Fusion Motorsport, Bad Rep.

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Fusion Ed

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Its not worked as I will not work with customers who take that approach. Why should I? As soon as anything doesn't go to plan they play the joker card on you.

I've seen this before, and its extremely difficult when you *want* to help someone when they do this.

People also expect too much too quickly.
How can you in a single day simulate and check every operating condition under which a car will operate? Its simply not possible. Customers also have to realise that they themselves have a part to play with this and accept if they choose to drive hundreds of miles (against recommendation )and use equipment which is essentially attempting to cut costs as well as something which is so unstable most tuners wont touch (which an e-manage is to both) there may be additional things that need looking at which appear later.

Testing an ECU or complex piggyback manipulator under every operating condition on one day is impossible and can never cover everything. Also even when it does leave all working fine there is no guarantee that it will stay that way with these units.

I am trying to help Iain here by checking this remotely via his logs, which I can guarantee there will not be enough data to do what I need to do properly. Obviously the real answer is the car needs to come to the workshop to put my logging kit on it and do it properly. Is it right/fair that I cannot follow up a job because the customer feels they are too far away to bring the car to me? I understand that would be at great expense to Iain, surely it is reasonable for me to request this given that I didn't force him to come here and indeed suggested on many occasions he should go to someone local which doesn't then make any follow on works extremely expensive.

Ed
 

Rory

Lifer
The only problems that the Emange has, is the Nissan's ECU fights back basically, therefor having to re-map everytime.

No problems with the Toyota in this sense.
 

lanxter

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never heard of any problems with emanage..

cant beleive half of stuff you have replyed with, guy payed for a service but yet your telling him to go somewhere else to fix the problems hes having after with it.
 

Nick@TD.co.uk

Registered Trader <a href="http://www.TuningD
Would it be possible for someone to tell me which sensor's have been wired into the EMU unit on your wiring? Would you be able to send these logs/map over to me and i'll take a look also to aid you sorting the problem sooner.

Many Thanks
~Nick @ Tuning Developments
 

Iain@CRD

Lifer
Its not worked as I will not work with customers who take that approach. Why should I? As soon as anything doesn't go to plan they play the joker card on you.

I've seen this before, and its extremely difficult when you *want* to help someone when they do this.

People also expect too much too quickly.
How can you in a single day simulate and check every operating condition under which a car will operate? Its simply not possible. Customers also have to realise that they themselves have a part to play with this and accept if they choose to drive hundreds of miles (against recommendation )and use equipment which is essentially attempting to cut costs as well as something which is so unstable most tuners wont touch (which an e-manage is to both) there may be additional things that need looking at which appear later.

Testing an ECU or complex piggyback manipulator under every operating condition on one day is impossible and can never cover everything. Also even when it does leave all working fine there is no guarantee that it will stay that way with these units.

I am trying to help Iain here by checking this remotely via his logs, which I can guarantee there will not be enough data to do what I need to do properly. Obviously the real answer is the car needs to come to the workshop to put my logging kit on it and do it properly. Is it right/fair that I cannot follow up a job because the customer feels they are too far away to bring the car to me? I understand that would be at great expense to Iain, surely it is reasonable for me to request this given that I didn't force him to come here and indeed suggested on many occasions he should go to someone local which doesn't then make any follow on works extremely expensive.

Ed

Ed,

I stated i was extremely satisfied with the service you gave on the day and still am with regards to the issues we had on the day. You went out of your way to help me on the day that YOU DID NOT have to do with my actuator. Im truely greatful for that.

I asked the trader who they recommended as im very particular and cautious about who touches my car. I heard good things about yourself and spent money on making the 900mile all around trip, hotel etc etc.

Yes you did ask if there was any local tuners and i phoned round the ones i had heard of and all stated "we dont touch E-Manage". Some said ignition timing was dodgy and so is the software, as you told me also on the day i had the latest software.

I've given it 4 months to get ahold of yourself and this resolved mate, i gave yourself 1 month with data logs and ive still not heared nothing back. 4 months is being greatful in my eyes, im very patient as you can tell.

Iain
 

Adam_Glanza

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could you possibly be having problems with your coolant temperature sensor iain?

that could be confusing the signal to the ecu and causing it to put too much or not enough fuel in?
 

sx_turbo

Lifer
he's already changed the sensors that could cause this, and has done countless of fault diagnoses.

i say cut your losses ian and take it elsewhere mate
 

sx_turbo

Lifer
just a thought why dont you use that guy who tuned rory's emu?

he is in scotland, cant remember who rory said it was dr something it was
 

Iain@CRD

Lifer
that *should throw a fault code up if its dodgy. done a fault code check yet buddy?

Theres no fault codes guys and i have replaced alot of sensors also with even a new toyota lamda sensor just incase and still nothing.

Ed has also emailed me back saying the data logs are corrupt and i now need to re-take these data logs and send them again.

Iain
 

dantheman

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mate your not ganna get anywhere by the looks of it, not asif your ganna make the journey back over again anyway... have a word with rorys guy. :)


Theres no fault codes guys and i have replaced alot of sensors also with even a new toyota lamda sensor just incase and still nothing.

Ed has also emailed me back saying the data logs are corrupt and i now need to re-take these data logs and send them again.

Iain
 

smythy75

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4 months = ask for some cash back since the job wasnt complete, if not go to the small claims court then go to nick jones to sort it out, with him having a business id say he could write a report for the small claims!

(worst case scenario)
 

Nick@TD.co.uk

Registered Trader <a href="http://www.TuningD
Cheers Dan :)
Replied to your Email sir, hopefully give you afew ideas, if you dont have the software and cable let me know and ill try and sort something for you or we can meet up somewhere.

Many Thanks
~Nick @ Tuning Developments
 

bildo

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Thanks for the warning, after the replies he's left in this thread I think I'll avoid Fusion Motorsport like the plague.
 
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