Is your heating OK? when it's freeezing cold outside!

Rev

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Sounds good , I would add I've read lifting the front of the car helps to clear the bubbles when filling the radiator , probably helps with No. 1 as well.
 

Paul_JJ

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What do you think of the silicone hoses and the TRD 1.3BAR cap??? Would that help in the summer? It increases the pressure - would that be ok for the radiator???

Reps given as usual!
 

Ben89

Lifer
What do you think of the silicone hoses and the TRD 1.3BAR cap??? Would that help in the summer? It increases the pressure - would that be ok for the radiator???

Reps given as usual!

I personally wouldn't bother with raising the pressure, The systems designed at 0.9 bar and generally copes ok so i wouldn't change it, Iv been running 0.9bar cap for over 3 years at 1.1bar on a hybrid and it's taken it no problem.
 

Starlet_Sam

Moderator, Regional Area Reps Supervisor & Gay Car
I personally wouldn't bother with raising the pressure, The systems designed at 0.9 bar and generally copes ok so i wouldn't change it, Iv been running 0.9bar cap for over 3 years at 1.1bar on a hybrid and it's taken it no problem.

By that logic you shouldn't up the boost past standard as that is what the car is designed for.
 

Paul_JJ

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By that logic you shouldn't up the boost past standard as that is what the car is designed for.

That was exactly what I was thinking!!! But then, yes a lot of people drive without any changes to the coolant, but this can reduce the engine's life dramatically! It wasn't designed for it AGREED, nor it was to 1 BAR CT9 not to mention TD04. It works however!
 

Ben89

Lifer
That was exactly what I was thinking!!! But then, yes a lot of people drive without any changes to the coolant, but this can reduce the engine's life dramatically! It wasn't designed for it AGREED, nor it was to 1 BAR CT9 not to mention TD04. It works however!

But my car is by no means standard, my coolant system is, but everything bar the engine internals and inlet plenum is uprated. Not only to help it produce more power but to help the car run safer, so it's up to you as I said but I do know what im talking about no matter what starlet Sam may be trying to imply.
Also you mention td04 as if to imply it would put more load across the engine but actually the hybrid would create more heat at 1.1bar just FYI.
Cheers
 

Starlet_Sam

Moderator, Regional Area Reps Supervisor & Gay Car
But my car is by no means standard, my coolant system is, but everything bar the engine internals and inlet plenum is uprated. Not only to help it produce more power but to help the car run safer, so it's up to you as I said but I do know what im talking about no matter what starlet Sam may be trying to imply.
Also you mention td04 as if to imply it would put more load across the engine but actually the hybrid would create more heat at 1.1bar just FYI.
Cheers

Nah, I'm sure you're a genious but your logic on the cooling system is flawed if you don't modify it because it's not designed for it. Upping the pressure will allow the coolant to get hotter before it boils, that is all.
 

J25GTi

Lifer
Nah, I'm sure you're a genious but your logic on the cooling system is flawed if you don't modify it because it's not designed for it. Upping the pressure will allow the coolant to get hotter before it boils, that is all.

Yeah, exactly, its not a good idea to up the temperature of the cooling system. Which upping the pressure will do..

Kind of defeats the object of the "cooling" system
 

wesgt

Lifer
as said get new thermostats, also i'd flush out the whole cooling system, including the heater matrix, you wouldn't believe the shit that gathers in there, and you should have loads of lovely heat then, toyota heaters are known for being very good. get that done and your sorted
 

Starlet_Sam

Moderator, Regional Area Reps Supervisor & Gay Car
Yeah, exactly, its not a good idea to up the temperature of the cooling system. Which upping the pressure will do..

Kind of defeats the object of the "cooling" system
No, it won't magic more heat into it. It'll allow it to get hotter before it boils. If it boils you'll have gasses in your system which will create hotspots which will damage the engine, it'll also force coolant out of the system as steam takes more space than liquid. A 1.3bar cap will allow it to get to about 135 degrees before it boils, but of course it'll take your right foot and high ambient temps to get it there it won't just do it itself.
 

Paul_JJ

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On my experience, TRD doesn't make shitty mods, everything they make cost a fortune, but does improve whatever you replace!
Increasing the pressure will help to cool down the engine, but I don't want to do it on my car because of the gearbox, it's also connected to the radiator and that would mean that more pressure will go to the gearbox, I don't want that. By the way my radiator is double the thickness of the standard radiator!!!

I've been thinking about the design, why is the AC radiator is in front of the standard radiator? why is it so big? Have you touched it in the summer? It's always cold no matter what temperature outside! I assume it helps to cool the standard radiator as it is cold and the hot air in the summer passes through it and get's slightly cooled down!

I've seen under the bonnet after a good run on the hybrid of my mates, it's steaming!!! I'm not saying that it's hot, no it's not hot, it's EXTREMELY HOT! I bet that don't do any good to the engine!

Regarding the heater matrix - where is it located and how do I clean it???
 

Paul_JJ

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as said get new thermostats, also i'd flush out the whole cooling system, including the heater matrix, you wouldn't believe the shit that gathers in there, and you should have loads of lovely heat then, toyota heaters are known for being very good. get that done and your sorted

Regarding the heaters - TRUST ME MATE, you can't beat the VOLVO! -35C outside - I was sweating in a T-shirt inside the car!
On the other note - French cars....... SUCH a NIGHTMARE when it's cold, not only the diesel doesn't start properly, the heaters are horrible!
 
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wesgt

Lifer
On my experience, TRD doesn't make shitty mods, everything they make cost a fortune, but does improve whatever you replace!
Increasing the pressure will help to cool down the engine, but I don't want to do it on my car because of the gearbox, it's also connected to the radiator and that would mean that more pressure will go to the gearbox, I don't want that. By the way my radiator is double the thickness of the standard radiator!!!

I've been thinking about the design, why is the AC radiator is in front of the standard radiator? why is it so big? Have you touched it in the summer? It's always cold no matter what temperature outside! I assume it helps to cool the standard radiator as it is cold and the hot air in the summer passes through it and get's slightly cooled down!

I've seen under the bonnet after a good run on the hybrid of my mates, it's steaming!!! I'm not saying that it's hot, no it's not hot, it's EXTREMELY HOT! I bet that don't do any good to the engine!

Regarding the heater matrix - where is it located and how do I clean it???

you'll find 2 pipes going into the bulkhead, pull both of those off and run some water in through one of them, it'll come out the other, run the water til it comes out clear, if your changing the thermostat, when its out run water through the other rad pipes, into the engine etc and flush the radiator , had to do it on a glanza i had, made a world of difference.
the gunk that came out was crazy

these are the pipes at the bulkhead
matrixinletandoutletbq2.jpg


Regarding the heaters - TRUST ME MATE, you can't be the VOLVO! -35C outside - I was sweating in a T-shirt inside the car!
On the other note - French cars....... SUCH a NIGHTMARE when it's cold, not only the diesel doesn't start properly, the heaters are horrible!

yeh we had near minus 20 here and not a bother to my diesel camry, toasty warm inside and started first turn
 
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Paul_JJ

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you'll find 2 pipes going into the bulkhead, pull both of those off and run some water in through one of them, it'll come out the other, run the water til it comes out clear, if your changing the thermostat, when its out run water through the other rad pipes, into the engine etc and flush the radiator , had to do it on a glanza i had, made a world of difference.
the gunk that came out was crazy

these are the pipes at the bulkhead
matrixinletandoutletbq2.jpg




yeh we had near minus 20 here and not a bother to my diesel camry, toasty warm inside and started first turn

Thank you mate! Very good advise! AS I've changed the coolant already, do I have to drain the radiator now? or can I just flash the Matrix? Would the coolant be in those pipes? I've no idea how it works, but I would assume that it's connected to the radiator!

Below -20C - all the diesel cars would have BIG problems, unless the fuel tank has the heater or unless you use special WINTER type diesel!
 

wesgt

Lifer
Thank you mate! Very good advise! AS I've changed the coolant already, do I have to drain the radiator now? or can I just flash the Matrix? Would the coolant be in those pipes? I've no idea how it works, but I would assume that it's connected to the radiator!

Below -20C - all the diesel cars would have BIG problems, unless the fuel tank has the heater or unless you use special WINTER type diesel!

well we had minus 17 here and i had no problems! drove the car everyday!
yes its all connected, but you should be able to block those two pipes or tie them up for a bit while you flush it out, you'll lose a bit though, but just top up when you're done!
just get your garden hose and put it into the hole left in the bulkhead and let the water circulate, that will just flush the matrix
 

Starlet_Sam

Moderator, Regional Area Reps Supervisor & Gay Car
I've been thinking about the design, why is the AC radiator is in front of the standard radiator? why is it so big? Have you touched it in the summer? It's always cold no matter what temperature outside! I assume it helps to cool the standard radiator as it is cold and the hot air in the summer passes through it and get's slightly cooled down!

You assume incorrectly. When the AC gasses get compressed it get hot, when they expand they cool dramatically and if the compressed gasses are already cold then they get seriously cold when they expand again. So the pump compresses it, the radiator cools it, and then it expands around the system again cooling the matrix and BAM, you have seriously cold air in the car. Exactly the same as your kitchen fridge. The radiator is there to cool the air con gasses, not cool the air going to the radiator.
 

Paul_JJ

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You assume incorrectly. When the AC gasses get compressed it get hot, when they expand they cool dramatically and if the compressed gasses are already cold then they get seriously cold when they expand again. So the pump compresses it, the radiator cools it, and then it expands around the system again cooling the matrix and BAM, you have seriously cold air in the car. Exactly the same as your kitchen fridge. The radiator is there to cool the air con gasses, not cool the air going to the radiator.

So even if it's (AC RADIATOR) really cold and you don't use the AC it's still doesn't do any good to cool down the radiator! Right? I was always wondering how come it drinks MORE petrol when the AC is ON, when the belt is always rotating!!! Or is it sort of like in Neutral -))) unless you press the button?

Have you got an AC on your car? I need to see your car m8, I visit the Oxford every so often, my friend lives there!
 

Paul_JJ

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@ Paul_JJ What turbo are you running in your car now and what turbo was in your old starlet

My Glanza V has a standard turbo!

My old starlet was N/A. Imported from Japan, pretty rare 5dr Starlet, which is pretty much the same as Glanza S (apart from the shape and 5 doors), but no turbo and 5dr, with AC, quicker than the UK Starlet SR.
 
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