Finally back on road! but.... ( pic's ;D )
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Blak_Mamber
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Just come accross this thread!
Nice looking car you got there Lewis!:rockon:
You got a pm shortly cause i am a bit pissed with rickys post in first page
and i dont want people suspect me of anything.
Anyway your car looks very very sexy!
Chris
Hey Chris,
Thanks for your kind comments. Taken a lot of time/money & effort to get her looking how i wanted it to.
Replied to your PM mate :kiss:
350ep70gr
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Time for little boost id say
:drive::drive:Yea got it thanks. Hope you find who to punch in the face soon!:argue::slap::shoot::slap:
Chris
sx_turbo
Lifer
i didnt say anything wrong, thankyou very much,
all i said was hopefully you can get a refund on the crank, whats so bad about that??????????????????
sx_turbo
Lifer
looks nice
but you saying that they put a crank in, knowing that it had a crack in it...
yes he was made aware of that. and he said he garunteed it wasnt a problem.
i did tell lewis that the oil seal didnt fit past the scoring, and lewis decided that it should be fitted.
any whoo, as far as i'm concerned everything is sorted, chris can confirm whether it is or not.
back on topic please folks
sx_turbo
Lifer
is it actually cracked then or is it just pitted?
did they strip the engine when fitting the new crank and check its balanced
them gt3's look nice all one colour
it's just where the front oil seal sat, it was damaged, like deep scores as if someone had tried changing the front main seal at some point, and they sat exactly where the oil seal sat.
everywhere else was spot on.
350ep70gr
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About the refund Ricky i will speak directly to Lewis.I think his mechanic need to refund him and i would say faster than asap.
But do you insist that what he told me the crank has was there from day one?
Come on mate i checked it (and polished every single journal),you checked it and made some comments to my feed back section ,machine shop checked it and said was ok...and now what?
You tell me i had remove crank seal by screwdriver and marked the crank?
What am i stupid or something?I still have the oil pump with the seal on it!
What i was pissed of with you was your suggestion to Lewis even you have checked itby yourshelf. You are not an out guy who dont know what is the story about..to suggest something like this.
Anyway..lets not ruin lewis thread anymore..cause it is about his car and not how someone realy stupid can scratch a crank.
Chris
sx_turbo
Lifer
the refund is between you and lewis.
the engineers checked the crank, and even marked on lewis invoice that they werent garunteeing the crank because they said it shouldnt be used.
i didnt see the scoring where the oil seal sits, until i fitted the oil pump.
i have spent many an hour helping lewis out, and i havnt charged him anything, and wont charge him anything.
i have spent far to much of my own spare time, i have taken days off work, i have damaged my back, i have borrowed the works van, i have done lots of running around, there's been things i've given lewis and not charged him for, i've worked out deals with local mechanics and engineers and stuff, and got him nice discounts from toyota,
i have bent over more than backwards (so much so a roundabout would look straight) trying to help lewis with all the issues, and to be fair most of the problems lewis has had is one of them things,
but i will not be accused of things,
i have gona above and beyond the call of duty of being a friend and helping someone out.
i was gonna charge lewis £200 to take the engine out, strip it down, do all the things he wanted, and put it back again,
then he had issues, that were beyond my control, and i told him not to worry about paying me until the engine was good and sorted as even though it's naff al to do with me i still feel bad, as i know what it's like.
i will not be taking any money from lewis i had decided this ages ago and is not just because of whats on here.
i dont know what you and lewis have been talking about between you it doesnt really concern me, but if i have been made to be the bad guy i'm pretty pissed.
350ep70gr
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Ricky i have no dout you have help Lewis.
What i know is the following as i told lewis aswell.
The car was my cousins and i service it from day one.
He deside to brake and i took the engine for me.I brake it and i drive it to my house with the engine running and NO LEAK AT ALL.
I was going to keep the engine for forging it as a spare to me.
I disasmply it WITHOUT taking out the seal. Just the oil pump WITH the seal on it. Wich i still have it WITH the seal on it and a bit dirty.
Then i saw Lewis searching around to find every single crank he found to be damaged or out of tolerance.
And i deside to help him since i had a few. I told him i had two a performance one and a standard. Since the last minute i was very attemped to dont sell it as it WAS LIKE NEW. So i polished all the journals (wich mean if it was a MARK there i would have seen it for sure.) and packed it as better as was possible (wich mean couldnt be damage at transport even it was falling from 10 floors),oil the Journals so will not rust (even if it was fallen into the sea) and sent it over. I was that sure the crank was ok that i told Lewis if it was going to fail i would made a refund asap +++++++ new bearing ++++new gasket set+++++new rings set. (Lewis can verify this).
It would be stupid to do so if it was a faulty item...Whats your opinion?
I dont know what you say about the invoice of the machine shop and what was the reason behind the suggestion of not guranteed to use it.
What is this? A crank could be good to use or not good to use..that so or so responce dosent belong to a machine shop with mesurment tools.
And i remember Lewis pm saing machine shop said ok. I may still have it.
When you check a crank you check the journal on a round way not just open the box...How happend not to see a fault?...Maybe because it wasnt a fault when you open it.
Anyway i cant blame you or machine shop or whoever touch it..but damage had happend 110% after opening the box.I take it you had install the seal then... (just kiding ..i cant blame you of anything but maybe you need to refund Lewis Just a suggestion as yours! Kiding again)
Edit: Just a litle bit of history http://www.toyotagtturbo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67127
Chris
What i know is the following as i told lewis aswell.
The car was my cousins and i service it from day one.
He deside to brake and i took the engine for me.I brake it and i drive it to my house with the engine running and NO LEAK AT ALL.
I was going to keep the engine for forging it as a spare to me.
I disasmply it WITHOUT taking out the seal. Just the oil pump WITH the seal on it. Wich i still have it WITH the seal on it and a bit dirty.
Then i saw Lewis searching around to find every single crank he found to be damaged or out of tolerance.
And i deside to help him since i had a few. I told him i had two a performance one and a standard. Since the last minute i was very attemped to dont sell it as it WAS LIKE NEW. So i polished all the journals (wich mean if it was a MARK there i would have seen it for sure.) and packed it as better as was possible (wich mean couldnt be damage at transport even it was falling from 10 floors),oil the Journals so will not rust (even if it was fallen into the sea) and sent it over. I was that sure the crank was ok that i told Lewis if it was going to fail i would made a refund asap +++++++ new bearing ++++new gasket set+++++new rings set. (Lewis can verify this).
It would be stupid to do so if it was a faulty item...Whats your opinion?
I dont know what you say about the invoice of the machine shop and what was the reason behind the suggestion of not guranteed to use it.
What is this? A crank could be good to use or not good to use..that so or so responce dosent belong to a machine shop with mesurment tools.
And i remember Lewis pm saing machine shop said ok. I may still have it.
When you check a crank you check the journal on a round way not just open the box...How happend not to see a fault?...Maybe because it wasnt a fault when you open it.
Anyway i cant blame you or machine shop or whoever touch it..but damage had happend 110% after opening the box.I take it you had install the seal then...
(just kiding ..i cant blame you of anything but maybe you need to refund Lewis Just a suggestion as yours! Kiding again)Edit: Just a litle bit of history http://www.toyotagtturbo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67127
Chris
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sx_turbo
Lifer
machine shop said they crack tested it and it was cracked.
they offered to attempt to grind the cracks out, but they couldnt garuntee the cracks could grind out, and so after debate between lewis and yourself lewis decided to take the crank and get it fitted, as you garunteed it would be fine, as you said above.
it was lewis decision, at the end of the day.
i then fitted the crank and oil pump and noticed the scoring.
to be fair i never checked this part of the crank, only the journals, so i cannot say whether the damage was there or not when it was recieved.
the engineers also never mentioned this damage of where the seal sits.
i wish to discuss this no further, as you said it's between you and lewis, and i wish to have no further part in this.
i've lost to much time already,
they offered to attempt to grind the cracks out, but they couldnt garuntee the cracks could grind out, and so after debate between lewis and yourself lewis decided to take the crank and get it fitted, as you garunteed it would be fine, as you said above.
it was lewis decision, at the end of the day.
i then fitted the crank and oil pump and noticed the scoring.
to be fair i never checked this part of the crank, only the journals, so i cannot say whether the damage was there or not when it was recieved.
the engineers also never mentioned this damage of where the seal sits.
i wish to discuss this no further, as you said it's between you and lewis, and i wish to have no further part in this.
i've lost to much time already,
350ep70gr
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I think this post you made explains everything... Regard the crack you said well could be..(wich i daut) but i dont have an x-ray machine at home
If they look under the crome by x-ray it well could be..(keep in mind tho they will charge 20 euros for checking and 200 euros if they going to regrind + bearings..and you dont have an x-ray machine or magnaflux at home to back up or deniy their opinion).But how they saw what happend under the surface and miss the OBVIOUS fucked jurnal?
Anyway i wish to discuss this no further aswell and the best thing is to delete our post cause dont belong here..!You start first!
Chris
Blak_Mamber
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I dont even know where to start on this lol... I havnt even mentioned this so unsure of how its just exploded on this thread
I have always been happy & appreciative of everyones help on this. Always thanking people as much as i can etc.. Never blamed anyone once. I've just been listening to the pro's as i have no engine building experience at all...i'm just learning. So if i'm being told that the crank is fine & needs no polishing, im going to go along with that. I have paid out for whatever needs doing as ive just wanted to get the engine back as good as it can be.
I'm never going to get down to the bottom of the crank business... I dont really have a leg to stand on to be honest so im just treating it as £200+ down the drain.
Really feel like Ricky's had enough stress from this car & feel really bad for him thinking that someones pointing the finger his way... I cant really express my appreciation any more than i already have for Ricky's help, time, knowlege, countless PM's etc.. If i had the money right now i would pay Ricky any amount of cash that he wanted...but ive just spend so much recently trying to fix things & get shit sorted asap so i can actually get this car out for the summer...
Bet Ricky wishes he never met me lol :kiss:
I have always been happy & appreciative of everyones help on this. Always thanking people as much as i can etc.. Never blamed anyone once. I've just been listening to the pro's as i have no engine building experience at all...i'm just learning. So if i'm being told that the crank is fine & needs no polishing, im going to go along with that. I have paid out for whatever needs doing as ive just wanted to get the engine back as good as it can be.
I'm never going to get down to the bottom of the crank business... I dont really have a leg to stand on to be honest so im just treating it as £200+ down the drain.
Really feel like Ricky's had enough stress from this car & feel really bad for him thinking that someones pointing the finger his way... I cant really express my appreciation any more than i already have for Ricky's help, time, knowlege, countless PM's etc.. If i had the money right now i would pay Ricky any amount of cash that he wanted...but ive just spend so much recently trying to fix things & get shit sorted asap so i can actually get this car out for the summer...
Bet Ricky wishes he never met me lol :kiss:
350ep70gr
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@chris, i would delete my posts but people have seen and qouted them now, so it would be upto admin to clean the thread up. no hard feelings dude
Ok it is up to a mod or admin to clean the mess we made!
No hard feelings at all dude :kiss:
Have one:beer:
I hope you will help Lewis with the scratches tho..! This car need to roll down the streets in perfect condition!
Chris
Blak_Mamber
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Here are some pics i took last night of the crank. Somewhere along the line it has managed to pick up a nasty score mark
350ep70gr
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I was scared when i opened you pm with the photos.
And also i dont think this is repairable as it looks toooo deep.
And very IMPOSIBLE to the machine shop to miss this as it will saw at magnaflux from a distance of 1 mile away as it will be all green. Even on X-ray method will have shown up like a big dark spot. Way to big and too long..to miss.
As a side note ... small lines like scratches on the other journals indicate dirty workshop or enviroment or tools or hands when install bearing..but this is something else. Mark@CMB need to see this as we talk about this yesterday..
Chris
And also i dont think this is repairable as it looks toooo deep.
And very IMPOSIBLE to the machine shop to miss this as it will saw at magnaflux from a distance of 1 mile away as it will be all green. Even on X-ray method will have shown up like a big dark spot. Way to big and too long..to miss.
As a side note ... small lines like scratches on the other journals indicate dirty workshop or enviroment or tools or hands when install bearing..but this is something else. Mark@CMB need to see this as we talk about this yesterday..
Chris