I am F**king Pissed Off!!!!!!

I agree there ARE a small minority of idiots and I also agree that those type of people, in the situations you described ARE scum. But, not once have I seen any actual REAL evidence of rape etc happening out there. The idiots in the forces are kept in the lower ranks because of their attitude and are kept inline by their superiors who are put in place because they are reliable enough not to commit scum-like acts and are also able to control the ones are more likely to. Sorry but I will still view our forces as a whole as reasonable people so I am not going to be persuaded by some news station (who are in it to make money with big headlines) that has NO evidence and a dubious story to begin with.

Thats fine mate and as I said it is a small minority. All I am saying is to say that they are whiter than white isnt true, so thats why I can understand the muslims protesting against them as all they will see is the headline of their innocent people being killed. We would do the same in their position so who are we to judge just because they are muslim doesnt mean they have no rights. For people to come on and say narrow mineded things like people have in this thread is what annoys me. If you read my posts they all say that the soliders are very brave and all say that a few people in the forces are scum bags who commit these innocent killings etc. And the reasons behind why there is so many troops over there is Americas and the UK's fault for getting greddy for money and oil and that is a fact. Its not the troops faults but the fault of the political leaders like George Bush and Tony Blair etc its all about money which is hidden behind terriorism.
Christy
 

gv1.3

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these protesters will take any opportunity they get to further their cause.

All I can say is thank god for these troops because soon we will need them in our own countries to fight off these protesters when they get the call to rise up and try to take power.

And to those that were out protesting... if they feel that strongly about things go to the middle east countries and assist the people there or stand up and protest when acts of terror are carried out around the world... no they wont do that because they only have one agenda and it is NOT PEACE!
 

Glanza Gaz

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Thats fine mate and as I said it is a small minority. All I am saying is to say that they are whiter than white isnt true, so thats why I can understand the muslims protesting against them as all they will see is the headline of their innocent people being killed. We would do the same in their position so who are we to judge just because they are muslim doesnt mean they have no rights. For people to come on and say narrow mineded things like people have in this thread is what annoys me. If you read my posts they all say that the soliders are very brave and all say that a few people in the forces are scum bags who commit these innocent killings etc. And the reasons behind why there is so many troops over there is Americas and the UK's fault for getting greddy for money and oil and that is a fact. Its not the troops faults but the fault of the political leaders like George Bush and Tony Blair etc its all about money which is hidden behind terriorism.
Christy
Yeah I agree with you, it was just when you brought up the alledged stories, as there was no evidence behind them as I have mentioned earlier the 'news' companies are out to make money and dont care about the consequences. Like-wise, too many stories are also being made labelling pretty much ALL Muslims as big bad terrorists, when in actual fact based on my experiences they have been some of the nicest people I have met. Yet all these stories are doing is alienating the British muslim population even further and maybe even making them feel more related to those fighting our troops over in the East. I mean how are they supposed to feel 'proud' to be British, or even British at all if stereo-typical stories are constantly being made about them in our newspapers etc portraying them as evil?!?!
 

tucka

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so you understand why they was protesting! is it not narrow minded on there part to assume everything they see on the news is true! do you!! and them realise the ppl we have lost trying to rid the country of the terriosts! that the ppl who live there say the british troops cant leave as the taliban will move back in and destroy everything they have built back up!

they may have been a couple of insidents with prisoners (taliban) who were miss treated!when it all first broke out!but that was only a hand full of insidents which all were delt with! but i have never heard of britsh men rapping muslim women while there out there or going out to kill children.

innocent ppl do get killed its called cross fire it happens, even the americans have killed our own men, we dont hold up banners saying things like all american soliders should die!!


this is a quote from ross kemp who served out there, and what he said on the matter in the news

These people are deluded.

They wouldn’t have the right to demonstrate if it wasn’t for the sacrifice of solders like the Anglians.

Instead their banners should have been saying “Thank you”.

It’s a very sad sight, and shows how little they really understand about what soldiers do out there.



says it all really
 

tucka

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i also like to quote

Muslim MP and Justice Minister Shahid Malik said: “All decent people will be sickened by the antics of this group of extremists. The idea that these soldiers are ‘baby killers’ is profoundly repugnant.”
 

Phil

Super Moderator
they're british born muslims who are using their right to protest. i don't agree one bit with their actions though.

and that is what we allowed to happen by not using the tax payers money to fly them out quick enough.

its too late.

its our fault.

sadly.

Phil
 

gv1.3

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its never too late Phil... people perceive that there are still options left... those options are getting less and less everyday and eventually there will only be one option and when that day comes political correctness will go out the window and the Western world will be forced to deal with these people.
 

Phil

Super Moderator
nah, its too late alright.

too many people here already, it would actually encourage alot of NI loyalists that perhaps the whole united ireland thing is a better future than continued links with a PC whingey england.

im not sure what would be best, at the minute the Uk economy is holding up slightly better than ROI but maybe its just better versed on "putting a good face on a bad job"

NI and ROI welcome non radical hard workers, polish workers rather than muslims, not that there isnt plenty here just not enough to survive if they started a war. thats just as per what i noticed myself.

as for whether or not the muslims will ever manage to front an all out war in the UK, i dont know, i dont really care. i suppose it'll just end when they start a war with Israel not us.

Phil
 
They should ave been able to have choose a better time to protest than at a homecoming parade.
If they don't like what the country is doing then get out

SIMPLE AS!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

scotty01

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There all terrorists in the bigger scale of things there is alot of innocent people being killed over there for what? Poxy oil and money.
And its all because of this retard fuck.
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I think you will find his dad started it before he did;)

For all those who say innocent people shouldn't be killed in war........how exactly do you suggest that happens??

Have a read of a book called sniper one it is about the war in Al ammarah in Iraq. The local freedom fighters lob mortars in the middle of a town daily.......hmmm they give a fuck about the local women and children don't they??? Then theres the bloke cycling past in the middle of a firefight who gets blown up by an RPG if i remember correctly etc etc.

It's war... yeah it's about oil...freedom for locals....democracy etc but at the end of the day it's still war!!! Neither side will back down cos they don't want to lose face. Tbh the majority of people will never understand war as it makes great reading in the paper or TV for you and me to watch and condem as barbaric and pointless..... but just remember Tyrants like hitler, mussolinni etc without a war or 2 the majority of the world would be speaking fuckin GERMAN! Is that barbaric??? You want to bitch about atrocities raping and torture.....look up a few places....Belsen....treblinka.....auschwitz....polish ghetto's.....DR mengele etc!! That is real barbaric stuff!! I'm not saying the current events are all roses and light but they are nothing compared to what people your ages and younger went through 60years ago to give you the freedom to speak your minds.
All those who protest about the war in afghanistan/iraq should be put on a plane an dumped there to see just how fuckin marvelous living under dictators like saddam really is!!!
 
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gv1.3

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I think you will find his dad started it before he did;)

true ... and I think people from the UK should look a bit closer to home... nobody forced your ex-PM to get involved he is as responsible as anyone else.

I think all concentration should be shifted to domestic security and let those in the East go back to their dictorial ways. Hopefully alternative energy sources will be here pretty soon and then the middle east can go and F off.

At that stage our security forces can concentrate on the domestic threat these people pose and rid our democratic world of such extremeists.
 

dantheman

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theyre just a bunch of fuckin retards.. them saying ALL the british soldiers are this and that, is like us saying all muslims are terrorists.. :confused: they should have been shot there and then :shoot:
 

gv1.3

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theyre just a bunch of fuckin retards.. them saying ALL the british soldiers are this and that, is like us saying all muslims are terrorists.. :confused: they should have been shot there and then :shoot:

but Dan... they are allowed say that. Just like they are allowed attack other religions. But if you do something even as simple as drawing a cartoon about their religion they will condem you and put threats on your life.

They have forced people in the west into a position where we are branded racists if we question them or speak our minds.
 

dantheman

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exactly mate you hit the nail on the head there.. :mad:

apperently there is such a thing as 'freedom of speech' in the united kingdom.. :rolleyes:
 

Ben89

Lifer
as somebody that lives in luton im was actually imbarressed to see this everywhere, i cant beleive these people are so desperate to disrupt everything that they would do this, i think they need to take a minute and think of what are soldiers-police-nhs-inland revenue and the country in general are doing for them and then take a good look at themselves.
 

Phil

Super Moderator
its not racism though. id happily see a white Northern irish man punished if he believed his religion muslim protestant catholic or otherwise instructed him to commit murder on a small or grand scale.

speak your mind dylan, apparrently its a free country LOL lets organise a protest at a mosque :) oh no hold on.... yeah its only a free country if your not from here. if your british you only qualify for a spectators pass :(

so yeah we are helpless.

Phil
 

gv1.3

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apparently there is... but let me assure you that if you got a group of people together and went on an anti islam march lets see how long it would last.
 

Ben89

Lifer
yea it would be closed down within seconds and then photos ofyour face would be being burnt everywhere!
 
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