VERY interesting brembo set up....

[Keri-WMS]

One thing you'll want to check is that the piston area isn't too big an increase or the brake bias will be moved too far to the front (making the front lock up too early) - the Coupe 16vt single-pot calipers are about a 27% increase over the EP ones, and I suspect the Coupe 20vt ones will be bigger still.

I've actualy got Coupe 20vt stuff here as a reference as they want me to develop a race brake kit for them! Not had a chance to look at the Brembo caliper in detail though.

 

[Dan-The-Glanza-Man]

i get that johnny boy but what disc are they from dude cant be any 305mm as there all different centres ect, how much did you manage to find these calipers for mate

 

[Motor]

Could always use smaller disks seen as the callipers are a direct fit. Same as is done with the levin twin pot upgrade where the 295mm levin disks aren't used

 

[Paul_JJ]

My mate at work said the he can fit 300mm on his fiesta with 15 inch tyres!!! hard to believe but so he says!

Yeah, that's Fiesta ST brakes and the calipers has to be shaped!

 

[Johnny_C]

Could always use smaller disks seen as the callipers are a direct fit. Same as is done with the levin twin pot upgrade where the 295mm levin disks aren't used

im bring this back up as that post interested me.


would it be possible to use these calipers on a smaller disc,and does anyone think it will fit?

 

[Mart]

I have these exact calipers fitted to mine Johnny.
My mech used 275mm discs.
I have 16's.

 

[Johnny_C]

I have these exact calipers fitted to mine Johnny.
My mech used 275mm discs.
I have 16's.

will 15s defo not fit?
did the calipers bolt on ok to your hubs?(i would imagine they would)

mind sharing what you used to fit them?

 

[jonny-boi32]

interested in doing this myself. been watching these calipers on ebay, few sets have went for £150 lately. but really dont fancy 16" wheels. although as for the fitment, surely if you use smaller discs the capiler will still be in the same location as its bolted to the hub, so still wont fit under 15"s.

although from the pics below, IF the caliper would fit close enough to the hub would it be safe enough to drill new holes in the hub brackets to get the caliper in closer then also use the smaller discs?? would that even work?

 

[starletsy]

That isn't a starlet hub though mate i'vs got hold of a set of calipers but it's looking like a custom disk job

 

[jayc-glanza17]

anymore on this set up??

 

[AdamB]

Just bumping this back up...

Are the fiat coupe brembo's the same as the pug 406 brembo's? Just there seems to be a lot more of the 406 calipers around than the fiat ones.
I'm a student designer so I'm going to design my own brackets as i'm looking at running a 295mm disc diameter, got my eye on a set of calipers at the moment.

 

[starletsy]

Adam they are the same as the focus calpiers but not the 406 ones.
these will bolt to the starlet hub without a bracket but due to the size of the caliper you will need wheels with very good caliper to spoke clerence.
If i were you and could sort bracets i would be looking at brembo's from a clio or megane as they have a bracket seperate to the caliper.

 

[AdamB]

I was planning on running 16's to accomadate bigger brakes and to allow me to run a wider tyre because I want to be able to put power down well enough. Not sure if they will fit behind 16's though?

I understand what you say about the bracket, it does seem to be a bit of a pain considering they already have a mounting bracket as part of the caliper. I'll check out the megane/clio's, since they are newer they might be a bit slimmer as well, although I don't facny the price tag that will come with them

Edit...
Just found a set of the megane 225 brembo's that seem to be at a good price, I think i'm going to do a bit more digging and find out what the pistons sizes are between the megane brembo's and the fiat brembo's to see what gives the better braking force without making the car to sloppy.

 

[rwdrev]

i am also going to put the fiat calipers on, but what discs dou you use? the fiat 1's at 98mm pcd and file the holes out a 1mm or use a disk with a 100mm pcd?

 

[AdamB]

I'm assuming from the first post you file the holes out a few mm to give the 100 PCD.
I myself will most probably go to brembo or AP and give them some dimensions so I can get custom discs to suit, as i'm not sure if the 305mm will fit behind 16 wheels.

 

[Paul_JJ]

I'm assuming from the first post you file the holes out a few mm to give the 100 PCD.
I myself will most probably go to brembo or AP and give them some dimensions so I can get custom discs to suit, as i'm not sure if the 305mm will fit behind 16 wheels.

Depends on the wheels and calipers - I know a bloke who fitted 300 under 15" wheels on his fiesta using Mondeo Calipers, SO don't see why not on the 16" -)

 

[rwdrev]

fiat coupe 20v turbo 305mm discs fit under a 16" wheel (team dynamics pro race 1.2) and the hub needs filing out a couple mill to fit the standard starlet hub (or mine do anyway) but the combo of them both dont work on the starlet hub. i will try and get some photos up of the set up. so now i am thinking on still using the fiat discs but differnt calipers

 

[WallaceGlanza]

Depends on the wheels and calipers - I know a bloke who fitted 300 under 15" wheels on his fiesta using Mondeo Calipers, SO don't see why not on the 16" -)

300mm discs with 15's.....

So 305 with 16's shouldn't be a problem but it also depends on the caliper.

As Adam mentioned it's important to check the piston sizes to make sure they'll work with our master cylinders - too big and there won't be sufficient pressure over all the cylinders so the brakes could be worse.

The wilwood kits and wms kits are sized carefully to make sure they'll work well with the standard master cylinder.

 

[AdamB]

As Adam mentioned it's important to check the piston sizes to make sure they'll work with our master cylinders - too big and there won't be sufficient pressure over all the cylinders so the brakes could be worse.

The wilwood kits and wms kits are sized carefully to make sure they'll work well with the standard master cylinder.

I did check the size of the pistons for the megane 225/clio 197 brembo's and they are way too large for the starlet. So I wouldn't advise using them as you would get very poor performance from them.
The Fiat brembo's though I couldn't find any piston sizes on, but since they are of an old design caliper, and large disc you would have to run 16" rims to fit them unless you have a good spoke design wheel.