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weakboy2

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Ricky@JAP MAD said:
well when u dont get full boost till 4k, and your mate has a mini that hits full boost by 2.5k and your going round country lanes (in the uk) it is to laggy, by the time i come on boost i need to start braking for the next corner lol
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LOL you need to learn to keep it in the rev range, td04 is lovely!

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weakboy2 said:
LOL you need to learn to keep it in the rev range, td04 is lovely!

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x2 lol i cant beleve u think a td04 is lagy ricky i love how a td04 drives . as for the hybrids i dont like them at all u lose a lot of midrange imo as u can see i would have a ct9 over a hybrid imo as u get a nice wee punch out of them also u have to boost a hybrid really hard to get good power imo
 
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Ricky@JAP MAD said:
well when u dont get full boost till 4k, and your mate has a mini that hits full boost by 2.5k and your going round country lanes (in the uk) it is to laggy, by the time i come on boost i need to start braking for the next corner lol
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drive the car in a higher rev range then and keep it around 3.5k to 4k
 
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stu bears gt

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the fact that both turbo's hybrid and standard meet and drop at as what i can see 5000rpm you have a boost problem or fuel. this could be due to a presure build that stools your turbo......what fcd do you have mate as this could be linked to fuel jam kicks in when fuel cut is reached...this can be delayed and may need adjusting by coming in before 500rpm. and hks is constant therefore making you rich in low revs..therfore overfueling and making your setup lag. did you have 1 bar on your standard ct9?
i would advise to get an exhaust and get it remaped

hope this is helpfull bro, as its hard to no what your problem is without noing more info and looking at your graph
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ktl

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stu bears gt said:
the fact that both turbo's hybrid and standard meet and drop at as what i can see 5000rpm you have a boost problem or fuel. this could be due to a presure build that stools your turbo......what fcd do you have mate as this could be linked to fuel jam kicks in when fuel cut is reached...this can be delayed and may need adjusting by coming in before 500rpm. and hks is constant therefore making you rich in low revs..therfore overfueling and making your setup lag. did you have 1 bar on your standard ct9?
i would advise to get an exhaust and get it remaped

hope this is helpfull bro, as its hard to no what your problem is without noing more info and looking at your graph
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Thanks for the info mate... im looking out for a full system, and waiting for my mate to sel his blue.

I'm using a HKS fcd, set to 9. we tried using 8 but fuel cut kicked in.

The standard ct9 was set at 1 bar yes.

I'm hoping to make over 200 with an exhaust n map :)
 
TurboDave

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The RR graph before looks a lot smoother than with the hybrid, there must be something up because you should be making more torque lower down that you currently are.
 
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ktl

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could it be because i dont have an full exhaust system ? Apparently you gain torque when fitted ??
 
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Matchew

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A full exhaust will be less restrictive and more free flowing, once you get that and an emb you'll see 200 ish, i made 191 on a stock ct9
 
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Sparky

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IMO get the cat back system, decent management and a decent boost controller and it should be alot better.

4k full boost? Thats quite bad for a ct9 but the above mods would improve that.

I also prefer a standard ct9 over a hybrid, its alot of money for not alot of difference tbh
 
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ktl

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Sparky said:
IMO get the cat back system, decent management and a decent boost controller and it should be alot better.

4k full boost? Thats quite bad for a ct9 but the above mods would improve that.

I also prefer a standard ct9 over a hybrid, its alot of money for not alot of difference tbh
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got myself a gizmo boost controller, can get 1bar of boost by 3-3.2 now which im happy with.

I'm looking at the HKS1 a guy selling on here but he had the silncer cut off and aparently its LOUD.. am i being a wussy lol ??

I was aving a go with my mates ct9 @ 1 bar and he was keeping up with me even though on paper he has lower bhp.

And my mate with ecu n ct9 @ 1 bar i couldnt beat him. So the standard ct9 is incredibly good.

Hopefully when i push it to 1.2,1.3 bar on this hybrid with ecu then i better get good gains lol.

thanks for all your inputs!!
 
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Sparky

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Thats when you will notice the difference mate, get it up at 1.3bar :)

3k rpm sounds about right for a hybrid, I was getting 1 bar by 2.5k on a ct9a
 
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ktl

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Sparky said:
Thats when you will notice the difference mate, get it up at 1.3bar :)

3k rpm sounds about right for a hybrid, I was getting 1 bar by 2.5k on a ct9a
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Yeah, forged engine now so just an ecu n exhaust nd ill be happy!!

thats good i was getting it at 2800
 
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ktl

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stu bears gt said:
the fact that both turbo's hybrid and standard meet and drop at as what i can see 5000rpm you have a boost problem or fuel. this could be due to a presure build that stools your turbo......what fcd do you have mate as this could be linked to fuel jam kicks in when fuel cut is reached...this can be delayed and may need adjusting by coming in before 500rpm. and hks is constant therefore making you rich in low revs..therfore overfueling and making your setup lag. did you have 1 bar on your standard ct9?
i would advise to get an exhaust and get it remaped

hope this is helpfull bro, as its hard to no what your problem is without noing more info and looking at your graph
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You got me thinking so i had a look at previous graphs and they all seem to do the same... a slight dip at around 4000-4500.

and torque is around 70-100 on most graphs.

http://www.ukstarletclub.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=11828

must be a turbo thing ?
 
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stu bears gt

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ktl said:
You got me thinking so i had a look at previous graphs and they all seem to do the same... a slight dip at around 4000-4500.

and torque is around 70-100 on most graphs.

http://www.ukstarletclub.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=11828

must be a turbo thing ?
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looked at the graphs bro and theres none that have matching points especially before and after. with a blue you would see better results anyway and inialates fcd and fpr on terms of decant fueling and engine tweeks, but i find it weired that with a lower electrical signal you hit cut! studying your graph mate i would say that your turbo is getting stalled/restricted due to the fact it can breath easily then hits your restrictive stock piping creating back presure. let me no the result when you get your exhaust i would say 200+ plus. if you want more torque mate i would consider header work or adjust your ignition timing but this would meen you loose power at higher rpm. if you wanted a good gain in my eyes i would increase your compression ratio as this would be most benifitial for a serious increase with hardly any loss.
 
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ktl

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stu bears gt said:
looked at the graphs bro and theres none that have matching points especially before and after. with a blue you would see better results anyway and inialates fcd and fpr on terms of decant fueling and engine tweeks, but i find it weired that with a lower electrical signal you hit cut! studying your graph mate i would say that your turbo is getting stalled/restricted due to the fact it can breath easily then hits your restrictive stock piping creating back presure. let me no the result when you get your exhaust i would say 200+ plus. if you want more torque mate i would consider header work or adjust your ignition timing but this would meen you loose power at higher rpm. if you wanted a good gain in my eyes i would increase your compression ratio as this would be most benifitial for a serious increase with hardly any loss.
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Thanks for the info mate. I am trying to get hold of an exhaust system though thats for sure.

Ahhh i just gone forged using low comp pistons lol
 
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