can this be removed?

monka

Member +
no, i just dont see why your so against it,

removed the engine bay looks a hole lot neater, and if the vapours are vented out the way, whats the danger?
 

Timmy

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no, i just dont see why your so against it,

removed the engine bay looks a hole lot neater, and if the vapours are vented out the way, whats the danger?

Because the flame will work it's way back to the source and set you car on fire.

It is illeagle to remove and hardly visable in the engine bay, i've not known anyone to have removed it for asphetics.
 

monka

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Because the flame will work it's way back to the source and set you car on fire.

It is illeagle to remove and hardly visable in the engine bay, i've not known anyone to have removed it for asphetics.

where is this flame going to come from?

there is no source of ignition, and you'd need a pretty damn big gathering of fumes
 

Timmy

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Nope fumes are very flammable would take hardly anything, but odds on a fire i don't know. Besides it's a nil point considering it is illeagle and really pointless.
 
where is this flame going to come from?

there is no source of ignition, and you'd need a pretty damn big gathering of fumes

If there's fumes under your bonnet then your asking for a fire!!

Its not hard to find a spark, even if you cross a ramp in your car and your exhaust tipps off the ground then you'll get sparks.

Fumes from fuel line + one single spark = blow up fuel tank = bye bye monka => not worth the risk just for looks :)
 

GT-TD04

Supermoderator
My battery went kamakazie 2weeks ago and took out 2 leads,naked spark juming around the bay,easy done
 

Starlet_Sam

Moderator, Regional Area Reps Supervisor & Gay Car
Because the flame will work it's way back to the source and set you car on fire.

It is illeagle to remove and hardly visable in the engine bay, i've not known anyone to have removed it for asphetics.

It will go to the source but won't go down a tube or into the fuel tank due to the high quantity of petrol vapour and distinct lack of oxygen.

dont remove it. remember fuel vapour is more explosive than the fuel itself

Petrol is only flammable as a gas (seriously, light a pool of petrol and the flames hovers slightly over the liquid and burns the evapourated fumes.
 

Jay

Admin
Hmm, let's see if I can remember this right...

This canister performs two things:

1) It draws in air from the atmosphere to ensure your fuel tank does not compress as the fuel is pumped from it. The air is drawn in from that little black box so removing it will allow unprotected air into the fuel system environment. Probably best to clean it up and leave it where is it mate.

2) The charcoal canister also filters the vapour from your fuel tank and feeds them back into the inlet manifold all in the name of emissions control. To control this system the ECU uses the VSV solenoid you were asking about in the other thread. This valve makes sure the charcoal filtering doesn't operate on cold start. Any disconnected or not functioning part will have a consequencual effect on your emissions levels.

Now although only the MOT tester and the hippies will dislike this my main concern is that the fuel vapours will not be properly vented safely into the inlet tract in a controlled fashion (if at all).

Fuel vapour + accidential spark = Melted Monka.

Does that make sense bro?

Jay
 

monka

Member +
that makes sense yeah mate,
so if i just made sure the gas's were being spat out away from the engine or cabin would be ok?

does it effect running or just emissions?
 

Jay

Admin
It effects emissions. The actual running should not be affected so long as you plug the inlet manifold hole but the air intake into your fuel tank will no longer be filtered. This may pose fuel quality issues in future.

Just to note - I have retained these parts in my trackcar as it made more sense to keep them.
 
When you say it effects emissions do you mean the ones from the exhaust or just the emissions of it venting to the atmosphere.
 
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