4 killed in stolen car in Bradford

[sx_turbo]

i am with dylan and jay on this one.

i feel for there family's more than them though.

and they done the crime, and they (unfortunately) paid the highest price for there stupidity.

i'm a great beleiver in second chances, it's a shame they didnt get a second chance after this.

R.I.P.

 

[FeNder]

How do you know? Maybe these people were given advice/guidance.. Maybe they were reached out to but, for one reason or other, they advice didn't hit home..

It's not a simple case of people not been given a chance or acting like scum because they were treated like scum.. Maybe it’s the exact opposite.. It's not always someone else’s fault.. people are too quick to look for excuses for why other people do bad things..

Death is never a justified outcome in these situations but how many people do you know or how many stories have you read/heard about innocent pedestrians getting hit by stolen cars driving in such a way where there is only going to be one outcome, either for the driver or that person who's unlucky enough to be going about their business at the same time their paths cross?

I know too many people who have either been killed or had their lives destroyed by thugs like this.. and, as far as I'm concerned, if you're in the car, you're as guilty as the person behind the wheel..

Again, death is not deserved for those 4 people but, as Dylan said, you live by the sword, you die by the sword..

what swords are you talking about , theyre kids ! no one ever tried hard enough , society can be a killer when everyone labels them , they will never have the mental capacity to fight back , obviously no pro help was sought after , they deserved punishment surely , but not this kind

 

[Sheldon]

As for there parents, they shouldnt be supprised because that was the way they were raised.

you realy dont know how wrong you are! one of the worst comments so far.

 

[Kelly]

~Agree with Sheldon there, yes sometimes problems are associated with upbringing but not always the case.

 

[Sheldon]

btw talking from past expiriance not out of my ass before someone posts up saying i dont know what im talking about.

 

[monka]

you realy dont know how wrong you are! one of the worst comments so far.

agree with that

doesnt matter what your background is, its your choice,

i know people from wealthy backgrounds and from poor backgrounds, yet i know people from both who have done well, and people who have done shit

 

[Beaker]

This thread is causing arguments for arguments sake. They nicked a car, crashed it and died. They shouldnt have done it. I feel sorry for there parents but they were criminals breaking the law. If they were burglars, and they fell down the stairs in a house and died threre wouldnt be this much shit about it. As its a car forum, people think cars are worth more than they are.
They broke the law and they suffered. Is it bad that they died, to me, not really, to there friends and family yes.
If every car thief ended this way, the world would be a nicer place. Insurance would be cheaper, there would be less tossers on the road. I am happy to say this as I do not steal cars and drive like a tosser in residential areas.
When a teenager gets stabbed to death in london, the press always says that they were a sweet kid who was loved by everyone. It never says they were a knife weilding geng member thug. The people involved in this might well have been total robbing, drug dealing scum in which case they got what they deserved. But as I said before, its theree family i feel sorry for, not the people involved.

 

[Sean_GT]

you realy dont know how wrong you are! one of the worst comments so far.

I dunno mate he has the a point but i think said it the wrong way.

Kids with a bad up bringing by parents are the ones that generally turn out to be criminals.

Saying the parents could be to blame in this case would be wrong because no one knows the situation.

But in some cases the parents have not tought there children write from wrong, so yes in a way they would be to blame.

 

[Sean_GT]

agree with that

doesnt matter what your background is, its your choice,

i know people from wealthy backgrounds and from poor backgrounds, yet i know people from both who have done well, and people who have done shit

Thats Bollox.

If you have not been tought something is wrong from a young age then you are not going to see anything wrong with doing it.

It may be your choice to commit the crime but if you have not been shown the right path in life then you are going to think there is nothing wrong with it.

 

[Sheldon]

I dunno mate he has the a point but i think said it the wrong way.

Kids with a bad up bringing by parents are the ones that generally turn out to be criminals.

Saying the parents could be to blame in this case would be wrong because no one knows the situation.

But in some cases the parents have not tought there children write from wrong, so yes in a way they would be to blame.

no matter what parents teach you... you choose what to do when you get older. no matter how hard the parents try! at least you cannot generalise

 

[Sheldon]

think this thread should be locked....

 

[Sean_GT]

no matter what parents teach you... you choose what to do when you get older. no matter how hard the parents try! at least you cannot generalise

Yes but if you have not had it drummed into your head that stealing is wrong then you are going to do it!

 

[Sheldon]

Yes but if you have not had it drummed into your head that stealing is wrong then you are going to do it!

nah man.. most of the time at a young age you do/listen more to friends then your parents. i know what im saying but not everyone thinks like me maybe.

 

[Beaker]

If you need it drummed in to your head then theres the problem.

 

[Sheldon]

If you need it drummed in to your head then theres the problem.

good point

 

[Animal GT]

thats is pure stupid mate what you said no one should die like that and the comment you put mste you are a total arse dont you think how they families are feeling still you are an arse

no chap ur the arsehole!! for feelin sory for them scum,as i said the only people i feel half sory for is there parents!.

i realy couldnt care wat all you softy people tink!!

thats exactly wat needs to happen to alot of people out there!! get them of the streets.

 

[Sean_GT]

I could argue my point here forever so i am not going to bother.

My last post in this thread.

They should not have stolen the car and put other peoples lives in danger.

BUT

They did not deserve to die.

 

[Sheldon]

Locckkk!

 

[cole]

tradgic accident

what they did was wrong

imagine if people had been at work in the chippy

for a police offer to start crying when she heard them screaming as they was burning to death doesent that show how discusting it is !

Rip to the people who died
and my thorts go out to the familys and people who have lost there propity

what about the flat upstairs ? some ones lost there home

really is a sad time

cole

 

[alan_d]

As the original poster of this thread I think its safe to say the discussion has ran its course, so theirs probably little point in locking. This is a discussion based forum with views that are going to sit on both sides of the fence.
In my view its ok that both sides have their say, locking it will only stop people having their say... Id reckon in a few days this thread will be in page 4 or five, people will ahve forgotten, and thatll be it.

I only posted it, as there are quite a few bradford members here, and thought they may shed some light on it.

What I can say though, is that ive learned a bit from peoples views, ive saw some valid aspects that I certainly hadnt considered before...

confuscious say " how can gangsta Al see, if gangsta Al isnt enlightened"

word.