Aintree 2010
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Craig_GT
Lifer
i wouldnt go each way for nothing less than 12-1 pretty pointless otherwise imo, had a good day laying against the favourites didnt touch big bucks and iam glad, betting against imperial commander made a nice profit for me
My logic is if its 4/1 and place price is quarter the odds, if its placed you get money back.
if its 5/1 and place price is fifth the odds, if its placed you get your money back.
so not all that pointless
means your places are covered and you get money back if it doesnt win.
Craig_GT
Lifer
not a bad day overall, only one favourite won all day i think which is why i pick out ew bets
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D1v
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look at it this way you put 10 each way at 5-1, your paying £10 just to get £12.50 back lol to me thats pointless and thats not to say its going to get placed tidal bay being a gd example today, also your eating into the profit if it does indeed win, fair enough if ur on a really tight budget and you cant afford to lose at all but then if that was my case i wouldnt bet, end of the day each to there own
Craig_GT
Lifer
look at it this way you put 10 each way at 5-1, your paying £10 just to get £12.50 back lol to me thats pointless and thats not to say its going to get placed tidal bay being a gd example today, also your eating into the profit if it does indeed win, fair enough if ur on a really tight budget and you cant afford to lose at all but then if that was my case i wouldnt bet, end of the day each to there own
if you put it all on the nose in big races, you are more likely to loose.. look at todays races, one fav won who was odds of 2/7 which imo is way to short to gamble on.
whereas my ew places and the win today more than doubled my money i outlayed this morning.
its nothin to do with a budget, its to do with strategy and a diff style of betting.
your example above shows £12.5 from a place.. still profit. and if you had it on the nose and it was placed, you would have had nothing back, therefore down and no profit.
as you say, each to their own. just a diff style of betting which pays more at big festivals with plenty runners in my experience
and of course.. this is my opinion
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scot-ish
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if you put it all on the nose in big races, you are more likely to loose.. look at todays races, one fav won who was odds of 2/7 which imo is way to short to gamble on.
whereas my ew places and the win today more than doubled my money i outlayed this morning.
its nothin to do with a budget, its to do with strategy and a diff style of betting.
your example above shows £12.5 from a place.. still profit. and if you had it on the nose and it was placed, you would have had nothing back, therefore down and no profit.
as you say, each to their own. just a diff style of betting which pays more at big festivals with plenty runners in my experience
and of course.. this is my opinion
its how i bet aswel, easiest way to profit. more of a chance of winning, altho not always gunna win huge profits, but its still profits.
Craig_GT
Lifer
D1v
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i agree its defo the way to do things in big races were the outcome is more often than not unexpected no argument there i just cant see the point in doing it with low odd bets, you kinda contradict yourself by saying you wouldnt touch big bucks the odds were "to short" well £10 at 13/10 would have got you £13 that same £10 out of a £20 each way at 5-1 is only getting you £12.50 you may say a 5-1 horse is more likely to get placed than a 13/10 is to win well yes possibly but you only have to look at tidal bay and Me Voici today to see thats not always the case, at end of the day its a gamble everyone has there own ways, i dont actually bet any of those ways in the big races i prefer to lay against the favourites its a bit more of a risk but the rewards make it worth while and you said urself how many favourites won today.
D1v
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well according to sporting life and bbc sport it finished at 13/10 and i just lol "2/7 is not worth touching" 5-1 each way is near enough evens :haha: my point is putting a £10 to get 2.50 profit isnt worth it and it only gets worse the higher you go say you bet 50 each way on a 5-1 you have bet £100 if it comes placed you get £62.50 back so you would be at a loss lol it just doesnt make sense to me but gd luck to you.
Craig_GT
Lifer
http://horses.sportinglife.com/Racecards/0,12495,364720,00.html
it was 3/10.. was 2/7 earlier, either way it is still odds on. unlike your "13/10" :haha:
if you put £50 each way on a horse @ 5/1 (place being 1/4 the odds) and it comes in placed you get £62.50 plus your stake back (a total of £112.50) making a profit of £12.50 so its not worse than £2.50
have a look here, it may help you: http://www.free-bet-calculator.co.uk/
Craig_GT
Lifer
Yeah you get the stake back, hence why if its 4/1 and the place price is 1/4 odds you get your cash back and same if its 5/1 and place is 1/5 the odds.
its basically a cover if it doesnt win but places, thats all im pointing out
the £50 was an example you brought into the equation, i never said id bet that lol
its basically a cover if it doesnt win but places, thats all im pointing out
the £50 was an example you brought into the equation, i never said id bet that lol
gv1.3
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always have a cover! If I am betting I always try to cover a potential loss with an even money bet on something that is close to 50/50.
If I am betting a straight win on a team and laying 50 quid on it I will put an even money bet of 25 on something like last points scored in a basketball match being a three pointer.
If the 50 quid bet dies you should make your money back on the 25. If the 25 dies and the 50 comes in your profits are down but you are still making a profit. If both come in you're buying some new shoes
If I am betting a straight win on a team and laying 50 quid on it I will put an even money bet of 25 on something like last points scored in a basketball match being a three pointer.
If the 50 quid bet dies you should make your money back on the 25. If the 25 dies and the 50 comes in your profits are down but you are still making a profit. If both come in you're buying some new shoes
Craig_GT
Lifer
always have a cover! If I am betting I always try to cover a potential loss with an even money bet on something that is close to 50/50.
If I am betting a straight win on a team and laying 50 quid on it I will put an even money bet of 25 on something like last points scored in a basketball match being a three pointer.
If the 50 quid bet dies you should make your money back on the 25. If the 25 dies and the 50 comes in your profits are down but you are still making a profit. If both come in you're buying some new shoes
Thats my strategy cover what you can with the ew, doesnt always pay big but more likely to pay something (maybe only small profit or money back) but better than nothing.
gv1.3
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Not a huge profit but bet big is my strategy. Used to start with 30 quid and then gamble everything I made off the 30 quid. By the third game of the night I could have 300 quid and as long as it was profit I didnt treat it like real money. Biggest win in a night was 840euro out of 30. Biggest bet in a night was 375euro on a game and I lost... whoops.
Actually just talking about it now I feel like putting a gamble on something. I can really see how easy people develop a gambling addiction, nothing like a big win
Actually just talking about it now I feel like putting a gamble on something. I can really see how easy people develop a gambling addiction, nothing like a big win
Craig_GT
Lifer
see its 25/1.. that'd be a nice pay out!
Craig_GT
Lifer
Well another day of Aintree :beer:
Heres todays selections from me:
Aintree -
2:00 - ew on General Miller @ 12/1 (place is 1/5 odds 1-3)
2:35 - ew on Song Sung Blue @ 20/1 (place is 1/5 odds 1-3)
3:10 - ew on Albertas Run @ 8/1 and ew on Oh Crick @ 25/1 (place is 1/4 odds 1-3)
3:45 - ew on Offshore Account @ 9/1 and ew Panjo Bere @ 25/1 (place is 1/4 odds 1-4)
4:20 - ew on Chamirey @ 11/1 and ew on Cannington Brook @ 25/1 (place is 1/4 odds 1-3)
4:55 - ew on According To Pete @ 16/1 (place is 1/4 odds 1-4)
Again, not tips. just my personal selections! hope they pay aswell as yesterdays selections!
Heres todays selections from me:
Aintree -
2:00 - ew on General Miller @ 12/1 (place is 1/5 odds 1-3)
2:35 - ew on Song Sung Blue @ 20/1 (place is 1/5 odds 1-3)
3:10 - ew on Albertas Run @ 8/1 and ew on Oh Crick @ 25/1 (place is 1/4 odds 1-3)
3:45 - ew on Offshore Account @ 9/1 and ew Panjo Bere @ 25/1 (place is 1/4 odds 1-4)
4:20 - ew on Chamirey @ 11/1 and ew on Cannington Brook @ 25/1 (place is 1/4 odds 1-3)
4:55 - ew on According To Pete @ 16/1 (place is 1/4 odds 1-4)
Again, not tips. just my personal selections! hope they pay aswell as yesterdays selections!