F**king knives!

[Craig_GT]

Unfortunately carrying a wheel brace under the seat is illegal - or so i have been told by a traffic cop (classed as an offensive weapon)

"has to be in the boot and have the right size socket on it to fit your wheels."

although being under my site is illegal i do have the right sized socket on it.

 

[adi271087]

think iv started a mass knife carrying chav bashing wit wheel braises lol

 

[rb69]

think iv started a mass knife carrying chav bashing wit wheel braises lol

Nothing wrong with defending your property although the police might think differently.

 

[Watsi88]

Extendable wheel brace FTW! Wouldnt drive about without one handy, far too many pricks about these days! Although knives don't seem to be as common ober here in NI as mainland UK.

 

[glanzadude]

Unfortunately carrying a wheel brace under the seat is illegal - or so i have been told by a traffic cop (classed as an offensive weapon)

"has to be in the boot and have the right size socket on it to fit your wheels."

although being under my site is illegal i do have the right sized socket on it.

That is a great idea with the wheel brace will be doing that,dont want sum cunt making of with my car :shoot:

 

[Texx]

Unfortunately carrying a wheel brace under the seat is illegal - or so i have been told by a traffic cop (classed as an offensive weapon)

"has to be in the boot and have the right size socket on it to fit your wheels."

although being under my site is illegal i do have the right sized socket on it.

http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/l_to_o/offensive_weapons_knives_bladed_and_pointed_articles/#a05

Possession of an Offensive Weapon

Section 1 of the Prevention of Crime Act 1953 prohibits the possession in any public place of an offensive weapon without lawful authority or excuse. (Archbold, 24.106a)

The term 'offensive weapon' is defined as: "any article made or adapted for use to causing injury to the person, or intended by the person having it with him for such use". The courts have been reluctant to find many weapons as falling within the first limb of the definition and reliance should usually be placed upon the second. On that basis, it must be shown that the defendant intended to use the article for causing injury (24-115 Archbold).


Lord Lane, CJ. in R v Simpson (C), (78 Cr.App.R.115), identified three categories of offensive weapons:

• those made for causing injury to the person i.e. offensive per se. For examples of weapons that are offensive per se, see Criminal Justice Act 1988 (Offensive Weapons) Order 1988, (Stones 8-22745) and case law decisions. (Archbold 24-116). The Criminal Justice Act (1988) (Offensive Weapons) (Amendment) Order 2008 came into force on 6th April 2008 with the effect that a sword with a curved blade of 50cm or more (samurai sword), has been added to the schedule to the Criminal Justice Act 1988 (Offensive Weapons) Order 1988;

• those adapted for such a purpose;

• those not so made or adapted, but carried with the intention of causing injury to the person.

In the first two categories, the prosecution does not have to prove that the defendant had the weapon with him for the purpose of inflicting injury: if the jury are sure that the weapon is offensive per se, the defendant will only be acquitted if he establishes lawful authority or reasonable excuse.


Defence

The defendant is entitled to be acquitted if he shows on the balance of probabilities that he had "lawful authority or reasonable excuse" for having the weapon ((Archbold 24-121-122). Where details of a defence are given in interview or in a defence statement, the CPS should consider whether evidence is available to rebut the defence and should liaise with the police if additional enquiries or evidence are necessary.

That suggests to me that keeping a wheel brace or similar under you seat is not illegal as it's intended purpose in that instance is for removing and installing the wheel nuts if required. However if you remove the wheel brace from the vehicle and handle it in an offensive manner then it becomes an offensive weapon being used without any lawful or reasonable excuse.

 

[durmz]

but surely the reason of having it was to remove the wheel nuts, and then under extreme circumstances for self defence it became reasonable? i hate law, its gobbledy gook to me lol

 

[bucketep91]

get 1 of these, they arnt illegall! iv got 1 like this in my car
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Car-Baseball-Bat-Steering-Wheel-Security-Lock-/170476863130?cmd=ViewItem&pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item27b1367e9a

in all honesty you did the right thing mate, at least no1 got hurt

 

[Aidan@EP-styling]

You could keep a cucumber under your seat! I wouldn't fancy a bat over the head with one of them green ones:freddy:

 

[bucketep91]

cucumber idea is actually quite clever. the chavs would think u where an absolute nutter if u jumped out with a cucumber when they had a knife :haha:

 

[AdDaMan]

You could keep a cucumber under your seat! I wouldn't fancy a bat over the head with one of them green ones:freddy:

what other colours you get over there?!

 

[Gryzor]

normally red over here

 

[AdDaMan]

Wtf^^^?!

 

[sam_glanz]

lads lads lads lads lads..

Still at the top of my list would be run the cunt over...

1. It will be VERY painfull for the "wana be bad man"

2. "its will dent my bonnet" i hear you say... True but its an excuse for a carbon one now!!

3. And aslo By changing to a carbon bonnet the "wana be bad man" wont know its you when you drive past him in a wheel chair

lesson 2...

Cucumber? sounds silly but its very very clever! you jump out the car with a cucumber the "wana be bad man" is going to think " haha is this kid for real?"


little dose he no that silly little "CUCUMBER" had been layed up in your kenwood frezzer for the last 48hours, that fucking vegtable is going to feel like a solid oak base ball bat..

 

[Gryzor]

made for it..

 

[eptommi]

@Durmz, Yes mate this was at miami, bought half 10ish:/

Didnt manage to get the number plate, was to busy making sure me and the lads left =[

Loving the idea of the extenable wheel brace! Although whats wrong with a good old fist fight?

 

[sam_glanz]

whats wrong with a good old fist fight? nothing mate, but when some runt is holding a knife at you, its not really good to be a fist fight is it now,

Hence the frozen cucumber! lol

 

[Texx]

Hence the frozen cucumber! lol

A can of WD40 could be another option. Fairly inconspicuous to your average copper, but when required can provide a nasty sting to the eyes of any would be assailant. There's also the optional red straw for an increased firing range, although I'm not so sure if the costume is a necessity.

 

[Gryzor]

I'm sure there's a caption somewhere ..

 

[Meston]

One of those extendable police batons are pretty good like, small enough to just duct tape under your dash and their pretty good for kneecaps as well.