Duck Shooting.....

scot-ish

Member +
I didnt say all hunters, if you read my post back you will see that I said most hunters. 90% of the lads in my club dont change their chokes or have fixed chokes.

Sorry, when I say slug its more a colloquail term, we call a 1 a slug (as i said above..if you read my post).

Of course the amount and size of pellets change the spread pattern and hence the range. Spread pattern is a function of range!!!! A 2 or a 4 wont spread out as much as 7 or 8, simple as! hence, a 1 is better for long range then an 8 because it maintains a tight spread pattern and hence longer range due too less, yet heavier pellets. Just like an 8 is only good over about 20/30 yards because the pellets spread out more...the futher they get form the gun the more they spread out hence why they are useless for long range..unless you get very very lucky, but that still wouldent take down a bird.

I googled him, very impressive dude. Wouldent mind being on a serious hunt like that!

yeh, hes a nice guy, very very down to earth,

i always looked on it more that, the higher the number of cartridge, more pellets, larger spread. and less pellets, less spread, but the choke is what i use

just out of interest, what are you classing as long range? 60 yards?

where i used to work in scotland, we have loads of irish come over shooting, i used to work on an estate, just outside stranraer, and 60% of the clients wer irish, go mad for inland goose flighting, but im sure they come over more for the piss up lol
 

scot-ish

Member +




wikipedia said:
Shotshells and patterning

Most modern sporting shotguns have interchangeable choke tubes to allow the shooter to change the spread of shot out of the gun. In some cases, it is not practical to do this; the gun might have fixed choke, or a shooter firing at receding targets may want to fire a wide pattern immediately followed by a narrower pattern out of a single barrelled shotgun. The spread of the shot can also be altered by changing the characteristics of the shell.

Narrower patterns

A buffering material, such as granulated plastic, sawdust, or similar material can be mixed with the shot to fill the spaces between the individual pellets. When fired, the buffering material compresses and supports the shot, reducing the deformation the shot pellets experience under the extreme acceleration. Copper plated lead shot, steel, bismuth, and tungsten composite shot all have a hardness greater than that of plain lead shot, and will deform less as well. Reducing the deformation will result in tighter patterns, as the spherical pellets tend to fly straighter.

Wider patterns


Shooting the softest possible shot will result in more shot deformation and a wider pattern. This is often the case with cheap ammunition, as the lead used will have minimal alloying elements and be very soft. Spreader wads are wads that have a small plastic or paper insert in the middle of the shot cup, usually a cylinder or "X" cross-section. When the shot exits the barrel, the insert helps to push the shot out from the center, opening up the pattern. Often these result in inconsistent performance, though modern designs are doing much better than the traditional improvised solutions. Intentionally deformed shot (hammered into ellipsoidal shape) or cubical shot will also result in a wider pattern, much wider than spherical shot, with more consistency than spreader wads. Spreader wads and non-spherical shot are disallowed in some competitions. Hunting loads that use either spreaders or non-spherical shot are usually called "brush loads", and are favored for hunting in areas where dense cover keeps shot distances very short.

:freddy:
 
Last edited:

GT_Irl

Member +

Thanks Dylan.

Scot-ish..read this mate:

Shot sizes
Shotshells are loaded with different sizes of shot depending on the target. For skeet shooting, a small shot such as a # 8 or #9 would be used, because range is short and a high density pattern is desirable. Trap shooting requires longer shots, and so a larger shot, up to #7½ would be desired. For hunting game, the range and the penetration needed to assure a clean kill must both be considered. Shot loses its velocity very quickly due to its low sectional density and ballistic coefficient (see external ballistics). Small shot, like that used for skeet and trap, will have lost all appreciable energy by 100 yards or meters, which is why trap and skeet ranges can be located in relatively close proximity to inhabited areas with negligible risk of injury to those outside the range.

nuff said.
 

scot-ish

Member +
Thanks Dylan.

Scot-ish..read this mate:

Shot sizes
Shotshells are loaded with different sizes of shot depending on the target. For skeet shooting, a small shot such as a # 8 or #9 would be used, because range is short and a high density pattern is desirable. Trap shooting requires longer shots, and so a larger shot, up to #7½ would be desired. For hunting game, the range and the penetration needed to assure a clean kill must both be considered. Shot loses its velocity very quickly due to its low sectional density and ballistic coefficient (see external ballistics). Small shot, like that used for skeet and trap, will have lost all appreciable energy by 100 yards or meters, which is why trap and skeet ranges can be located in relatively close proximity to inhabited areas with negligible risk of injury to those outside the range.

nuff said.

wikepedia is obviously conflicting mate, as read what ive quoted, its exactly as ive said lol
 

scot-ish

Member +
:) draw?:kiss: :haha:

it can be seen that different people look on buying cartridges for different reasons. and thats prob why there are so many different kinds available, claiming to be better than the rest at pattern spread etc.

draw will do this time haha
 

y3Lo

Member +
i wouldnt use 6 on ducks personally mate, bit small, more of a pheasent and pigeon load. try a 4 or similar.
 
Top