(Touchy Subject) British National Party

[ChrisGT]

On current demographic trends, we, the native British people, will be an ethnic minority in our own country within sixty years.

LOL! Amazing statistic!

We support the re-introduction of corporal punishment for petty criminals and vandals, and the restoration of capital punishment for paedophiles, terrorists and murderers as an option for judges in cases where their guilt is proven beyond dispute, as by DNA evidence or being caught red-handed.

Ah...a nice clear, non-ambiguous policy!

Globalisation, with its export of jobs to the Third World, is bringing ruin and unemployment to British industries and the communities that depend on them.

Yeah...who needs globalisation! Oh wait! WE DO!

We will see to it that no money is given in foreign aid while our own hospitals are short of beds and the staff to run them.

Ah...that's nice! I'm sure other countries will follow suit and think highly of Britain!

Successive cuts in defence spending have left Britain’s armed forces perilously weak. We will boost Britain’s armed forces to ensure that they are able to deal with any emergency, and defend our homeland and our independence.

Yeah, that's money well spent - we'll withdraw from foreign conflicts like Iraq/Afghanistan, leave NATO yet pump loads of money into our military! Great thinking!

Bunch of fuckin' idiots!!!!

 

[gv1.3]

GV1.3 a lot of people have different views on the bnp and what they are about, in this thread and a previous thread about the bnp you are stateing what you think are facts but its actually what you have read up on the same as us all basically but anytime some1 voices an opinion you shoot them down and think what ever you say is gospel as you did on the other thread too. thats your opinion and i respect it, but because that is what you think doesent mean every1 else is wrong and thats the way your making it out

I respect everyones opinion, honestly. However I deal in facts and not speculation... or at least if what you say is not based upon fact then say so.

Statements made by the likes of the guy who lied about his personal experience saying "illegal immigrants" regarding Polish people is total bullshit.

If anyone has a reason to vote BNP or knows anything more than their policy on immigration I would be glad to hear it. Based upon what I have researched about them they seem to have a simplistic view on immigration and their ideological view on self sufficiency shows the extent of their economic policy.

I do not want to shoot anyone down, that is not my intent at all. But if people come on saying that the BNP are going to change the UK and make it like Australia or say that illegal immigrants are the cause of the issues in the UK then yes I think that deserves correcting or at least deserves further elaboration on the part of the poster.

the bnp arent manipulating anyone, they are telling how it is and people are begining to listen after puting up with the shit for years. they are the only party who have the balls to say anything on the situation of people coming over here and doing exactly as they want and getting away with it. this country is in a complete mess and it doesnt matter who is running it wether its bnp, labour or any1 else they are all promising us they can do this and do that and it never happens and it never will. i give up my right to vote because there is no one worth voting for. but it annoys me how the bnp are portrayed as thugs , nazis and criminals. They are a legitimate party but no one gives them a chance because they presume they are a racist party because there are racists followers that most bnp members are not proud of.

you say no one will give them a chance and you say they are a legitimate party.. in the same post you refer to their stance on immigration.

A political party is more than just its policy on immigration. The BNP are relying solely on this fact to drum up support. They are like a band with one song... if they spoke about anything other than immigrants perhaps they could be taken seriously but as it stands they are a one trick pony.

I am sorry if you see this as me attacking your opinion... I am merely pointing out that everyone voting BNP says the same thing... "immigration"..... people who vote for a party just because of their policy on immigration are in for a shock if they ever get in to power.##

EDIT: also to deny that the BNP has close relations to nazi ideals is to be blind... it is like denying that hatred of the west is being spread in mosques throughout our countries. This statement may anger some but the evidence is there to show it is true. Dont shoot me I am not the one spreading the hatred. I have no hatred toward anyone but I do believe radical groups need to be dealt with. Even if you say "it is a small few who give everyone a bad name" .... well then let the community they belong to deal with them! because if their own community does not deal with them then they agree with them and if they agree with them then it is not just a small few...

 

[sacodetoro]

My view irrespective of the BNP's views are that they are idiots and as such couldn't run th day to day issues of the government.

Their policies are simplistic and as such some are easy to agree with, however their policies being simplistic isn't a good thing, they get voted in without anybody REALLY knowing about their ability to run or contribute in a positive way towards the running of the country.

We all know just saying no all the time gets you fucking nowhere.

Atm moment our immigration policies are pointless due to EU membership.

AFAIK any idiot with an EU member state can just bomb over and stay as long as they like with their kids which makes them automatically entitled to housing etc (which shows the generous nature of us as a country)
This can cause problems etc.

My view is that we should remove ourselves from the EU but for the right reasons.
We pump all this money into the EU so that there is a free trade forum, thats the main reason! This is supposed to help our economy etc etc
I don't have exact figures but I highly doubt that the UK gets £70million (how much the UK gives EU per day afaik) a day from the other countries in trade due to this "forum".
A vast majority of our products are made in China, we don't have a problem trading with them without all this EU balls.

This doesn't mean we don't want people from the EU all it means is they have to apply for a visa. And we could just expand our current visa system to deal with the higher no. of applications

 

[gv1.3]

My view irrespective of the BNP's views are that they are idiots and as such couldn't run th day to day issues of the government.

Their policies are simplistic and as such some are easy to agree with, however their policies being simplistic isn't a good thing, they get voted in without anybody REALLY knowing about their ability to run or contribute in a positive way towards the running of the country.

We all know just saying no all the time gets you fucking nowhere.

Atm moment our immigration policies are pointless due to EU membership.

AFAIK any idiot with an EU member state can just bomb over and stay as long as they like with their kids which makes them automatically entitled to housing etc (which shows the generous nature of us as a country)
This can cause problems etc.

My view is that we should remove ourselves from the EU but for the right reasons.
We pump all this money into the EU so that there is a free trade forum, thats the main reason! This is supposed to help our economy etc etc
I don't have exact figures but I highly doubt that the UK gets £70million (how much the UK gives EU per day afaik) a day from the other countries in trade due to this "forum".
A vast majority of our products are made in China, we don't have a problem trading with them without all this EU balls.

This doesn't mean we don't want people from the EU all it means is they have to apply for a visa. And we could just expand our current visa system to deal with the higher no. of applications

agree with everything you have said. People will probably refer to you as anti EU but I totally agree with you.

The UK gets a pretty shit deal from being in Europe and is large enough to stand on its own. This would allow you guys to dictate your own, more stringent, immigration laws without having to resort to BNP extreme measures.

The trouble is though that if the UK removed itself from the EU it might find itself isolated from the rest of Europe which would see it having to rely more on its Asian/American relations. With America in such a mess and China kind of becoming so dominant it could be a dodgy position.

 

[lingl9z]

My view irrespective of the BNP's views are that they are idiots and as such couldn't run th day to day issues of the government.

Their policies are simplistic and as such some are easy to agree with, however their policies being simplistic isn't a good thing, they get voted in without anybody REALLY knowing about their ability to run or contribute in a positive way towards the running of the country.

We all know just saying no all the time gets you fucking nowhere.

Atm moment our immigration policies are pointless due to EU membership.

AFAIK any idiot with an EU member state can just bomb over and stay as long as they like with their kids which makes them automatically entitled to housing etc (which shows the generous nature of us as a country)
This can cause problems etc.

My view is that we should remove ourselves from the EU but for the right reasons.
We pump all this money into the EU so that there is a free trade forum, thats the main reason! This is supposed to help our economy etc etc
I don't have exact figures but I highly doubt that the UK gets £70million (how much the UK gives EU per day afaik) a day from the other countries in trade due to this "forum".
A vast majority of our products are made in China, we don't have a problem trading with them without all this EU balls.

This doesn't mean we don't want people from the EU all it means is they have to apply for a visa. And we could just expand our current visa system to deal with the higher no. of applications

All very true and to my exact beliefs! good to see someone that knows what there talking about

 

[Iain@CRD]

Im voting BNP for sure.

In my eyes, BNP are saying publically what the members of the public and UK residents have been thinking now for a long time.

 

[GTti]

I have nothing to say here, I have no care for the BNP. The Labour party and Gordon Brown are the most equipped to deal with the current economic crisis in this country.

They are the party whom factually are most likely to aid the vast majority of people (British people), over the next couple of years.

It's a shame we keep seeing these expense farces and so fourth in the media, please just let them get on with the job.

 

[sacodetoro]

agree with everything you have said. People will probably refer to you as anti EU but I totally agree with you.

The UK gets a pretty shit deal from being in Europe and is large enough to stand on its own. This would allow you guys to dictate your own, more stringent, immigration laws without having to resort to BNP extreme measures.

The trouble is though that if the UK removed itself from the EU it might find itself isolated from the rest of Europe which would see it having to rely more on its Asian/American relations. With America in such a mess and China kind of becoming so dominant it could be a dodgy position.

You're right about the stance in terms of World Politics. The ideal would be changing the terms of our membership but that would be having our cake and eating it too as they say.
In the EU with a population of 50million plus we are still quite a small fish unfortunatley.

 

[bucketep91]

I respect everyones opinion, honestly. However I deal in facts and not speculation... or at least if what you say is not based upon fact then say so.

Statements made by the likes of the guy who lied about his personal experience saying "illegal immigrants" regarding Polish people is total bullshit.

If anyone has a reason to vote BNP or knows anything more than their policy on immigration I would be glad to hear it. Based upon what I have researched about them they seem to have a simplistic view on immigration and their ideological view on self sufficiency shows the extent of their economic policy.

I do not want to shoot anyone down, that is not my intent at all. But if people come on saying that the BNP are going to change the UK and make it like Australia or say that illegal immigrants are the cause of the issues in the UK then yes I think that deserves correcting or at least deserves further elaboration on the part of the poster.



you say no one will give them a chance and you say they are a legitimate party.. in the same post you refer to their stance on immigration.

A political party is more than just its policy on immigration. The BNP are relying solely on this fact to drum up support. They are like a band with one song... if they spoke about anything other than immigrants perhaps they could be taken seriously but as it stands they are a one trick pony.

I am sorry if you see this as me attacking your opinion... I am merely pointing out that everyone voting BNP says the same thing... "immigration"..... people who vote for a party just because of their policy on immigration are in for a shock if they ever get in to power.##

EDIT: also to deny that the BNP has close relations to nazi ideals is to be blind... it is like denying that hatred of the west is being spread in mosques throughout our countries. This statement may anger some but the evidence is there to show it is true. Dont shoot me I am not the one spreading the hatred. I have no hatred toward anyone but I do believe radical groups need to be dealt with. Even if you say "it is a small few who give everyone a bad name" .... well then let the community they belong to deal with them! because if their own community does not deal with them then they agree with them and if they agree with them then it is not just a small few...

when i quoted the thing about imigration i was saying they are the only party who have the ballsto say anything about it because no one else will dare to adress it because it is a massive problem and one that has to be dealt with but i have been saying throughout this thread that is not all the bnp are about, as i said my uncle is an mp for the bnp and he does not have a racist bone in his body, the things i have heard from him are fact( or at least i believe it is) what you have researched is what other people have told you about it or written about and you can make your own assumptions from there but as far as im concerned the bnp have a bad reputation because of the bad media they recieve, they arnt as bad as people make out. As i said in 1 of my last posts i wont be voting for the bnp or any other bullshit party because they all want to fuck us over some way but it annoys me when the bnp are slated so badly by people who know nothing about it( im not refering to you gv1.3) but the thing that winds me up the most are the people who support it when they know fuck all about it.

this is a dangerous thread and can cause offence to a lot of people. tggt is a friendly place and every1 on here would help u out in a min but when a thread like thispops uup we are at each others throats


EDIT: where is the connection between the bnp and nazi's thats an extreme comparison right there m8, my uncle and many of his friends are not nazi's

 

[gv1.3]

EDIT: where is the connection between the bnp and nazi's thats an extreme comparison right there m8, my uncle and many of his friends are not nazi's

I never said anyone was a nazi... some of their ideas, comments (from their own mouths not stuff I have read or been told but actual interviews) and the general rhetoric is comparable. Also the method of picking one subject/issue and grabbing support from society but keeping the rest of your policies low profile is also comparable.

I also notice the questions I posted earlier on in this thread have not been tackled by anyone.... not specifically you but some people who said in this thread that they support the BNP.

Also if this discussion was about the Iranian government or Sinn Fein I would be equally critical and willing to discuss.

 

[stuart]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8115630.stm

Suprisingly this just got posted up on BBC website.

 

[stuart]

Very first post...

I know who I'll be potentially voting for, I'm getting sick of being shat on in my own country. Better off pissing in the wind.

You've gone under the assumption, that because I've opened this thread - I'm voting BNP correct?

sorry Stuart I think you are very misguided infact I think you are totally delusional if you think the BNP will turn the UK in to a country like Australia.

Your comments in your first post are typical of the hysteria that plagues todays society with regard to immigrants. Sure Polish people and any other race of people will commit crimes... does that mean we close the door to everyone and let nobody in to our countries?

Its not plaguing the society as you put it, its what more and more people are thinking and actually saying nowadays. The question is asked above is a little silly really don't you think? As with the previous posts, if people can offer a skill/trade they are more than welcome to live/work here, but purely coming across for the free healthcare, the free government money that they love to give them....

If I go out in Dublin ANY weekend there are lads from England falling around the streets puking everywhere and causing trouble... should we ban all people from the UK from coming to Ireland?

Again, another question that really isn't adding to anything

The BNP put out these highly simplistic views and very simplistic solutions without any explanation on how they propose to sustain the UK once they have shored up the boarders and kicked out all the immigrants. Try to broaden your view rather than just concentrate on the little picture. If you are up for voting for these idiots and obviously felt so drawn to them that you chose to open a thread on the matter flesh out your opinion a bit more and do me the service of answering these questions for me... I am willing to bet that you cannot... but I am open to you proving me wrong.

I have never said I am voting for the BNP, I made the thread purely to see other peoples opinions. I agree with some of their views, same as I agree with some of the Tories, some of the LibDems. You seem to have it set in stone that I've dotted the I's and crossed the T's that I'm all in favour of this Nazi party as you seem to like putting it. I'll happily answer them, to which I know you'll reply but do remember it is my opinion. I won't drag up other threads but I could probably name a few where I'd like you to broaden your views, but I won't as that would be me just being bitch and I love you really.

1)When you get rid of all of these immigrants and prevent other nationalities coming to the UK what are you going to do when the WORLD imposes sanctions against UK residents traveling abroad?

Do people from Aus/Canada/France still travel abroad? Has the WORLD imposed anything to prevent them from traveling around the world?

2)When the UK stops importing anything from anywhere what will the UK do when the world imposes trade sanctions on the UK and millions are unemployed because you cannot export anything?

I have not once said I agree with this, again, you've just tarred me with the brush that I'm all for BNP every single policy and I'm 100% going to vote for them.... and shave my head. No.

3)Are you not in the slightest bit worried that the BNP share a lot of their views with the nazi party that started off disliking some minority groups and then went on to attempt to wipe out millions of people?

Is there not another 'group' (I said group as I know it will cause a rucus if I put what I mean, no offence intended) that also dislike minority groups? I think you created a thread not long back which also ended up people jumping down other peoples throat, is this not the same thing - To which you also had a very strong opinion.

4)What is the BNP policy to deal with the UK natives that sponge off the state and claim long term benefits with no intention of going to work?

That is a completely difference kettle of fish, I'm sure every party has this on the back burner, what they want to do about it doesn't concern me. Every parties will probably, I say probably becuase to be honest I've not looked into it, will more than likely be the same. Or are you suggesting that the BNP has something radical to do?

 

[kirky1]

bottom line is who ever we vote in there probably just going to fuck the country up even more any way so theres not much point arguing about it. get out while u can i say before it all turns to chaos.

 

[sacodetoro]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8115630.stm

Suprisingly this just got posted up on BBC website.

Many were referred too late in the asylum process and had laid down roots, enrolled their children in schools and had established a routine of normal life, it said.

As a result, they were allowed to return to the community.

Its pretty ridiculous that it doesn't matter whether your asylum is granted or denied you still get allowed to stay, sort of makes having the system pointless.
Failed asylum seekers shouldn't be allowed to

go home of their own accord

They should be put on a plane back to there respective country within a week and told not to come back

 

[gv1.3]

Very first post...



You've gone under the assumption, that because I've opened this thread - I'm voting BNP correct?



Its not plaguing the society as you put it, its what more and more people are thinking and actually saying nowadays. The question is asked above is a little silly really don't you think? As with the previous posts, if people can offer a skill/trade they are more than welcome to live/work here, but purely coming across for the free healthcare, the free government money that they love to give them....

But they wont be welcomed if the BNP are in power. Your thread was about the BNP so lets stick to their policies not some that are in your head


Again, another question that really isn't adding to anything

I was using it as an example to show that yes some people come to countries and act in an irresponsible way but should we ban all people coming from those countries because of a few?



I have never said I am voting for the BNP, I made the thread purely to see other peoples opinions. I agree with some of their views, same as I agree with some of the Tories, some of the LibDems. You seem to have it set in stone that I've dotted the I's and crossed the T's that I'm all in favour of this Nazi party as you seem to like putting it. I'll happily answer them, to which I know you'll reply but do remember it is my opinion. I won't drag up other threads but I could probably name a few where I'd like you to broaden your views, but I won't as that would be me just being bitch and I love you really.

Drag them up my man... I am happy to elaborate if you want me to


Do people from Aus/Canada/France still travel abroad? Has the WORLD imposed anything to prevent them from traveling around the world?

Are the BNP in power in those countries? NO are their policies as extreme as the BNP's? NO.... my question to you was relating to if the BNP were in power and did things the way they want to... the BNP are not in power in Australia or France so your comparison is not legitimate.


I have not once said I agree with this, again, you've just tarred me with the brush that I'm all for BNP every single policy and I'm 100% going to vote for them.... and shave my head. No.



Is there not another 'group' (I said group as I know it will cause a rucus if I put what I mean, no offence intended) that also dislike minority groups? I think you created a thread not long back which also ended up people jumping down other peoples throat, is this not the same thing - To which you also had a very strong opinion.

Totally... there are loads of them... does it make it acceptable that there are groups out there that hate on others just because there is more than one group?? NO Your thread was about the BNP... lets stick to them

That is a completely difference kettle of fish, I'm sure every party has this on the back burner, what they want to do about it doesn't concern me. Every parties will probably, I say probably becuase to be honest I've not looked into it, will more than likely be the same. Or are you suggesting that the BNP has something radical to do?

How is different? It shows that the BNP are not interested int he economic effects that immigration is having otherwise they would be interested in the economy in general. If they were so interested in fixing issues with spongers would they not have a defined policy on dealing with the UK's huge number of welfare spongers? or is acceptable to sponge off the country if you are white and British?

Replies above in bold.

 

[cantbassed]

There must be a very good reason why some employers will not employ people who would vote for the BNP. if the BNP came into power i would more than likely loose my job as i personally dont agree with there views!

 

[richglanzav]

i honestly aint gna post up my views on the BNP, i agree with them in someways but strongly disagree in others. but i gta say i am also sick of being shat upon in my own country with regards to taxes, people who live off the state etc i could go on all day and write an essay but i wont.

my overall view is that im shocked at how bad of a job gordon brown and his labour government are doing at running this country. apsolutely dreadful. and the british public are getting so annoyed with things now, that i believe the BNP's votes will come a lot from people who may not even agree with them wholeheartedly if hardly at all in some of their policies, but are still willing to vote them in to clear up the shitheap of debt, crime, illegal immigrants, etc etc (list goes on and onnnnn) that gordon brown and labour has left this country in.

 

[GTti]

...my overall view is that im shocked at how bad of a job gordon brown and his labour government are doing at running this country. apsolutely dreadful. and the british public are getting so annoyed with things now.

What makes you think they're doing a bad job?

 

[ChrisGT]

What makes you think they're doing a bad job?

Duh!!!! He single handedly brought us into a recession!

 

[jodielocks]

Duh!!!! He single handedly brought us into a recession!

The powers that be knew we were heading into a recession years ago, before he became the prime minister. That had nothing to do with the political parties but with the banks and financial institutions - they were the ones that caused it.