a 5e in the future, either turbo will work td04l or vf28
vf28 will make more power,
td04l will be a very fun car with early spool on the 5e, though not as powerful as vf28
depends on what you want
if u get the emanage ultimate, you can use the stock ecu ---sell the toms and use the money to help pay for your new project, piggyback, tune, etc
as ramses says, it is possible to tune plug and play ecu with emu,
but the same results could probably be achieved with the stock ecu and emu
vf28 will make more power,
td04l will be a very fun car with early spool on the 5e, though not as powerful as vf28
depends on what you want
if u get the emanage ultimate, you can use the stock ecu ---sell the toms and use the money to help pay for your new project, piggyback, tune, etc
as ramses says, it is possible to tune plug and play ecu with emu,
but the same results could probably be achieved with the stock ecu and emu
Cathal EP82
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if u plan to run a 5e in the future, either turbo will work td04l or vf28
vf28 will make more power,
td04l will be a very fun car with early spool on the 5e, though not as powerful as vf28
depends on what you want
if u get the emanage ultimate, you can use the stock ecu ---sell the toms and use the money to help pay for your new project, piggyback, tune, etc
as ramses says, it is possible to tune plug and play ecu with emu,
but the same results could probably be achieved with the stock ecu and emu
Yea i understand what your saying dude but how would a vf28 turbo fair out on a stock 4e as i planned on using the turbo now because my turbo on the car is getting smokey. Would it b a good r bad idea.
vf28 will make more power,
td04l will be a very fun car with early spool on the 5e, though not as powerful as vf28
depends on what you want
if u get the emanage ultimate, you can use the stock ecu ---sell the toms and use the money to help pay for your new project, piggyback, tune, etc
as ramses says, it is possible to tune plug and play ecu with emu,
but the same results could probably be achieved with the stock ecu and emu
Yea i understand what your saying dude but how would a vf28 turbo fair out on a stock 4e as i planned on using the turbo now because my turbo on the car is getting smokey. Would it b a good r bad idea.