ct9 hybrid r tdo4l

grum-glanza

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if you want 200 bhp at the wheels you would need a forged engine and a ecu ,good turbo, i have 550cc injectors in my car but heard 460cc are the rite job a manifold, downpipe, exhaust and a good tuner and you should be good to go i have a 5e with a td04L and at 1.2 bar i made 245bhp(fly) i think its around 190-200bhp at the wheels
 

Paul_JJ

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if you want 200 bhp at the wheels you would need a forged engine and a ecu ,good turbo, i have 550cc injectors in my car but heard 460cc are the rite job a manifold, downpipe, exhaust and a good tuner and you should be good to go i have a 5e with a td04L and at 1.2 bar i made 245bhp(fly) i think its around 190-200bhp at the wheels

OK thanks. Didn't realise that the gearbox loss is so high!!! I don't want to forge the engine for sure, cost too much money. So 200 brakes at the fly is about 160 at the wheel?
 
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Rev

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OK thanks. Didn't realise that the gearbox loss is so high!!! I don't want to forge the engine for sure, cost too much money. So 200 brakes at the fly is about 160 at the wheel?

If I remember correctly WHP variance increases more as power goes up , this calculator should help - http://www.mk5cortinaestate.co.uk/calculator4.php Also more transmission loss occurs with auto box but remember the auto limiting factor is usually torque rather than bhp. Posts here say 210ftlb the torque convertor slips and heats up on the auto box. Not sure if their is a bigger convertor available would be nice to have one.

From what I understand the K1200v has been designed to gradually increase torque so as not to stress the gear box. The k24 and I guess td04 will ramp the torque on hard I see the sard K24 turbo site say not for auto but I say bring it on.
 
if you want 200 bhp at the wheels you would need a forged engine and a ecu ,good turbo, i have 550cc injectors in my car but heard 460cc are the rite job a manifold, downpipe, exhaust and a good tuner and you should be good to go i have a 5e with a td04L and at 1.2 bar i made 245bhp(fly) i think its around 190-200bhp at the wheels

Tbf mate that's mr totally true I have been running my td04 at 1.1 bar on a stock engine for well over a year now and not had 1 problem it is okay as long as you let it warm up and cool down properly and make sure u keep it well serviced :)
 

Paul_JJ

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Tbf mate that's mr totally true I have been running my td04 at 1.1 bar on a stock engine for well over a year now and not had 1 problem it is okay as long as you let it warm up and cool down properly and make sure u keep it well serviced :)

It's only a matter of time. You could be lucky and you will be fine for a few years. Some people can do the same and bang -) seen those people before!
 

Guye

Lifer
In Barbados we have no motorways and very few decent open straights. It's about 80% twisty, bumpy, narrow roads. With road conditions like ours the hybrid gives the best balance between response and power. With a good ebc members on this site including myself have achieved spoolup on hybrids from 1100rpm, 10psi while using about 1/8 throttle (18psi max on my current hybrid). If you plan to "run" against others on the highways, the TD04 will work better at the top end. If you want truly nimble response from bend to bend you'll be hard pressed to beat the response of a ct9 or hybrid.
 

Guye

Lifer
seen your car at the airport tho clean stuff

Thanks. To be honest as stated before the cost of a used td04l is far lower than a hybrid and it will work for you. It really comes down to what you want out of the car. I personally opted for all around balance over top rpm power. And yes, I have driven/tried td04l setups also.
 

Guye

Lifer
TD05!!! for the win more power than both

In Barbados a responsive setup serves you better than one aimed at ultimate power at high rpm. Imagine driving on a twisty road where there is always another bend approaching just as you hit 5000rpm max in third gear...I dare say your td05 would struggle to keep up with a tuned and peppy ct9 in those conditions where low-mid range torque come into play (assuming both engines are still 4efte). Feel free to disagree of course.
 
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-cuffy-

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In Barbados we have no motorways and very few decent open straights. It's about 80% twisty, bumpy, narrow roads. With road conditions like ours the hybrid gives the best balance between response and power. With a good ebc members on this site including myself have achieved spoolup on hybrids from 1100rpm, 10psi while using about 1/8 throttle (18psi max on my current hybrid). If you plan to "run" against others on the highways, the TD04 will work better at the top end. If you want truly nimble response from bend to bend you'll be hard pressed to beat the response of a ct9 or hybrid.

totally agree with you dude, id say most hybrids are quicker 0-80mph than td04s and on twisty tight roads the hybrid would walk all over the td04, from some of the power graphs ive seen of td04's here they are only making good power at really high rpm and whats the point in that? ppl are so worried about power figures....
 

Guye

Lifer
the thing is ive seen more bad reviews on ct9 hybrids than td04s on here

Over the years there have been many expensive yet unreliable hybrids which has been a bitter experience for many users. TD04l units are solid once you get a decent used one. I own a TD04l as a backup unit but I've been running my ct9-ct20 hybrid for the last 7 or so years. For our roads I found the low-mid hybrid response works better. If you are on a budget, you'll spend less on a TD04 setup and it will work. I imagine there are those on here who will not be able to understand driving conditions that favor a smaller turbo over a larger unit.
 
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GTwayne

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Looking at where you are and although it may work out more expensive the hybrid will work better and would be a blast down the east coast.
 

GTom TURBO

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Nice to see your still enjoying the car craig :)

TD04 i would say is defo the best setup for the road mate, i would defo go for the race tech kit again mate, Rickys workmanship is second to none.

One word of advice if going down the TD04 route is buy your own second hand turbo and send it to cr turbos for a larger compressor wheel. This gave me great results which were if i remember correctly: 230 on the nose FWHP 193 WHP and 207 ftlbs at the fly, made at only 1 bar of boost!!! full boost was around 3800 in 3rd gear.

Tom
 

omikron

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In Barbados we have no motorways and very few decent open straights. It's about 80% twisty, bumpy, narrow roads. With road conditions like ours the hybrid gives the best balance between response and power. With a good ebc members on this site including myself have achieved spoolup on hybrids from 1100rpm, 10psi while using about 1/8 throttle (18psi max on my current hybrid). If you plan to "run" against others on the highways, the TD04 will work better at the top end. If you want truly nimble response from bend to bend you'll be hard pressed to beat the response of a ct9 or hybrid.

why would one want to spool @ 1100 rpm?
 
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