Speedvision new billet cams 265 degrees and uprated valve springs

[Tim@TBDevelopments]

i forwarded what you said to dustin.

i for one would like to see these working and having a good feedback because i'd just buy some myself or my build.

what do you think happened to remove all the ramp from the cam lobe?

Tim

 

[TheStarletGT]

The required machining at the front of the cam has put me off in buying these cams. This should already be done by the manufacturer, who ever it is. It should be a 100% direct fit.

 

[speedvision]

Fair enough Sam but could you put up a thread that your cams are sorted now and Mybe it can get a few lads back to buying them as I get asked many a time about people wanting to buy your cams .as they don't know if there working or not with the threads that have gone up in the past about pin position timing etc.

hey Billy i have about 7-8 sets of cams left and every last one was repositioned by crower to set the timing right. They used an oem cam and did what they had to to make the timing marks correct by changing the location of the pin.. since then no one has contacted me nor complained about incorrect timing.

 

[speedvision]

am not accusing you, but i was confused with the crower box thats all

not you mate..

sam

 

[speedvision]

i forwarded what you said to dustin.

i for one would like to see these working and having a good feedback because i'd just buy some myself or my build.

what do you think happened to remove all the ramp from the cam lobe?

Tim

Yes Tim hope he can clarify that ..all he has to do is ask Lewis about the cam pin repositioning and he will confirm....i am sure i have my receipts which clearly has repositioning of pin...

about that wear on that lobe..it can be many factors...no one of us can confirm because we were not there and did not build the engine..

1. poor lubrication
2. improper base pressure
3. improper reshimming( wrong valve clearance)
4. improper break in process.
5. incorrect installation on the whole.

Not blaming anyone but there are many factors one has to consider and if you are not there you can never know what actually went wrong.

regards
sam

 

[speedvision]

The machining on the ones that came in the Crower box look good compared to the original ones that were sent. Is there anyone on here that is actually using the ones that came with the Crower box?

crower never machined them...they were already made so the "looking good" was original ..all they did was repositioned the pin.

 

[speedvision]

well ive had 2 sets the first ones were utter shit quality ways, then i order a new set and they cam in a crowler box. now ive had crowler cams in my skyline and evo and they look similar in quality to them.

this statement tells me how wrong one can be in just looking and assuming on a brand and quality...

becuase the cams are not crower made. they were only there to reposition the pin as i said before.

sam

 

[TheStarletGT]

So in other words, you sell unfinished camsafts. Cams that dont fit unless they get another $300 in labour costs to get machined. Thats pretty shet if you ask me.

PS: Get another camshaft contractor,unless you only told crower to do the pin rectifcation?

 

[speedvision]

So in other words, you sell unfinished camsafts. Cams that dont fit unless they get another $300 in labour costs to get machined. Thats pretty shet if you ask me.

PS: Get another camshaft contractor,unless you only told crower to do the pin rectifcation?

yes i have only asked them to set the pin correct. timing was the main issue.

it is stated when buying that u need to machine to fit the gear, if you or no one else cannot do it then DONT BUY IT ..SIMPLE AS THAT..sorry but thats how this batch is and i will not waste time in doing it as its only a few sets left.

The next ones i will guarantee they will be 100 % direct fit except for shimming which cannot be guaranteed which i was told.

sam

 

[spuddy]

The gears can be made to fit very very eaily, by doing what it says, either file down the gear or take the upper lip back on the shaft. Dunno where you got your 300 dollers of machining figure from. I got mine professionally done for £10, 1 min in the lathe.

I have a diagram on how to fix it, I'll put it up later.

 

[billybob]

hey Billy i have about 7-8 sets of cams left and every last one was repositioned by crower to set the timing right. They used an oem cam and did what they had to to make the timing marks correct by changing the location of the pin.. since then no one has contacted me nor complained about incorrect timing.

sounds good.it would be great if some one on here bought a set from you to confirm there working ok now

 

[spuddy]

ALL CAMS need prefessional experience or knowledgeable experience to fit. If you just fire in cams on what ever shims then your not right in the head and deserve your engine to fail.

Alot of people have these cams in and running succesfully and are making great power gains on them.

You need to stop calling people names on this forum lad, act like a grown up or if thats beyond you then don't use our forums.

 

[Texx]

I've just cleaned this thread up, so please stop the bitching ladies :holdit:

I can assure you it's easier to hit the ban button than waste time removing unnecessary posts.

 

[TRD1mos]

First of all i have to say that anyone that changes cams with new ugrade ones have to change shims and tune from the start clearance.I have changed many cams from many companies to toyota engines toda,hks,bdillas,etc and the most times,except tuning shims and changing,sometimes the head need to be torn some pieces because of the depth of the cams (most of the times are bigger).I have tried speedvision cams i am very pleased,i recommend to be replaced by an experienced tuner-mechanic.In my 4efte 1300cc i had 421BHP and 45kg.m at 2,2bar,no problem and i have them istalled over 20.000km.Unfortunately i have not results before but i am going to use the same on a stock engine and go to dyno before and after to see the exact differences.Although i would like more aggresive ones and with more depth.

 

[popsy09]

First of all i have to say that anyone that changes cams with new ugrade ones have to change shims and tune from the start clearance.I have changed many cams from many companies to toyota engines toda,hks,bdillas,etc and the most times,except tuning shims and changing,sometimes the head need to be torn some pieces because of the depth of the cams (most of the times are bigger).I have tried speedvision cams i am very pleased,i recommend to be replaced by an experienced tuner=mechanic.In my 4efte 1300cc i had 421BHP and 45kg.m at 2,2bar,no problem and i have them istalled over 20.000klm.Unfortunately i have not results before but i am going to use the same on a stock engine and go to dyno before and after to see the exact differences.Although i would like more aggresive ones and with more depth.

man you need to get pics up asap sounds like a serious car

 

[Tim@TBDevelopments]

i agree with shim clearances thats a given as far as i'm concerned. its all this talk of spring base pressure and bind that worries me.

drop in cams like these are sold as should have this already worked out, so it is a case of drop them in and sort out shim clearance and away you go. this is how its meant to be done by all other cam companies i've ever used. With the exception of very high lift cams which catch the alloy head casting where you need to recess little pockets but this is normally stamped all over the instructions. even in that extremely high lift of 11mm or higher you don't have to mess about with sinking the springs into the head to get them to work. thats just a cope out for not enough RnD

Tim

 

[speedvision]

i forwarded what you said to dustin.

i for one would like to see these working and having a good feedback because i'd just buy some myself or my build.

what do you think happened to remove all the ramp from the cam lobe?

Tim

still waiting on your response from your friend Dustin?? You got a response within a few hrs saying that they never made cams for 4e and accusing me of selling crower cams, but its been 3 weeks now and u cant get a response on what i said to clarify the matter.

 

[billybob]

still waiting on your response from your friend Dustin?? You got a response within a few hrs saying that they never made cams for 4e and accusing me of selling crower cams, but its been 3 weeks now and u cant get a response on what i said to clarify the matter.

well sam ive seen your new cams working ok in a friend of mines car so they seemed to be spot on now

 

[Tim@TBDevelopments]

sorry what was i meant to be asking? i thought we were done with that. i only forwarded on what people had said anyway. if there not made by crower as you say and just went in for a timing pin setup then they wouldn't be on there database of custom produced cams. but if there was another question you wanted me to ask and clarify please ask?

also did we find out what happened with the lobes on that one guys car? someone said unhardened.

still really want to find a good reliablity with these so i can use them in my own engine.

sorry didn't mean to offend with any replies just putting all the cards on the table and seeing i have contacts at crower its easier to put any rumours to bed by just asking them

Tim

 

[speedvision]

sorry what was i meant to be asking? i thought we were done with that. i only forwarded on what people had said anyway. if there not made by crower as you say and just went in for a timing pin setup then they wouldn't be on there database of custom produced cams. but if there was another question you wanted me to ask and clarify please ask?

also did we find out what happened with the lobes on that one guys car? someone said unhardened.

still really want to find a good reliablity with these so i can use them in my own engine.

sorry didn't mean to offend with any replies just putting all the cards on the table and seeing i have contacts at crower its easier to put any rumours to bed by just asking them

Tim

You were the one who asked crower and got a response that they were not made and i was the one being accused of selling their brand so it would only be decent for you to set the matter straight that indeed what i said was done since u have ur contacts so you can clear my name right?
i understand that u wanted to clear up the rumors but also set the matter right after i pointed it out to you..

i answered your question about the lobe in a previous response on what could be the problem...if unhardened dont u think all of the cams ever installed would wear away then? could be a f--k up on installation for all we know. i dont kno as i was not there..

sam