4 killed in stolen car in Bradford

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59bhp

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okay well not likely to happen but what if one of them had a gun to his/her head and was forced to get in? like i said its an extreme circumstance but not out the realms of reality and in this circumstance doubtfull but nobody knows the full story so cant make a valid point really concerning wether or not anybody should die.

Too many people with rose tinted glasses that think these idiots can change.

its not foolish to value life and irrespective of wether or not they change. So if someone decides to become a pro car thief and does it for the rest of there life should they be put to death? im not making a point im actually asking your opinion btw.
 

Dave.

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59bhp:

I'm not sure FerryScoob (and definetely not me!) are saying anyone deserved to die.

But, if through your own stupidity, you kill yourself breaking the law and endangering others. Thats tough shit, its not a tragedy.

I think that's the general concensus here?

Dave
 

Dave.

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Conforming to the 'Normal'. Obeying the laws of your area, and allowing them to work for you, rather than against you.

Simple things too, such as:

1 - Not taking what doesn't belong to you (in every sense)
2 - Simple ethical rules (treat others as you want to be treated)
3 - and so on...

Dave
 

Dave.

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I'm also not implying law is perfect...

I think ethical and moral guidelines are more important, and I know I'm no saint lol...

dave
 

John757

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I find it hard to believe some folk on here think its a terrible tragedy (the tragedy is their lives imo, not their deaths. For reasons I'll cover in a moment)... They're criminals. They stole someone else's car, tried to evade the Police (do you really think they wouldn't re-commit if they got away?) and endangered how many lives during the pursuit? Pedestrians? Other innocent road users? Police officers? Do you think they considered that?

In my opinion it's lucky its only the criminals who were hurt. A real tragedy would have been them killing or even injuring innocent poeple and walking away from it. Passengers who didn't know what they were getting into (I mean not knowing the car was stolen - if that is the case) thats a tragedy also.

Sure they've left hurt family behind, but they should have thought about that.

What goes around does indeed come around.

Dave

Well said Dave. I agree 100%.
 

Sheldon

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Conforming to the 'Normal'. Obeying the laws of your area, and allowing them to work for you, rather than against you.

Simple things too, such as:

1 - Not taking what doesn't belong to you (in every sense)
2 - Simple ethical rules (treat others as you want to be treated)
3 - and so on...

Dave

yeah everyone should follow that... but cmon... where humans!!!!!!!!
 

Dave.

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lol, I know where you're coming from.

I just don't see the defense for doing something like that, thats all.

I stray regularly outwith the boundaries of law and probably moral/ethical stuff too. But only slightly, you know?
 

Sheldon

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yeah.. also im not saying what they did was right etc. but beaing happy that they died so "4 scumbags off there road now" its not human at all. and blaiming there aprents without even knowing anythingabout this accident!!!
 

Dave.

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I should clarify, I think the parents have without a doubt an input into the children's behaviour. I'm not trying to change the subject with my last post! ^

Dave

*edit* Just seen Sheldon's post - I agree with that to some extent, but I feel different parents would have raised them all differently, and as such they have a part to play in the outcome... Also, rep left for some good points Sheldon. I'm outta here, I've posted waaaaay to much! *edit*
 
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gv1.3

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lots of name calling etc in this thread which is not really needed guys its starting to sound like a schoolyard shouting match.

The driver was running from the police and cause the crash at high speed. If the passengers were all innocent then the driver is even guilty of three murders along with everything else.

I dont know the ins and outs of this but what I do know is neither I nor any of my friends were out stealing cars that night and then driving them in a town at high speed and we are all still alive. If I did steal them and drive in a way that caused my death then that would be my problem.

All too often we hear of people being attacked when they disturb car thieves, a guy in Dublin was stabbed to death last year when he caught thieves taking his car. I have sympathy for peoples families and friends and as mentioned already the emergency services who have to deal with this type of scene.

Also people who commit serious car crime like auto theft are usually involved in other crimes. To say these people were would be mere speculation but I would be interested to see if they have clean legal pasts.

For people to come on and say it was down to their upbringing and telling others not to generalize and not to pass judgement without knowing all the facts... you are also doing just that! These people could have had a model upbringing you dont know and cannot say that they didnt.

To close this off - Four people are dead, they died in a stolen car driving inappropriately. In life if you push the boundaries too far you may get away with it for a day, a month, a year ... but it only takes one time for things to go wrong spectacularly. This is as much true for car thieves as it is for anything in life but the extent of what can go wrong is often dictated by the level of danger you cause.

Be safe driving because incidents like this happen to people driving inappropriately in their OWN cars too.

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