Gizzmo EBC installation query....

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ktl

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read here - http://www.lancerregister.com/showthread.php?t=295182

(13) When you are happy with the pressure, press and hold the bottom button and enter the "Gain" setting menu. Gain is How hard/fast the boost is brought in. It should NEVER be higher than duty cycle. In fact we have found the best setting is below 10. If gain is too high the boost will either overshoot, or the maximum stable (Target) boost will increase every time you drive it!


Grant is gizzmo i believe or there salesman.
 
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ktl

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So you managed to raise the boost up ? Is the boost holding ? are you aware of any leaks ? Cause at 55 thats more like 1.3bar.

for 1-1.1bar thats more like 40ish area i think i had mine set to.

something not right.
 
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churcherj

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ktl said:
So you managed to raise the boost up ? Is the boost holding ? are you aware of any leaks ? Cause at 55 thats more like 1.3bar.

for 1-1.1bar thats more like 40ish area i think i had mine set to.

something not right.
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u said u were running external wastegate tho didnt you? that means the spring could be alot stronger, so off the external wastegate spring it could be 0.8 bar minium, where as mine is 0.4 off the actuator....its holding boost spot on, but does seem like a high duty, there is no leaks whatsoever ino for a fact. i seem to get full boost abit later aswell, just after 4k on a td04, whereas before i got it around 3800 or a tad less...any ideas bud? rep'd btw :)
 
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ktl

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im trying my best mate, but the duty you have set should make you over 1 bar easily mate. I was using the gizzmo with my tongs turbo and around 1-1.1bar was duty around 45. What was you getting before fitting the EBC ? Was the EBC brand new when brought ?
 
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churcherj

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ktl said:
im trying my best mate, but the duty you have set should make you over 1 bar easily mate. I was using the gizzmo with my tongs turbo and around 1-1.1bar was duty around 45. What was you getting before fitting the EBC ? Was the EBC brand new when brought ?
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yeino you are i appreciate the help fella :) well i was using a turbosmart boost tee, that made 0.6/7 around 3800 but thats a manual device. I Pm'd ricky at racetech and he said with internal wastegates it normally take alot longer to up boost, he said u need to set it to 40-50 duty before it does anything, but after that each percent increase should increase boost alot more, it seems to be that way to me. ive fiddled with the gain, thats set to around 40 and in 5th with my foot down i get full boost so 0.6 ive set it too by around 3600 which is good and no spiking :) seems to hold boost spot on
 
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ktl

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hmm just wierd because i had a ct9 hybrid and at duty 47 i was hitting 1.1bar

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churcherj

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ktl said:
hmm just wierd because i had a ct9 hybrid and at duty 47 i was hitting 1.1bar

something not right
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ye it does seem weired that duty set to like 50 is only making 0.61 bar, but im not really sure, it must be working as it increases/holds boost fine mate, strange! but like i was told internal wastegates may take longer to increase boost, were u running an externally gated ct9 hybrid?
 
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jayc-glanza17

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on the gizzmo as i have advised eric(ktl), 50 in this weather is where it should be tested, then using gain bring the boost/spool in earlier, then adjust it acodrdinly for spikes etc.
also use spike settings etc to help eliminate spike/creep, ive also got different settings for different weather as well, so first two are cold like now, and three is race, and fourth is summer and when hooing it on track with my tuner and me adjusting setings.
 
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churcherj

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jayc-glanza17 said:
on the gizzmo as i have advised eric(ktl), 50 in this weather is where it should be tested, then using gain bring the boost/spool in earlier, then adjust it acodrdinly for spikes etc.
also use spike settings etc to help eliminate spike/creep, ive also got different settings for different weather as well, so first two are cold like now, and three is race, and fourth is summer and when hooing it on track with my tuner and me adjusting setings.
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ok mate thanks for the info, the duty is set to 50 now and gain 40 and raising it slightly each time to bring in boost faster etc, mine doesnt have the spike settings as its the original IBC not the MS-IBC. doesnt seem to spike much tho, im only playing around with it for now, all the settings will be adjusted when my car gets mapped :) rep'd
 
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jayc-glanza17

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add duty before gain mate, because it may initially spool to ur desired boost, but may drop off a bit top end.
set duty to 55-60 with gain set to ten or lower and see what your reading.
then adjust duty to get ur desired boost level, then adjust gain for better spool.
 
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churcherj

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jayc-glanza17 said:
add duty before gain mate, because it may initially spool to ur desired boost, but may drop off a bit top end.
set duty to 55-60 with gain set to ten or lower and see what your reading.
then adjust duty to get ur desired boost level, then adjust gain for better spool.
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ye ive set my duty to 50 and its reading 0.61 bar which is in the region where i want it, but seemed to hit full boost quite late like 4000rpm, so ive upped the gain gradually and now around 40, that does seem quite high still tho? i dont wana up the duty more as ive reached my desired boost, but want it to hit boost earlier....obviously i cant go over 50 gain as the gain shouldnt be higher than duty right mate?
 
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jayc-glanza17 said:
yh thats right matey, usually gain i see on these is in the region of 40 or tad lower.
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ok mate, thanks for all your help! gona keep it at 40 so i dont creep too much when its cold, just a quick question, if i set my duty to say 80 (i wouldnt do that) and only put the throttle down halfway and it read 0.7 or something, would thr EBC hold that boost each time, although the duty is high? or would it adjust and go up again? does that make sense bud?
 
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jayc-glanza17

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makes a little sense mate.
test boost settings at full throttle mate, that way it should keep the boost u desire.
i got mine set to 80 for summer, but usually 52 for cold weather like now.
 
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churcherj

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jayc-glanza17 said:
makes a little sense mate.
test boost settings at full throttle mate, that way it should keep the boost u desire.
i got mine set to 80 for summer, but usually 52 for cold weather like now.
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Is that because it creeps or do u have it set to lower boost? the only thing i dont like about these units is that if it creeps it saves that setting for next time, so if it crept 0.03 bar each time in the cold, you could find yourself boosting say 0.1 or 0.2 more than your desired setting, so mine is set to 0.61, if it crept to 0.64 then 0.68 its more than i wanted so gota keep an eye on that!
 
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jayc-glanza17 said:
yh mine creeps mate, tis a bloody pain, nt quite found the perfect balance for mine yet.
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ye thats a thing ive noticed, mines holding 0.61 everytime on full throttle, maybe on a drive tonight when its colder it may creep tho i shall see :) what boost you running mate? suppose its just trial and error to get the perfect balance :)
 
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jayc-glanza17

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was set up to 1.2, wih inital spool 1.3, but cold weather its going 1.5bar mate.
but added fuel tho, wud like to stop boosting after 1.3bar
 
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