Appealing a Fixed Penatly Notice off Police?

Adam_Glanza

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Wrong, if you appeal it will go to court, if found guilty you will receive a larger fine and court costs. IMO not worth it

well i appealed and because i had evidence it never went to court?

do you really think the police want to go to court unless they actually have too?

aslong as you have proof like dan said to back it up uve got a good chance imo.

if you lot like 2 just accept things like this then thats fine but things like this piss me off
 

GTti

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I already knew the tramp lived in there though, he had coprolalia - always heard him shouting "c&^t" etc when he was on his way home.
 

Starlet_Sam

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well i appealed and because i had evidence it never went to court?

do you really think the police want to go to court unless they actually have too?

aslong as you have proof like dan said to back it up uve got a good chance imo.

if you lot like 2 just accept things like this then thats fine but things like this piss me off

But he has no proof! Yeah the records will say he didn't receive or send a text or phone call at that time, but he could have been writing one or changing the track if he was listening to music, or playing a game, or taking a photo of his cock for Kelly. He can't prove he was doing none of this.
 

Adam_Glanza

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furrymuff, if you take that all into account then you could say that about anything to be honest?

"your driving without due care of attention because you took your eye off the road infront of you"

anyone can use petty excuses like that, ok i know you shouldnt really have it in your hands in the first place but in a situation like that its just fucking ridiculous imo. i would contest it personally but if you wanna roll over its cool :p
 

Starlet_Sam

Moderator, Regional Area Reps Supervisor & Gay Car
furrymuff, if you take that all into account then you could say that about anything to be honest?

"your driving without due care of attention because you took your eye off the road infront of you"

anyone can use petty excuses like that, ok i know you shouldnt really have it in your hands in the first place but in a situation like that its just fucking ridiculous imo. i would contest it personally but if you wanna roll over its cool :p


You have to take your eyes off the road ahead to look in the rear view lol.
 

Kelly

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Thanx for all the replies everyone!

Yes very annoyed but as said above its all on the fine line of what they class as using the phone? Very good points have been made above about the fact that you could have been writing a txt and never got to the point of sending or tryin to play game etc etc so it all depends on what the law actually is.

As Elaine pointed it out if they can do u for other things ( i remember the lady and the appl incident) then i guess they will do you for this too.

Its extremley annoying, like said above, the ppl that are at major junctions or roundabouts, busy streets etc and they are on the phone is ridiculous.

Sam the photo would have been for you not me :p

thanx for the input everyone. i guess its better to bite the bullet! 3 points hmmmm ok giving the coppers 60quid makes me angry ha!
 

goldenvtr

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Thanx for all the replies everyone!


thanx for the input everyone. i guess its better to bite the bullet! 3 points hmmmm ok giving the coppers 60quid makes me angry ha!


i think of this the other way round i would rather pay 60£ than have points because its like a 4year embarrasment!
 

Kelly

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Yeh i know was joking they are both annoying.

Especially now his licence is clean lol or at least was! its just worrying to think that they could accuse you of doing things they cant if its just "well i saw you do this....." kinda thing.
 
well i appealed and because i had evidence it never went to court?

do you really think the police want to go to court unless they actually have too?

aslong as you have proof like dan said to back it up uve got a good chance imo.

if you lot like 2 just accept things like this then thats fine but things like this piss me off


What proof has Dan got? He was holding the phone thats enough
 

Jules-B

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doesent matter if you have got a full car licience you still need L plates,Can only ride somthing up to 15 BHP untill you pass a full bike test.The only difference having a full car licience makes is you dont need a cbt.Sorry was wrong you do need a cbt aswell if you passed full car test after feb 2001.

That is wrong!!..

They have changed the system that means that even if you do have a car licence you still have to do your cbt..
Back when adam was 17 it was different..but now, bike and car tests are all completly seperate.
The only time you can ride a bike now with no l plates is when you do your bike test. ie direct access.
Jules
 

goldenvtr

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http://www.nopenaltypoints.co.uk/FixedPenaltyNotice.html


Originally introduced in the UK during the 1950s to act as a deterrent for minor parking infringements early Fixed Penalty Notices (FPNs) were issued by traffic wardens and police officers. Although the issuing body has changed in many cases to local authorities, FPNs are still in use today under provisions outlined by the Road Traffic Act 1991.

There are three different types of Fixed Penalty Notice:


Endorseable
Non-endorseable
Conditional offer
Endorseable
An endorseable fixed penalty notice is one that sees the motorist involved getting penalty points. The FPN will be issued by a police officer directly to the offending driver at the time that the offence takes place. The driver will be expected to give up their driving licence so that it can be endorsed with the 3 point penalty - this can be done at the roadside or at a police station nominated by the motorist, within 7 days of the date of the offence. The driver will also have to pay a £60 fine. Although offences in this category include crossing roads marked with double white lines and 'jumping' red traffic lights, the most common offence is speeding.

Non-endorseable
This is a ticket that won’t leave points on your licence – usually reserved for minor traffic offences such as parking somewhere you shouldn’t. They will usually carry a fine of around £30.

Conditional Offer
Conditional Offers are related to offences picked up and recorded by traffic cameras, usually speeding. Depending on the speed recorded it may be appropriate to make a conditional offer and if so, the registered keeper of the vehicle will receive a Notice of Intended Prosecution through the post. Following receipt of this it is a legal requirement that the keeper provide information on who was driving the car at the time that the offence is alleged to have taken place. The conditional offer allows the offender to stop the chance of further action or prosecution by accepting blame and paying a £60 fine. They will also receive 3 penalty points on their licence. If the speed detected was above the set threshold for cases to be automatically referred to court, then a summons will be issued and a conditional offer will not be made.

Why Fixed Penalty Notices? The idea is that once the motorist admits to the alleged offence they can simply pay the fine and accept the 3 penalty point endorsement on their licence rather than face prosecution. Motorists who have been asked to give up their license for endorsement, should be aware that if the licence is not surrendered as agreed within the 7 day period, then the notice procedure will be stopped and court proceedings will begin - starting with a court summons being issued. What do I do if I don't agree with the charge?

If the motorist disputes the allegations on either legality or the facts surrounding the alleged offence then they are entitled to request a court hearing. There is a period of 28 days when the motorist is allowed to make this request and the 'how to' information can be found on the reverse of the notice when issued.


What Happens if I Don't Pay the Fine?
If the motorist doesn't pay up or ask for a court hearing within the 28 day period, the matter will, in most cases be referred to court. The fine will be increased by 50% and will become an endorseable fine. Other than a statutory declaration, there is no right of appeal once things reach this state and the court will chase you for payment.

Statutory Declaration
When a fine has been registered for an endorseable notice, the motorist is able to go to court and state on oath that:


they were not the person that the notice was issued to, or
that they lodged a request for a court hearing within the 28 days following the alleged offence
In the case of an non-endorsable notice:


that they had no knowledge of the FPN or the Notice to Owner until they received the document for registration of the fine.
that they did not own the vehicle at the time the offence was alleged to have taken place, or
that they lodged a request for a court hearing within the 28 days following the alleged offence
Should the motorist have any issue with the FPN, then they must follow the instructions on the back of the notice and keep the issuing body informed of what is happening at all times. Pretending it isn’t there won’t make it go away and the longer it is left, the worse the consequences will be.
 
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