Oil catch can pics (engine bay)

GTdan

In The Closet
DO IT LIKE THIS:

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Remember... no filter on the catch can.
In the above photo you could move the filter to the 1&2 spark plug vent... though a larger filter there would be a good idea if your running high power.
Check the inside of the 1&2 spark plug vent often as itll get oiled up over time.

im confused as im pretty sure that all oil catch can kits i have seen - have been fitted as originally above.

So your saying that all kits are fitted incorrectly - bearing in mine that some have been fitted by traders such as toby and dave??
 

MWP

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So your saying that all kits are fitted incorrectly - bearing in mine that some have been fitted by traders such as toby and dave??

Yup, thats what im saying.

99% of people forget (or just dont know) that the PCV system is there to get clean-air into the crankcase as well as stopping pressure build up from blowby.

Most people will look at a race-car setup and think that its also ok for a road car... its not.
Race cars have their oil replaced and engines rebuilt much more often than street cars and because of this dont need the PCV system... they just need to get the blowby gasses out.

assume this is "wrong" then?

Photo is too small to say... cant see where the lines are going.
 

GTdan

In The Closet
Photo is too small to say... cant see where the lines are going.

well it basically goes from rocker cover to pipe on catch can.
other exit on catch can to atmosphere as per photo from nick at tuning developments how is was set up :confused:
 

MWP

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well it basically goes from rocker cover to pipe on catch can.
other exit on catch can to atmosphere as per photo from nick at tuning developments how is was set up :confused:

Well its wrong because most of the oil your trying to stop getting into the inlet gets in via the PCV valve -> inlet manifold line.
This is where the catch can should be.
 

GTdan

In The Closet
just looked in my banzai mag at wepr demo car - sacha has got a breather filter on the rocker cover, and only one hose going to the catch can - but cant see where it connects too, but there is only one green hose.

im not calling you a lier MWP - but if you are correct - why has the vast majority (edit - not everyone) got it set up in pictures? inc traders who do motorsport too not just pootle round town on a sunday?
 

MWP

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im not calling you a lier MWP - but if you are correct - why has the vast majority (edit - not everyone) got it set up in pictures? inc traders who do motorsport too not just pootle round town on a sunday?

This is what ive been trying to work out too.

Im guessing that someone copied a racing setup and it just went from there...
I dont think many people have really given it a 2nd thought as to what the PCV system on a street car is meant to do, so they just copy everyone elses wrong setup.

BTW, if you want further info on how the PCV system works, there is a chapter about it in the Toyota training manuals on autoshop101.
 

GTdan

In The Closet
in that case then - what size is the rocker cover so i can get a breather filter and also what size is the hosing so i can get some new hosing to go to pcv valve.
 

Blak_Mamber

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Thanks mate. Big help. I actually remember Dave Burwash showing me to use this method on my motor. Which I will now do... :D

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Iceman

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Well that means weekend i will be putting in my oil catch can also cause i was not sure how to fit it since there was so many variations as to how to set that up but now i have the correct setup i will give it a try and see. Thanks mcuh guyz.
 

Rory

Lifer
Yes i agree on the PVC, hence mine is gutted, and acting as a normal breather,a nd not working in conjunction with the inlet manifold vacume to operate.

Cant understand how air is being sucked in via the open port?
It breathes out, as if it breathes in then surely you are going to presurise the engine.

Another question, Why when you take the oil cap off when the car is running, the engine is breathing out, and not sucking in? From what you are saying, this should suck in?

Im not saying your/this setup is wrong, but i know mine works.
The PVC in my setup is gutted and is acting as a normal breather, as is the port between # 1 and 2 plugs.
The setup i have in place is simple but very effective, that works.

95% of the time a street car is not on boost.
During this time the PCV system (if setup correctly) should be sucking crankcase gasses out and sucking clean air in.

When this happens, the crankcase gas is being sucked out of the PCV valve into the inlet manifold, and the clean air is being pulled in via the other vent line (between the 1&2 spark plugs).

To stop oil getting into the inlet manifold you want a sealed (no air-filter!!!) catch can on the PCV->inlet manfold line.

You are correct, during boost the PCV valve will close and blowby will go out the vent line into the inlet (before turbo) instead which isnt desirable... but this in reality doesnt happen often.
You can fix this by putting a small air filter on the vent between the 1&2 spark plugs instead of running it back to the inlet.

I hope that makes sense...
 
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