4 killed in stolen car in Bradford

[Beaker]

Were they legally entitled to drive the car. No
Were they driving at illegal speeds. Yes
Could they have stoped for the police. Yes
Was it any ones fault but theres. No

I have remorse for the passengers as perhaps they didnt know what was going on, but the driver new exactly what he was doing and therefore has no sympathy from me.

 

[monka]

yeh but those cars you thought were worthless may have been worthwhile to the scrap man they make money off the parts for those cars so your kinda contradicting yourself there.

What if that scrap man made the decision/opinion that you deserved to crash and burn to death for taking his form of income.

well, personly i'd have respected that, as i was, i wouldnt have turned around and said i was doing nothing wrong or blamed it on my background
i'm just glad i stopped doing it before i got into bigger and worse things,

 

[Kelly]

well, personly i'd have respected that, as i was, i wouldnt have turned around and said i was doing nothing wrong or blamed it on my background
i'm just glad i stopped doing it before i got into bigger and worse things,

Exactly but people who knew you and your family would have thought that people making comments like that would be way too harsh and to wish death upon someone who has lost their way is only something certain people can do.

Like i said earlier my brother lost his way too and could easily have been in the situation like the one this thread is all about. But his behaviour was a cry for help and hopefully all is well now. He was brought up well, and educated etc etc but sometimes things are not that easy, you wouldnt think it nor does he but the reasoning behind his mad ways is based on the fact our dad kinda wiped his hands clean of his three children. Even though its not an excuse for his behaviour im just pointing out that not everyone can avoid the situations that make them go off the rails. Sometimes they don't even know it themselves.

 

[Dave.]

I find it hard to believe some folk on here think its a terrible tragedy (the tragedy is their lives imo, not their deaths. For reasons I'll cover in a moment)... They're criminals. They stole someone else's car, tried to evade the Police (do you really think they wouldn't re-commit if they got away?) and endangered how many lives during the pursuit? Pedestrians? Other innocent road users? Police officers? Do you think they considered that?

In my opinion it's lucky its only the criminals who were hurt. A real tragedy would have been them killing or even injuring innocent poeple and walking away from it. Passengers who didn't know what they were getting into (I mean not knowing the car was stolen - if that is the case) thats a tragedy also.

Sure they've left hurt family behind, but they should have thought about that.

What goes around does indeed come around.

Dave

 

[Beaker]

I bet the chippie closing will be mourned more than the thieves!

 

[Starlet_EP82]

wel if they stole the car wel then am glad there dead!! some mighten agree but thats wat i tink

thats is pure stupid mate what you said no one should die like that and the comment you put mste you are a total arse dont you think how they families are feeling still you are an arse

 

[Captain Starlet]

Hate to say it but if your willing to do the crime you have to be willing to do the time (in hell). :slap: 4 less scumbags in the world. As for there parents, they shouldnt be supprised because that was the way they were raised.
If they had survived the tax payer would probably have to pay hospital bills and rehabilitation fees and also its not free to keep someone in prison. After that they would probably have to go into a youth program to educate, council them (government funded of course) after that they will go on the welfare where they will sponge off the state which will support them to have kids of there own, thus repeating the cycle.

unbelievable,

Mate you have such a terrible attitude on life, yes they done wrong but does that wrong merit death i think not think before you write.

If say your brother did this ( maybe one of the passengers) would you still have the same outlook on the situation? if you say yes your nothing but a liar.

Yes i see the point of some of the views if they hit someone else.

People say the families brought them up bad, trust me kids from good backgrounds can still go off the rails. People have illness`s i.e murders, criminals as no one in there right mind would do this!

C.

 

[Captain Starlet]

I bet the chippie closing will be mourned more than the thieves!

very mature!

 

[Beaker]

If it was your car they stole and you saw them driving off, thrashing the shit out of it, clipping parked cars and curbs, what would you think then?

You would want the car to bite back and throw them in a flaming ball in to the nearest gas main.

 

[Captain Starlet]

If it was your car they stole and you saw them driving off, thrashing the shit out of it, clipping parked cars and curbs, what would you think then?

You would want the car to bite back and throw them in a flaming ball in to the nearest gas main.

Dont think for me!

Yes i would be angry of course you would its only natural however death! nah mate im not that sick

truthfully if they did that to you and they got down the road and they crashed in flames and were burning would you help or stand there and watch them die as they stole your car?

Think carefully

 

[Dave.]

As long as no innocent party was hurt directly or indirectly Beaker...

Then I can't say I'd think it was a terrible thing to happen, shit happens. If you expose yourself to the possibilty then so be it. If they weren't doing something wrong at the time (stealing, speeding, evading Police, endangering lives) then they wouldn't be in that situation...

Captain Scarlet - I'd without a doubt phone for help (Police, Ambulance), but I wouldn't endanger myself in the slightest to help them. Its karma mate.

Dave

P.S. I think its really interesting to see all the different points on view, its quite productive in my honest opinion.

 

[Kelly]

When my car got broken into and i woke up to find three young lads at my car etc etc i was angry and would gladly have let anyone kick the crap out of them! but i wouldnt want them to burn to death.

I was angry and annoyed that if they had manage get my car started then they probably would have crashed, they didnt look old enough to have a licence or at least not a licence for long and would have been a good chance of them making a mistake on the road in such a nippy lil car.

If they did crash and die then it happens but i wouldnt wish it upon them in all honesty it would play on my mind abit and yes they brought it upon themselves by their own actions but it wouldnt have been my ideal outcome.

 

[Starlet_EP82]

One of the young lads is related to me far not close it still gets to you my mum said they could hear the boys screaming in the fire dieing alive and trust me the people that put put stupid comments on that said they deserve well if any thing like that happens to you people who said them stupid comments then you will deserve it aswell like people say what comes around goes around

 

[Captain Starlet]

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Captain Scarlet - I'd without a doubt phone for help (Police, Ambulance), but I wouldn't endanger myself in the slightest to help them. Its karma mate.

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Agree mate totally with that comment but your still helping them so you are, but i feel certain members by there posts wouldnt even do that!

 

[Dave.]

I can't say I'd want to help them though lol

My conscience just wouldn't allow otherwise

 

[Sean_GT]

One of the young lads is related to me far not close it still gets to you my mum said they could hear the boys screaming in the fire dieing alive and trust me the people that put put stupid comments on that said they deserve well if any thing like that happens to you people who said them stupid comments then you will deserve it aswell like people say what comes around goes around

To be honest i dont think anyone who made those comments would be stealing a car anytime soon so i cant see how the same thing happening to them

Can you imagine a little boy or girl screaming and crying if they had hit and killed there mother with there reckless driving

 

[imavisitor]

My thoughts go out to the families and victims left behind from this tragic accident, yes that will include the police, medical staff and all the respective families involved to, along with the families of the fatalaties.

Many people will have been effected by this and not just the people who died in the car, comments like 'I am glad they died' will certainly never be uttered by the police involved regardless of the fact that the law had been broken.

A vehicle was stolen, chased by police, did not stop when requested, tried to speed away from police, involved in accident and people died.

Did all parties who died know for definate that the car was stolen?
Was it a collective agreement to run from the police?

There are many questions that will need to be asked in trying to proportion blame and when the final decisions are made, there will be many people who agree and disagree. Feeling glad that people died from this, is not the way to go!!!

I have like many, my own opinions regarding the accident, however, I wasn't there to be in a position to comment, hence my feelings above.

 

[Sean_GT]

I can't say I'd want to help them though lol

My conscience just wouldn't allow otherwise

To be honest even people who have posted bad comments would try and help the best they can.

Its easy to sit on your computer and say this and that but if they were there at the time i think people would think differently

 

[cameroon95]

My thoughts go out to the families and victims left behind from this tragic accident, yes that will include the police, medical staff and all the respective families involved to, along with the families of the fatalaties.

Many people will have been effected by this and not just the people who died in the car, comments like 'I am glad they died' will certainly never be uttered by the police involved regardless of the fact that the law had been broken.

A vehicle was stolen, chased by police, did not stop when requested, tried to speed away from police, involved in accident and people died.

Did all parties who died know for definate that the car was stolen?
Was it a collective agreement to run from the police?

There are many questions that will need to be asked in trying to proportion blame and when the final decisions are made, there will be many people who agree and disagree. Feeling glad that people died from this, is not the way to go!!!

I have like many, my own opinions regarding the accident, however, I wasn't there to be in a position to comment, hence my feelings above.

The most sensible comment so far, well done mate.

 

[Dave.]

imavisitor, you're getting quite the regular poster now!

High quality post and covering a lot of important points, one folk should be giving a good read, and a lot of thought to before posting in my opinion

To be honest even people who have posted bad comments would try and help the best they can.

Its easy to sit on your computer and say this and that but if they were there at the time i think people would think differently

Totally, and 100% agree with that.

Dave