Osama Bin Laden Dead
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Giving away the money is the way go fight the inflation! Sort of move the inflation from one country to another, like the USA did just after the WW2!
Research the topic on google, theres too much evidence floating around on there suggesting links between the taliban and pakistan, even in the movie '4 Lions', they state that Pakistan is supporting the Taliban.
Also Pakistan get VERY touchy about foreign forces going in and conducting an Op on their land, a bunch of Yanks going in and raiding a mansion right next door to their official training camp could insight something twitchy.
Also Pakistan get VERY touchy about foreign forces going in and conducting an Op on their land, a bunch of Yanks going in and raiding a mansion right next door to their official training camp could insight something twitchy.
glanzanut
Lifer
First of all why would the American goverment lie about him being dead, theres no motive.
If they were going to do that then it would have been more benificial to have lied about it years ago.
And it doesnt matter how much money the campaign cost, because he needed to die end of!
And yes its sad about civillian casualties, and armed forces personel dying, but look how many people die under the rule of dictators and terrorists.
There will no doubt be revenge attacks, but we cant let that influence how we deal with these evil scum.
And im bloody sure if id been through 9/11 and lost members of family or friends id be out celebrating that the piece of shit is dead.
We shouldnt stop till every one of the terrorist bastards are dead and rotting.
If they were going to do that then it would have been more benificial to have lied about it years ago.
And it doesnt matter how much money the campaign cost, because he needed to die end of!
And yes its sad about civillian casualties, and armed forces personel dying, but look how many people die under the rule of dictators and terrorists.
There will no doubt be revenge attacks, but we cant let that influence how we deal with these evil scum.
And im bloody sure if id been through 9/11 and lost members of family or friends id be out celebrating that the piece of shit is dead.
We shouldnt stop till every one of the terrorist bastards are dead and rotting.
The motivation lies behind the fact that human rights campaigners (Binladen or not) are idiotic people and would still protest for his rights and America would be put under a bad light.
If the public as a whole is informed that he is dead then America are free to do with him whatever they wish without some poncy assed hippies getting up in arms about it. Osama is a much more valuable source of information than he is a corpse. He will have direct links to the majority of suppliers who deal to the bastards whom we are fighting against. If they are shut down the insurgents will be weakened. MASSIVELY and could potentially lead to the fall of the insurgents over there.
A lot of the 'extremists' in Afghanistan are only extremists because the suppliers and head honchos of the Taliban tell them it is the right thing to do and they cant read so cant read the Kuran (sp) to know otherwise.
glanzanut
Lifer
What a load of rubbish
You could peel the flesh from his bones and he would never give you any info, and if they wanted to hold him they wouldnt need to hide it from campaigners as a minority.
They went in there with orders to kill no matter what, because if he had been taken alive then next thing you know 747's full of passengers would be boarded by nut jobs with bombs demanding his release.
So basically your saying he is still alive? Do you believe Elvis is alive too?
Read my 1st post. Its a theory. How much military experience do you have in order to dispute what Im saying?
Do you no Binladen personally and have experience torturing him to know what he will and wont give in when you do use certain methods of torture? Sorry I never realised you had history.
Afghans are surprisingly talkative people. Especially if they are religious as they must reply to you if you speak to them in the correct manner.
no matter who he is, the law is stillk the law and a government of a high ranking country cannot be seen to be breaking it.
TERRORISTS were stripped and beaten and put in humiliating poses. The world went into uproar. Those same people planted IED's in roads and fired 7.62mm rounds at NATO forces. Yet those cretinous hippy pricks still went wild about it screaming for human rights.
So yes, it would make a lot of sense to take him alive for questioning, kill everyone else in the house as they are not of any value, do not allow anyone else to enter the building, as has been done, report him dead, the nut jobs also believe he is dead and security was ramped up when his death was announced UK wide to counter any after attacks.
Elvis would be far too old now to be alive so dont be silly
Do you no Binladen personally and have experience torturing him to know what he will and wont give in when you do use certain methods of torture? Sorry I never realised you had history.
Afghans are surprisingly talkative people. Especially if they are religious as they must reply to you if you speak to them in the correct manner.
no matter who he is, the law is stillk the law and a government of a high ranking country cannot be seen to be breaking it.
TERRORISTS were stripped and beaten and put in humiliating poses. The world went into uproar. Those same people planted IED's in roads and fired 7.62mm rounds at NATO forces. Yet those cretinous hippy pricks still went wild about it screaming for human rights.
So yes, it would make a lot of sense to take him alive for questioning, kill everyone else in the house as they are not of any value, do not allow anyone else to enter the building, as has been done, report him dead, the nut jobs also believe he is dead and security was ramped up when his death was announced UK wide to counter any after attacks.
Elvis would be far too old now to be alive so dont be silly
williamocarroll1982
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Elvis would be far too old now to be alive so dont be silly
He would be 76 if he was alive today, I wouldn't consider that to be to old to be alive, I know LOADS of people that age or older
Did any of you actually know that Osama Bin Laden [sounds like Obama Bin laden -) both Hussein by the way] used to work for the CIA??? Also Saddam Hussein as well -) That is why they had to invade the country as Hussein knew the CIA methods -) Most of you guys know feck all about all those people and don't even know 1% of what the Government can do and you wouldn't even know about it!
sacodetoro
Lifer
Read my 1st post. Its a theory. How much military experience do you have in order to dispute what Im saying?
Do you no Binladen personally and have experience torturing him to know what he will and wont give in when you do use certain methods of torture? Sorry I never realised you had history.
Afghans are surprisingly talkative people. Especially if they are religious as they must reply to you if you speak to them in the correct manner.
no matter who he is, the law is stillk the law and a government of a high ranking country cannot be seen to be breaking it.
TERRORISTS were stripped and beaten and put in humiliating poses. The world went into uproar. Those same people planted IED's in roads and fired 7.62mm rounds at NATO forces. Yet those cretinous hippy pricks still went wild about it screaming for human rights.
So yes, it would make a lot of sense to take him alive for questioning, kill everyone else in the house as they are not of any value, do not allow anyone else to enter the building, as has been done, report him dead, the nut jobs also believe he is dead and security was ramped up when his death was announced UK wide to counter any after attacks.
Elvis would be far too old now to be alive so dont be silly
That is all pure balls.
Firstly, al qaieda(spelling) is a cell structured organisation, similar to that of the PIRA in the 80s who reorganised their structure due to the fact that when the leaders where interned the organisation was effectively disabled for a period so they re-orged to a cell structure which means that "cutting off the head of the organisaton" has little effect and nobody knows anything about the other cells etc so that one person can't give away intel about the rest of the organisation as they dont know the info in the first place.
Osama wasn't operationally active for years because it was impossible for him due to his profile, the only contact he had with the world was couriers.
Couriers who the US have identified, once they have the couriers they dont need osama for intel.
As said above, a lot of terrorist attacks and kidnappings are always for the release of a prisoner, a release that will never come.
Since when did a head of state work for the CIA, that is utter balls and certainly isnt the reason they went to war don't be so nieve
We all know that the CIA funded the mujahadeen in the 80s in their war against Russia. We also know osama was a mujahadeen commander, so of course he had contact with them. Most of them were trained by delta and SAS operators. A few of the operators have since released books on it.
We all know about the extraordinary renditions undertaken by the US and also about the "black sites" used for interrogation. Non of this isn't known by the public
markostarletturbo
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1 down Next stop Ayman al Zawahir
Starlet_Sam's_Mum
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One theory:
The CIA funded the Mujahideen of Afghanistan against Soviet occupation, the USA did not like the soviets (expanding) so it was in their interest.
Other theory:
The CIA did not fund a rich as fuck organisation who absolutlely hated the west.
Basically either one has potential and you will never know the right answer, consipiracy theorist make me laugh, you have no insider knowledge as you are not an insider, you will never know what happened.
Paul lad, when you start talking about, "Most of you guys know feck all about all those people and don't even know 1% of what the Government can do and you wouldn't even know about it!" this is so true and neither do you, its very hard to distinguish from whats true and whats not when it comes to government stuff.
Confessions of an Economic Hitman would be a good book for you to read. You've probably already read it.
Also, Al Qaeda confirmed Bin Laden was dead, or is that a conspiracy?
SupaStu
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Osama would not be talkative if captured. Also he is not an Afghan, he is a Saudi, from a rich and respected family. He is well educated and has been involved in wars for years, he will not talk. The Americans don't need him anyway. Did you see the state of the Villa he was staying in? The American spec ops team turned the place over to glean as much intel, laptops, hard drives, paperwork, USB drives, the whole lot.
Apart from the kill order, UK/US black ops teams have been doing this type of mission for the last few years in the late stages of Iraq to take down the main men. They get intel where the guy lives or will be, go in, take them out, and gather all evidence and leave. It proved to be highly effective in Iraq.
They had been watching the courier that worked for Osama for some time, as they knew that someone had to be passing on his messages, either by disc/video etc.
Osama is more use to the US dead than alive.
Apart from the kill order, UK/US black ops teams have been doing this type of mission for the last few years in the late stages of Iraq to take down the main men. They get intel where the guy lives or will be, go in, take them out, and gather all evidence and leave. It proved to be highly effective in Iraq.
They had been watching the courier that worked for Osama for some time, as they knew that someone had to be passing on his messages, either by disc/video etc.
Osama is more use to the US dead than alive.
faisalgtturbo
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all i can say is next stop for the west is pakistan ... they gonna try it on with us now...
faisal
faisal
markostarletturbo
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who/where do you mean by the "WEST" ? Or do you mean NATO ? NATO country's listed below 28 of them
Albania
Belgium
Bulgaria
Canada
Croatia
Czech Republic
Denmark
Estonia
France
Germany
Greece
Hungary
Iceland
Italy
Latvia
Lithuania
Luxembourg
Netherlands
Norway
Poland
Portugal
Romania
Slovakia
Slovenia
Spain
Turkey
United Kingdom
United States
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Starlet_Sam's_Mum
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And who's "us"?
It's not a theory it has been confirmed and proved many times by the Russians during the Afghan war - like I said long time ago if you had a chance to read different Media on different languages your point of view would change dramatically!
I personally know people who can confirm that you call a theory! They had american weapons - plenty of proof for that! The US spend Billions to do everything possible and impossible to make the USSR collapse but in the End it collapsed on it's own (luckily with minimal casualties) and after it collapsed the countries like Afghanistan become Independent - and it's only because of the Americans they still fight now - they fight on their money - The US funded Afghanistan or should I say funded Taliban???
Now about the Saddam Hussein - he become a president because the CIA helped him with that, the CIA thought that he will be loyal to them once he is in charge, but he refused to deal with the US afterwards, also as an ex-CIA agent he knew the methods and the USA did not succeed in killing him as they would normally do with those Leaders who doesn't deal with the USA. So the only way the USA had is to convince the world that he is a terrorist and therefore has done the 911 attacks after which a lot has changed in the US and they started a war in Iraq - saying that they're fighting a terrorism!
Basically they can do it over and over again they can kill their own citizens and point a finger on a country - make up a proof - the media will brainwash the people and here you go a new war with a country who doesn't want to deal with the USA, the only exception would be the countries with a Nuclear Power - as it is a suicide mission to fight against them - therefore they do everything possible and impossible to make sure that IRAN (next candidate) hasn't got a nuclear weapon and not even a Nuclear Powerplant (as they can learn the technology by having a powerplant).
When starting a war they USA - as well as Russia - profit from that - they use their old rockets, old planes, old weapons - so they get rid of it during the war, instead of scrapping it and paying money for that, also it's a good technique for money laundering on a massive scale and don't forget the political gains! Russia will benefit because they sell weapons - a lot of it, so Russians know about what the US does but they profit from it as well and say nothing.
- Most recent example the war in the Libya - Russia and China were the only countries in the UN who voted Neutral to start the war vs Kaddafi Regime - therefore they either got paid or had other forms of political gains from the USA and the EU. I don't know what gains China got for it but Russia was promised to be accepted to WTO and of course they will be able to sell more weapons, thus making more money!