blow thru or draw thru?

hybrid_G4E

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i think all of us is using blow thru system, meaning throttle body is just after intercooler, but before intake plenum.

but will you take a look @ draw thru systems utilized by F1 teams (and some turbo bikes fer that matter)

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Try put your hand in front of a vacuum cleaners nozzle. Notice it will rev higher. That is because there is no mass, nothing, to suck. This is the reason why the throttle is positioned there, close the intake and you take away air from the turbo blades so the blades would spin easier and slow down less when the throttle is closed then you have less turbo lag. It also makes the turbo spin faster when the throttle is closed compared to the usual set up. You also won't need those annoying blow off valves. Problem with this set up is is creates a lot of vacuum when the throttle is suddenly shut, so much vacuum that if you have the wrong bearing set-up, it will suck oil from the bearings.

Eliminating the butterfly and it's shaft from the intake tract reduces turbulance and a major restriction. Here, with the throttle outside of the turbo, the pressurized air has no restriction other than the intercooler.
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makes sense? :p

just sharing. not that i'm gonna try it tho. :p
 

artmull

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Top pic is of the ultra secret BMW 1.5 Turbo F1 engine circa 1983/84 which put out anywhere from 1000HP to 1200HP depending on the chip used. They ran this engine on a rolling road that maxed out at 1200HP therefore as the story goes they have no idea how much power the engine made. That is all the info available. It was on a website on the 'net that was taken down.
 

Sigma

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Top mounted TD04, throttle body on the side rid the throttle body off the side of the plenum.

It's a thought, would take some serious doing.
 
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