143.4HP on Hybrid??

[Aidan-G]

get the safc set up and see how it goes

but looking at the hybrid in your garage,it doesnt look like much has been done to it?i could be wrong...whats the spec of it?

and i also saw the previous owner made 181bhp and 150@the wheels with it at .5bar?i dont believe that to be honest..BUT!thats just my opinion,see how it goes when you get it set up properly

 

[Seanmcn]

get the safc set up and see how it goes

but looking at the hybrid in your garage,it doesnt look like much has been done to it?i could be wrong...whats the spec of it?

and i also saw the previous owner made 181bhp and 150@the wheels with it at .5bar?i dont believe that to be honest..BUT!thats just my opinion,see how it goes when you get it set up properly

Hmm :freddy:

How would I know if its a hybrid or not? I see what you mean!

 

[Ted]

very low horsepower. check timing.

 

[Seanmcn]

The car doesn't seem slow at all, It is in a straight line a bit quicker than a civic type r. I know they are heavier and all that but would 143hp take one??

Also a DC5 got rr'd the same day as my car and it only got 160hp?? Aren't they supposed to be 210-220hp on jap fuel??

The Fan was very small because it was a mobile rr.

Would that have anything to to with my result??

 

[Glanza_cl]

simple get it done again at another (non mobile one) then compare.

i has my car on the RR and it didn't make great power at all but i was running so rich it was causing a loss in power.

like advised the fcd and safc on get it mapped at 1bar at a different RR and you should easily see 180-200 out your car

 

[Ted]

try another rolling road then. cheap way to check

 

[kellygt]

The car doesn't seem slow at all, It is in a straight line a bit quicker than a civic type r. I know they are heavier and all that but would 143hp take one??

Also a DC5 got rr'd the same day as my car and it only got 160hp?? Aren't they supposed to be 210-220hp on jap fuel??

The Fan was very small because it was a mobile rr.

Would that have anything to to with my result??

Hi mate your driving a car that was built in 1994 that came from the
factory with 133bhp I am guessing that its still on the original engine
it's 2009 now so a car that old is likely to have lost power over the
years......

 

[Glanza_cl]

but is running a hybrid turbo so should be a tad quicker then that.

at 0.8 bar i would have expected around 160+bhp

 

[Ted]

Hi mate your driving a car that was built in 1994 that came from the
factory with 133bhp I am guessing that its still on the original engine
it's 2009 now so a car that old is likely to have lost power over the
years......

just isnt the case, ive never seen that. a well serviced gt or glanza with good compression will make good power compared to new, maybe just a few down.

 

[kellygt]

but is running a hybrid turbo so should be a tad quicker then that.

at 0.8 bar i would have expected around 160+bhp

He was told it was a hybrid by another guy doesnt mean it is one,
I am guessing that this was at Mad Racing's open day over the weekend
correct me if I'm wrong... If it is a hybrid turbo to reach 160bhp it would
have to be runing about 1 bar with the mods on this car

 

[Glanza_cl]

might have just been the RR, if it were me i would want to take it to another to see what it produces there and compare the two and if it still is low then that might indicate a problem else were.

either way hybrid or not it's easy to get another session on a RR to double check

 

[kellygt]

might have just been the RR, if it were me i would want to take it to another to see what it produces there and compare the two and if it still is low then that might indicate a problem else were.

either way hybrid or not it's easy to get another session on a RR to double check

Its definately not the rolling road as I am a customer of John Allen's
why dont you bring the car down to West Coast Performances garage
and let John look at the car more thoroughly its not fair to blame
the rolling road as the car could have a boost leak or other problems
preventing it from making good figures, as this car was run at an open
day at Mad Racing in Waterford with how many other car's that day
it's not a proper reflection on what West Coast are capable of producing
from there work John has brought my Glanza from 152bhp 148lbs/ft to 176bhp 184lbs/ft......

 

[97'GlanzaVTurbo]

Its definately not the rolling road as I am a customer of John Allen's
why dont you bring the car down to West Coast Performances garage
and let John look at the car more thoroughly its not fair to blame
the rolling road as the car could have a boost leak or other problems
preventing it from making good figures, as this car was run at an open
day at Mad Racing in Waterford with how many other car's that day
it's not a proper reflection on what West Coast are capable of producing
from there work John has brought my Glanza from 152bhp 148lbs/ft to 176bhp 184lbs/ft......

Nobody is trying to blame the rolling road. What they are saying is it would be cheaper to take the car to another rolling road just to test it. If its produces the same power either the Hybrid isnt a hybrid or there is a boost leak.
For a hybrid turbo to make that low a figure something is wrong somewhere simple as that he should be making 160+ easily. On standard CT9 I was making 164BHP with standard manifold and cat in place and also a blow out in the exhaust.
Christy

 

[kellygt]

Nobody is trying to blame the rolling road. What they are saying is it would be cheaper to take the car to another rolling road just to test it. If its produces the same power either the Hybrid isnt a hybrid or there is a boost leak.
For a hybrid turbo to make that low a figure something is wrong somewhere simple as that he should be making 160+ easily. On standard CT9 I was making 164BHP with standard manifold and cat in place and also a blow out in the exhaust.
Christy

My own car is producing 176bhp and 184lbs/ft of torque with a standard
manifold and cat in place but it's unknown if the turbo is a hybrid or not
as it was on it when it came from Japan, there were a few post's on here
already about West Coast Performance's dyno producing low figure's as a loyal customer I am simply standing up for John as he is not a member on here
and it is not good for any person's bussiness when people are saying it might be the rolling road when these dyno's are among the most accurate in the world, not trying to offend anyone and hope I havent.....

 

[97'GlanzaVTurbo]

My own car is producing 176bhp and 184lbs/ft of torque with a standard
manifold and cat in place but it's unknown if the turbo is a hybrid or not
as it was on it when it came from Japan, there were a few post's on here
already about West Coast Performance's dyno producing low figure's as a loyal customer I am simply standing up for John as he is not a member on here
and it is not good for any person's bussiness when people are saying it might be the rolling road when these dyno's are among the most accurate in the world, not trying to offend anyone and hope I havent.....

The last rolling road day I was at used Dyno Dynamic rolling road and it seemed they were pulling figures out of the air. Cars were going on the rollers and making 100BHP down from what they should and on the second run they amazingly pulled out the extra 100BHP they were expecting and others just got really low figures so I wouldnt say that these Dyno's in my experience are the most accurate.
It was Burnside autos who owned the rolling road that day,
I know rolling roads differ but seriously....

 

[Glanza_cl]

I wasn't slating the dyno at all as i have mine dyno'd on a dyno dynamic and there are very good accurate dyno's i was just referring to the fact it was an open day so maybe it wasn't as accurate as it could have been on a private session as the dyno was set up to run multiple cars rather then one... just think it's a good ides to go on it or another again to see if it produces the same.

 

[GTti]

The car doesn't seem slow at all...

Also a DC5 got rr'd the same day as my car and it only got 160hp?? Aren't they supposed to be 210-220hp on jap fuel??

The Fan was very small because it was a mobile rr.

Would that have anything to to with my result??

Yes I wouldn't worry, if the car feels fast then thats all that matters. Perhaps the printout is at the wheels then your figure would be 165 - 170bhp at the flywheel.

You're best bet is to find a local RR and stick to it. A dyno is a tool to measure improvemet.

In the mean time you could go over some basic tests. Make sure you're not loosing boost, leaking components (Intake / exhaust) etc. As I said earlier a boost and AFR graph would clear up alot of problems.

 

[kellygt]

The last rolling road day I was at used Dyno Dynamic rolling road and it seemed they were pulling figures out of the air. Cars were going on the rollers and making 100BHP down from what they should and on the second run they amazingly pulled out the extra 100BHP they were expecting and others just got really low figures so I wouldnt say that these Dyno's in my experience are the most accurate.
It was Burnside autos who owned the rolling road that day,
I know rolling roads differ but seriously....

Its normal for a car to make more power on a second run but not 100bhp
maybe 5 to 15 depending on the car or if the operator has made any alterations to the map or boost setting's, everybodys entitled to there own opinion but I wouldnt trust another dyno....

 

[97'GlanzaVTurbo]

Its normal for a car to make more power on a second run but not 100bhp
maybe 5 to 15 depending on the car or if the operator has made any alterations to the map or boost setting's, everybodys entitled to there own opinion but I wouldnt trust another dyno....

I understand that, and I know if they tweak the map extra they could make more power.
I went to this dyno because I was told it would be very accurate but on the day it was far from it. I dont think one person made anything near what they should and then the same cars making an extra 100BHP on their second run without doing anything to the car he literally started running the dyno straight after the first run and made an extra 100BHP.
Also incase people want to argue that it could have been the cars or the age of them extra there were cars there that made really low figures and they were only a year or so out of factory and making less 100BHP easily.
So this is why I dont really trust these dyno's. I will go again to one for comparison as I have modified the car further. So now I should be putting out more power than my last run so we shall see......:drive:
Christy

 

[Seanmcn]

Ok! thanks for the help.

I will get another rr result with the AFR printout, to see exactly how rich it is running,


Yeah it was at MadRacings open day, Were you there?

I hope it is a Hybrid as I paid E400 for it thinking it was!