gun crime

rb69

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It's the way this country is going I'm afraid. I'm only just 22 and I'll sound old now, but the kids these days need a good fucking kicking. Sorry for the language but they are so cocky they need it. If i stepped out of line when i was a nipper i'd have got a leather belt round my ass! The country is too politically correct and it's going to fuck it's self up trying to be that.
Back on topic, i can see the gun crime going like America. That lad who fired the gun on that 11year old hasn't a clue what he's done. He's probably seen it in films and such and thought, yeah I'm hard for doing that. It's going to get to the stage where people won't feel safe unless they are carrying guns around to protect themselves.
 

Franza1

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That's true i feared my parents, Most of the little fuckers now a days think they are the law,

BTW lads please keep it on topic, We are not discussing Immigrants and foreign nationals

Thanks :)
 
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Monkfish

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Ahh good, we could do with a good "Have a rant" topic. :D

Kids with guns? Kids killing other kids? Hanging round in groups? What is that all about?! I put it down mainly to bad parenting. Kids are allowed to get away with too much. When I was younger I was well behaved because I knew that if I got in shit I'd have a slipper across my arse and sent to my room, which I didn't like. I was never abused by my parents in any way, shape or form, but I knew where my limits were. It doesn't help these days that child protection has just gone way OTT. You can't smack your child if he/she is being naughty? What a silly idea. So, your kid breaks something simple, and you just wag your finger and tell them not to do it again. What are they going to do? Break something else knowing full well they will get away with. When they're older the things they start breaking move from flowerpots and general household items to other peoples property, or even people themselves! Now I understand that the laws have been brought in to protect children in abusive homes, but if the Social Services did their job correctly in the first place, there would be no need for stupid laws. Bring back the cane I say!

It's all this political correctness bollocks. Things like you can't say "Whiteboard" or "Blackboard" in school any more, it has to be "Dry Marker Board" or "Chalk Board". The nursery rhyme "Baa Baa Black Sheep" has been changed because it's been deemed racist. Baa baa fucking black sheep for christ sakes! What's it been changed to? Baa Baa Coloured Sheep? Baa Baa Ethnic Minority Sheep? Fuck me, talk about rediculous. Don't get me wrong, I'm dead against racism, but is that not a tad on the extreme side?

Whilst I'm on a rant, what about the shitty UK laws? Say some pikey twunt has broken into my house with the intention of robbing my hard earned, and I set about him and give the twat a damn good pasting, what happens then? Does said pikey get done for Breaking and Entering? NO! I get done for assault. So, let me run through that again. Pikey commits a crime, I protect my property and it's me that gets my arse reamed? There was one case I heard about that really grips my shit. Some pikey attempts to break into someones house by climbing over their conservatory. They fall through the glass roof, cutting themselves and breaking their leg. Does said pikey get done for breaking and entering? No. He sues the home owners for damages, an WINS! What. The. Fuck? In the UK, you are more protected if you're the criminal, not the victim.

This leads me to my final question. What is so great about Great Britain...?

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dan

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well said mate!

pisses me right off, thing is tho.. all these little crews are just wanna be gangs, the new hypes it all up. A lad got shot down the road a few years back, by a drive by.. i mean ffs a drive by.. what is this boyz n the hood!
It'll all come back to rap music and films as it always does, these little shits just need a beat down.. like them 3 lads who killed that guy in warrington 'cus they were breaking into his car.. i mean ffs, what is society coming to.

If you ask me they should bring back national service, stick em in the army, make good use out of them (cannon fodder hopefully) No point stickin them in prison or youth prison, its only something to hype up there street cred.
 

sx_turbo

Lifer
ditto with monkfish, totally agree mate.

@akki on the immigrant side of things, i dont think there was any harm meant. what i think is meant is that there is to many foreigners coming over to this country, i am not racist at all, this country needs foreign people but not as many as is coming over that is all.

please if i have offended any body please u2u me as this was not the intention.

wot about wiggers? i fecking hate them why the hell are they trying to act like snoop dog for, they just look like idiots, i personally think thats where the problem lies along with poor discipline from parents and the government full of to many bloody goody 2 shoes grrrrrrr
 
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Monkfish

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No point stickin them in prison or youth prison, its only something to hype up there street cred.

Youth Prison? It's not a prison, it's a damn holiday camp!

On the subject of Prison's, this is one thing that REALLY grips my shit. Criminal X has been banged up for life (25yrs) for killing or raping someone, yet they get let out after 15yrs for good behaviour. Good Behaviour?! What the hell? Oooh, so Crimanal X has been 'good' whilst banged up for rape/murder? Now, call my cynical, but there's something ever so slightly idiotic about that.

Reminds me of a phrase that I heard once, "An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth". In my opinion, if someone kills a person in cold blood, they do not deserve to live themselves. Raped someone? Off with the cock. And before any 'Human Rights' activists start chirping up, you can fuck off. If you've committed a crime as serious as murder/rape, you loose any right to be classed as a human and should be left to fester in some shit pit cell destined to become worm food.
 

sx_turbo

Lifer
Youth Prison? It's not a prison, it's a damn holiday camp!

On the subject of Prison's, this is one thing that REALLY grips my shit. Criminal X has been banged up for life (25yrs) for killing or raping someone, yet they get let out after 15yrs for good behaviour. Good Behaviour?! What the hell? Oooh, so Crimanal X has been 'good' whilst banged up for rape/murder? Now, call my cynical, but there's something ever so slightly idiotic about that.

Reminds me of a phrase that I heard once, "An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth". In my opinion, if someone kills a person in cold blood, they do not deserve to live themselves. Raped someone? Off with the cock. And before any 'Human Rights' activists start chirping up, you can fuck off. If you've committed a crime as serious as murder/rape, you loose any right to be classed as a human and should be left to fester in some shit pit cell destined to become worm food.

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stuart

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Its the same as these stupid, 'Asbos' - Round here, these are used as street cred, you have an asbo your automatically classed as 'hard'.

Another thing is those community police support officers, if they are fully introduced, I think they should be given all the authority of standard police-people (note the non-sexist word useage there:cool:) as at the moment, they are just getting called plastic-pigs etc , as they can't really enforce the law, in many cases they get harassed!

Imo, the only way to put up a front against gun crime, is to allow the UK police to use guns, same as in America.
 

Monkfish

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Imo, the only way to put up a front against gun crime, is to allow the UK police to use guns, same as in America.

I'm not sure that would be the answer TBH. US law is more relaxed on guns, so they're more common and gun crime is higher. US Police carry guns for self protection more than enforcement. I saw one of those Police Camera Action type programs once, a US cop pulled someone over for something simple like an expired plate or a light out, and he got shot at!

UK law is tighter so it should be harder to get a gun. Besides, almost every force in the UK has a couple of Armed Response units. The ones driving about in the battenburg'd Lexus' are all armed response. Fighting fire with fire can sometimes be the only solution, but not always the best one.

Talking of gun crime again, I've just been listening to the news on Radio 1. They've been running the story of that poor 11yr old boy that was shot in a pub car park by what witnesses described as "A 15yr old boy in a hoody riding a BMX". 11 man, makes me sick. He'd barely even started living, then some kid shoots him in the back thinking he's Snoop Dogg. What sickens me more is the fact that when he's caught, he'll avoid prison because he's a minor and didn't know what he was doing. What a crock of shit. He should be locked away for good in a maximum security prison with the rest of the scum. There is no way in hell someone as mentally deranged as that should be allowed to see daylight, let alone walk the streets.
 

stuart

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What sickens me more is the fact that when he's caught, he'll avoid prison because he's a minor and didn't know what he was doing. What a crock of shit.

Look at the 2 lads who killed Jamie Bulger, they now have new indentities, new jobs, new friends. Kill someone and get a whole new life, another one of Britains fucked up beyond recognition idea's.
 

Monkfish

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Look at the 2 lads who killed Jamie Bulger, they now have new indentities, new jobs, new friends. Kill someone and get a whole new life, another one of Britains fucked up beyond recognition idea's.

Exactly. You're better off being a damn criminal in this country! :mad:
 

Glanza Pat

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This country has gone to the shits. Had someone spray a car with a burst of machine gun fire ten doors up from me last week. Dispersed 20 odd bullets in 3 seconds. Made me hop up from my nice quiet game of Fifa i tell ya. The person whose house the car was parked outside was very lucky as they got several bullets in their wall and 1 actually through the glass over their front door. But not as lucky as whoever was in the car. They were gone when the police turned up with just some blood left behind, prob from the shattered glass. They were jammy buggers.

But yes the state of this country is appalling, but hey, least there all getting better GCSE's results. Probably threatening the examiners into giving out good grades or they will shoot their houses up.

Seriously though, something drastic needs doing. All the mps need to get off their politically correct horses and start putting the law abiding citizens first. The human rights law is a shambles. Anyone who violates someone else human rights should immediately have all of their rights taken away. None of this suing for getting hurt while committing a crime. Jesus Christ, they shouldn’t have been there in the first place. It really grinds my gears.

Bring back the death penalty, national service and allow parents to discipline their own flesh and blood the way they see fit. There’s a difference between discipline and abuse. A few slaps never hurt anyone. There needs to be consequences, its the only thing that these schmucks will understand.
 

Monkfish

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Sorry to go a bit off-topic, but I'm thinking about creating a website so that I can have a damn good rant and put this country and it's useless Gov't to rights on subjects such as these (Save me spamming the boards too :D). I doubt the website will make a blind bit difference, but I'll feel happy that I'm voicing my opinion rather than just bleating away with the majority of the population. What do you think?
 

Glanza Pat

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Sounds like a plan Mr Fish. Can i come and rant with you. Perhaps if we get enough rants we can march on parliament and get this country back on the straight and narrow :)
 

Monkfish

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Sounds like a plan Mr Fish. Can i come and rant with you. Perhaps if we get enough rants we can march on parliament and get this country back on the straight and narrow :)

I'd love it. Not sure how I'm going to do it yet (If I go through with it). Probably some form of Blogging where comments can be left. If would be awesome to get enough support and make enough noise that the media get wind and make the Gov't listen. I doubt that would ever happen, but there's no harm in having a dream. :)

Some URL ideas would be good too. I did think about MyRant.co.uk but that's already gone (But not being used :mad:)

EDIT:- On-A-Rant.co.uk is free :p
 
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