Debate time...Who makes the best hybrid?
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TurboDave
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I agree totally but you cant compare and "diss" things like "not enlarged trumpet so no good" and "standard size wastegate flap" when you dont know why they have been left like they have. The people who cut and weld a larger intake trumpet on do so to show more compressor wheel to give the impression that the compressor wheel is larger than it is. Boring and flowing the comp housing and fitting a larger comp wheel is a lot more work than simply cutting off the trumpet and welding a larger one on. The standard size trumpet when bored is plenty large enough to do over 200bhp and it allows you to fit air filter relocation kits easier as you require less chunky piping.
Hybrid, Does boring a comp housing class as an external modifitcation or does the entire housing need to be changed?
HYBRID
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well technicaly it is an exterior modification but the housing remains the same, its just the size of the intake that has been increased.. thats y its called a hiflow dave, coz u retain the same housings yet modify them so that the turbo can flow more 
kon
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Hybrid your theory on them not being hybrids is seriously floored. As they are still 2 or more turbo's matted together whever the housing has changed or not and still has the same effect. You could say it isn't a hybrid if it doesn't fit without modification as thats the point in a hybrid. So that would count out tongs and speedvisions.
Dave@TM-developments.com
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I have come across this many times. In the UK we tend to call any modified turbo a hybrid which basically it is as its made from different turbo parts. Abroad they tend to have hi flow and hybrid as explained above. We just like to keep things simple
sx_turbo
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hutch's tune is massively up the shit aswell though, and the avcr isnt boosting right i read, so until he gets it sorted i wouldnt blame it o the turbo just yet.
*i'm not trying to start an argument.*
speedvision
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in regards to this comment...
first off why is it a flaw having brand new units? i will be happy to get ur answer if it can help me in developing these better in the future.
u said "cheaper replica parts" meaning not up to standard like toyota units?
well if you didnt kno they are made from a molding which is in my opinion and anyone who knows about molding will be very strong. an example is such as the jam cast iron which is made from a molding also..all turbo compressor housing which i have seen are made from aluminum and turbine from cast iron.correct me anyone if i am wrong.. and i dont think there have been any reports of these failing
here is why i went ahead with brand new units..
the reason i went ahead and got a brand new turbocharger is to save everyone time from having to take their turbo off , send it to me to get hybrided and having to wait that time frame to get it back with their cars off the road and me being in the USA will not help very much nor get me any sales as postage will cost a ton. everyoen will agree this saves alot of time when they can just wait till they receive the hybrid and install it one weekend when they dont have to drive around much...this was one of the most important decision i had to make in saving pple time and also a good reason to purchase my turbos compared to other traders where they would have to exhange their units.
one other thing i had to think about was the cost of the mold i had to pay just to get these turbos developed...but it out weighed the decision that most pple would rather buy an already availabe hyrbid than having to have to wait for theirs to get hybrided....
and to conclude its not cheap at all to get a brand new mold developed and ontop of that to have your name engraved on it..
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no offence was meant to you mate honestly. im in the turbo trade and have experience with replica parts, mainly shafts and compwheels and internals. im saying if i had a choice between new or genuine parts i would choose geniune as thats the only way you can garentee that the parts are up to desired quality. replica shafts and comp wheels are much harder to balance to good specifications. im not saying you cant build a perfect turbo thats last a long time out of replica parts, because you can, and not all replica parts are bad. its just personally if i had a choice it would be origanal parts.
as i put in my post im not saying your hybrids are made from such poor quality parts. i wish you all the best with them as they look a good unit at a cheap price.
as i put in my post im not saying your hybrids are made from such poor quality parts. i wish you all the best with them as they look a good unit at a cheap price.
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speedvision
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no offence was taken..just wanted to give my 2 cents as to why i went for new units...
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TurboDave
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Even thou we don't go by the hi-flow/hybrid rule here, it seems by Hybrids comments, our 'hybrids' on offer are not good as they could be? Because they have no compressor or turbine housing modifications?
( Ps. I know nothing about this stuff
Na thats not true mate, it isnt difficult to stick a huge compressor housing and wheel onto a CT9 turbine housing so it will fit onto the standard fitment mani and downpipe.
The problem lies with trying to control the boost because the wastagate isnt phtysically large enough even when bored to expel enough exhaust gasses at higher RPM.
Another problem is that it is almost impossible to ballance a huge comp wheel i.e. CT20 on a CT9 Turbine wheel and shaft.
Another problem is that when you fit such a large comp housing and wheel the turbine housing and standard turbine wheel becomes a restriction and causes lots of heat backup.
Compressor surge also becomes more of a problem when running a CT9/CT20 "hybrid".
If you are going to fit a different turbine housing you need a custom mani and downpipe which means that the cost multiplies and this is why people just go down the TD04 route.
Starlet_Sam
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Had it been cut back? The measurements were slightly different Ian said.
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Starlet_Sam
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My one? I was told it was an old JD.