why is idrees banned?

[Franza1]

Yes indeed & im sure you can update the rules with a new part which says members cannot get other members opinions or else their thread gets locked & moved.

I do believe i explained all of this to you over PM already. If you do infact have any problem with it i'm sure one of the other adminstrators are online or will be online in the near future and you can have the same arguement you just attempted to have with me over PM and then contridicted yourself in here again.

 

[Sheldon]

didn't you read rick's posts? it's clear that some members are not entirely happy with the rules and feel the need for something to be done about it, otherwise, as rick said this thread would not be here.

heh... thats how things work dude. its the same with countries and governments. most of the people think that there are rules that need to be changed but cannot be changed cos they think so. or else the country will be having some sort of "problems" from another side just to fix one side. so then.. the only thing that can be done is shut up or go else where, clearly rules are not gonna change just cos some people thinks its best.

 

[Rumel786]

Incase you missed it there is five pages of members opinions on this topic in this thread.

I know corey but with a poll it would of been confidential voting.

I knew me creating that thread wont help him get an position, rules are rules BUT i wanted to know overall on the site what people actually think.

It annoys me due to the fact that it seems members are not allowed ot get opinions on things anymore.

Anywho im off this thread now...

 

[Phil]

So fair we are not allowed to get other members opinions on anything without threads getting locked & moved.

Fair enough he may have broke the rules BUT iv dealt with him many times, so have others on here & idrees being banned form selling will mean i cant get a few parts off him that i wanted thus me creating a pol to see what other members opinions are on here....

given that he has broken the rules, as you said above. he hasnt kept the right to voice his opinion atm. Rick has because when warned he racted properly. yes he awaits a better/different solution, but he waits.

also as for no one having or voicing an opinion.... we have all been giving ours in here. but thats not really the point because you welcome to have a poll on say...whether schumacher would have been any use on his return to F1, but not on issues like should Frankie be a superMod or should someone be a trader, because they are above our station and noone has to answer to us.

Phil

 

[Rumel786]

I do believe i explained all of this to you over PM already. If you do infact have any problem with it i'm sure one of the other adminstrators are online or will be online in the near future and you can have the same arguement you just attempted to have with me over PM and then contridicted yourself in here again.

Argument?

I never argued with you,i can post up the pm discussion we had and let other members see if i was arguing or not, just told you the facts about my thread BUT it seems that you were arguing with me due to the fact i posted a thread to get members opinions which you didnt like.

I dont come on here to argue with members/mods, the only reason i come on this site is because of the community & service i get on this site is not comparable anywhere else iv been.

But it seems recently mods are being picky with things, which in a way is good in a way as you are doing it to protect members & the site.

Anyway Whats done has been done & cannot be changed.

 

[faisalgtturbo]

look gents and ladies

idrees is banned end of (its not permanent)

he has broke the rules so obviously he has been banned....
leave it at that intstead of digging him a bigger whole to climb out of...


the rest of this topic should be in suggestions and feedback ( ok my pint should be there as well)

i do believe we need a common ground for the likes off rick and idrees or any one else (reputable) ... i like the fact they are based here in uk and not malaysia or anywhere else and i think they are offering bargins to members along with good service....
obiviously there is competition between traders and people like ricka and idrees but it shouldnt make a difference...

so far i think most of the traders are offereing more of the same... 1 or 2 are slightly different...
i dont think many people can afford to or choose to buy from traders becasue some of the prices for new items are high.

i know hardly by from the traders.. alot of my parts are bought from members used or new items...

for exmaple if u bought a dumpvalve lets hks ssqv (over £150 ish new) didnt like the sound wanted a change how many new ones are u ganna buy...


sorry if this offends any one... not ment to just getting my point across

ok

faisal

 

[Phil]

^^ you support the system?

GET OUT i dont believe it... is that really you faisal? lol

and your right his friends and brother are digging him a hole he will have trouble getting out of, when to be honest, the punishment was far from severe.

Phil

 

[faisalgtturbo]

lol phil i love u guys really come on we one family


rofl

 

[Phil]

lol phil i love u guys really come on we one family


rofl

haha lets stop splamling. family is about right.

 

[Rick]

The trading rule is not just there to protect members, it allows us to monitor what is going on and the transactions on the site. But it also allows us to have dedicated traders, we provide them with a service as much as they provide the members.




We have already been very flexible. To help understand our view have a look at Idrees' sale history.

Not including the individual parts listed by Idrees, these are the threads linked to breaking.
Break #1
Break #2
Break #3
Break #4
Break #5
Break #6

Now in the period of less than one year, do you think this is normal sales activity where a member is simply shifting a few parts that have been replaced or no longer required?



I can't see the issue with listing parts on eBay? Can you give me an example other than listing fees as to why you wouldn't offer your parts there? Almost every member here will look on eBay if they require something, looking on the forum will most likely be a second option to most.

I think it's agreed that our main interest lies with our registered traders. We're not really interested in people who want to buy and break cars to make a profit or buy parts cheaply and sell them on here. We want our traders to develop new products at reasonable prices, we'd prefer the members of the forum to purchase from them because the outcome is that some of that money will be invested in the development of new items.

Basically the issue with ebay is this:

In order for me to do this I have to buy a used item and sell a used item, this already gives very little room for profit, then add the postage and it is very difficult already.

With ebay you have so many charges it's just not funny. You have a fee for listing, if you want a buy it now price that's an extra fee, if you don't start at 99p then that's another fee, if you have a reserve that's then yet another fee, if you want more than 1 photo that's another fee, then they take another percentage of the final price, then if the buyer pays by Paypal they then want another 4%, then if the item doesn't sell they then want yet another fee for that too. So if you get one of the many timewasters who like to bid then not pay up, that's cost even more when it's not even your fault. Then unless you start at a price you are happy to sell at you could very easily end up making a considerable loss.

That is what is wrong with ebay. Because of the very little profit made (As I said I never did it for the money) it is not possible to buy a used item and move it on for any profit whatsoever on ebay.

The beauty of selling on a forum is that you are straight to the enthusiasts and you can wait for the right buyer to come along for the right product so you are not on a time limit like you are with ebay.

Think your fighting a losing battle Rick, however i do agree with alot of what you and the mods have said, but imo there does need to be some middle ground.

I must say I agree but I still feel that it is a cause worth fighting for as at the end of the day, yes it would benefit me but it would also most definetly benefit this whole community.

again isnt that what ebay is for?

and you'll find that the majority of traders on here also sell on ebay.

most traders use tgtt mainly for advertising purposes, traders PAY for this advertising privilidge.

Please refer to the above point with regards to selling on ebay.

I have never refused to PAY for selling anything on this forum, personally I totally agree with it and have already offered to pay the full traders fee.

 

[Rick]

Out of 5,628 members, I can only see 1 member debating this. Obviously, when he's back, idrees could also debate this, so that makes 2. The current system works, and if people need to go outside of the rules, ebay can be used.

If it's only 2 people then another 2 traders wouldn't make any difference LOL!!!!

 

[ChrisGT]

If it's only 2 people then another 2 traders wouldn't make any difference LOL!!!!

lol!

 

[Sharagath]

4 pages with noting more than mud throwing and kicking to the system, welkom to the real world.

 

[Rick]

4 pages with noting more than mud throwing and kicking to the system, welkom to the real world.

What????

This is a very mature discussion on quite an important point which personally I think would make this community an even better place.

 

[Dave.]

Oh my god, how petty.

Just because Idrees hasn't conned anyone (and isn't a trader) doesn't mean he should be allowed to continue. That would allow the next guy who just wants to trade for free (with no commitment to the job via a traders fee at least) to move in and use him as a reason why he should be allowed to trade.

Also, if you're willing to break the rules and try and trade so blatantly (especially when warned) I don't think it'd be suitable for you to uphold a position, with such a blatant disregard for the rules... It hardly demonstrates the understanding of rules (a necessity when trading I'm sure).

I like Idrees and talk to him a lot, and would without a doubt trust him enough to buy stuff off him, so it is nothing against him, and if you read this and are offended I apologise

At the end of the day, it's one week and for the greater good. Chill out folk...

Dave

 

[Rick]

Oh my god, how petty.

Just because Idrees hasn't conned anyone (and isn't a trader) doesn't mean he should be allowed to continue. That would allow the next guy who just wants to trade for free (with no commitment to the job via a traders fee at least) to move in and use him as a reason why he should be allowed to trade.

Also, if you're willing to break the rules and try and trade so blatantly (especially when warned) I don't think it'd be suitable for you to uphold a position, with such a blatant disregard for the rules... It hardly demonstrates the understanding of rules (a necessity when trading I'm sure).

I like Idrees and talk to him a lot, and would without a doubt trust him enough to buy stuff off him, so it is nothing against him, and if you read this and are offended I apologise

At the end of the day, it's one week and for the greater good. Chill out folk...

Dave

Again I think people are missing the point of this discussion. This is not about Idrees being banned, we are now discussing the trading rules and if it may be possible to have a slight change to have a midway point between a full trader and a private seller.

 

[Sheldon]

Again I think people are missing the point of this discussion. This is not about Idrees being banned, we are now discussing the trading rules and if it may be possible to have a slight change to have a midway point between a full trader and a private seller.

well... title says different. and i think what was writen here by mods its clearly there is no need to change any rules. after all why change rules just for some people when everything is good as it is.

would you fix your car if its not broken?

 

[Rick]

well... title says different. and i think what was writen here by mods its clearly there is no need to change any rules. after all why change rules just for some people when everything is good as it is.

would you fix your car if its not broken?

In that case why change anything ever?

 

[Dave.]

Again I think people are missing the point of this discussion. This is not about Idrees being banned, we are now discussing the trading rules and if it may be possible to have a slight change to have a midway point between a full trader and a private seller.

I'm really not, it's called 'why is idrees banned?'. If I come into a thread called that, and talk about why Idrees was banned I've hardly missed the point. Can you see how it actually fits in quite well?

I think you should be a trader or not - if you have nothing new to bring to the site then why should you trade here? If you're not willing to make a small monetary commitment to being a trader (£100 or so isn't it?) then you shouldn't be a trader.

Trading in a way which breaks the rules highlights that someone shouldn't be a trader. Disregarding the rules hardly shows an understanding of how the trader thing works.

Dave

EDIT: I should add, I don't mean it to sound like 'You' personally Rick, I mean in general.

 

[Sheldon]

In that case why change anything ever?

rules are changed when something wrong is going on that who did the rules didnt think off..

i personally think the trading/selling rules over here work very well for almost every one, as clearly you dont think so.

btw im not arguing or anything, im just exchanging ideas and what i think. (cos sometimes you can sound different after a keyboard)