ruggiero06
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so if i have a 5e with 4e electronics and 4e turbo setup i use the 5e timing marks?
The great 5E v 4E timing debate.
- Thread starter spuddy
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ruggiero06
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what were the torque figures
ruggiero06
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hmmm so 1 is at fly and 1 is at the wheels. seems like they would be the same.
so 4e marks gives more hp and around the sameish tq. whats your setup?
350ep70gr
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Stock timing is 10degrees but you can run 12 static without any problems at all.
Chris
gorganl2000
Lifer
hey chris...i'm not too sure about that
here, our gas quality is crap....like 90 oct from what i hear....and increasing base timing has been known to cause detonation in some situations
but i suppose the ecu could be able to pull some timing if tihs is happening
just giving another perspective
350ep70gr
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hey chris...i'm not too sure about that
here, our gas quality is crap....like 90 oct from what i hear....and increasing base timing has been known to cause detonation in some situations
but i suppose the ecu could be able to pull some timing if tihs is happening
just giving another perspective
Nice input but tested for long time with shit fuel at around 35 c abitient temp with the stock top mount intercooler in my stock motor and didnt sufer from det at all. And was like this more than a year. (and i let off the pedal from the floor maybe once a month LoL). When i open for first forging the all the parts was clean from faulty signs so i beleive it is safe to share this info. I had try even a litle bit more but just before we put the motor out with no det signs or noise.
Chris
gorganl2000
Lifer
NICE chris...good research/info:rockon:
well...i beleive my buddy did it on his ep82...it worked, but some light pinging was noticed in certain conditions
he also did it on "special occasions:haha:" which re reported resulted in improved response/acceleration, but a slight decrese in top end....but for those "special occasions:haha:" it did not matter, as the benefit outweighed the negative for that purpose
well...i beleive my buddy did it on his ep82...it worked, but some light pinging was noticed in certain conditions
he also did it on "special occasions:haha:" which re reported resulted in improved response/acceleration, but a slight decrese in top end....but for those "special occasions:haha:" it did not matter, as the benefit outweighed the negative for that purpose
350ep70gr
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NICE chris...good research/info:rockon:
well...i beleive my buddy did it on his ep82...it worked, but some light pinging was noticed in certain conditions
he also did it on "special occasions:haha:" which re reported resulted in improved response/acceleration, but a slight decrese in top end....but for those "special occasions:haha:" it did not matter, as the benefit outweighed the negative for that purpose
Totally understood what you talking about and can confirm the improved response/acceleration feeling. Also at this time my top mount ic was permantly under heat soak cause the air duct of the hood was not lined with the cooler.(as i have ep70)
Chris
ruggiero06
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you wanna talk about heat soak lol. i have the stock top mount in my paseo. no hood scoop at all. i also live in las vegas where gets up to 125*F thats 51*C for u metric guys lol. cant wait for the winter, nice and cold outside and ill have a front mount by then too :]
350ep70gr
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spuddy
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Well my cars being mapped next saturday (5th) its being primarily mapped on the 5E markings, especially now I've realised the 4EFE and 4EFTE are both on the 4E markings blows the whole NA/turbo debate out of it.
If we have time and if we can be arsed we will do 1 power run on the 4E markings, but only if it requires no additional mapping, which I doubt it would.
If we have time and if we can be arsed we will do 1 power run on the 4E markings, but only if it requires no additional mapping, which I doubt it would.
A
Animal GT
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good stuff lad!! wat rollers you using??
spuddy
Ulster Area Rep.
East Coast Customs lad.
A
Animal GT
Guest
yea!! surprised john is letting you do that!!!!wat ya do rent the rollers out for a day yea?..lol
spuddy
Ulster Area Rep.
Yea I've hired them out, I'd like to think they'll let me do wot I like in the time I have hired em for
might even see if myself or chris is putting out more leg HP
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Animal GT
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i take it john will be drivin the car on the rollers??i couldnt see him letting yous drive it on it!! insurance and that..how much is that costing you ya headerYea I've hired them out, I'd like to think they'll let me do wot I like in the time I have hired em for
spuddy
Ulster Area Rep.
Yea, it'll be one of the ECC staff operating the car on the rollers. Mapping on the road was just starting to get a bit silly, I need my license for work lol, just not worth it.