Osama Bin Laden Dead

[Paul_JJ]

What would be the point in going to Pakistan? There's no oil there only thing Pakistan has that's of interest to the "west" is terrorists by the looks of things.
Faisal were you born in Britain? Or have you migrated here? of you don't mind me asking of course, just out of interest!

Open the world's map and have a look at the Pakistan's map! They're next to the IRAN!

THe USA wants to get the OIL from IRAN - they want to OWN their oil and make billions on it to do that they need a place to attack - obviosly from the Sea with their fleet but it makes the job harder to attack from the sea only, so they need a piece of land to make a base for their troops - therefore Pakistan would be ideal as it's next to the sea and they can deliver all the troops and vehicles by the sea!

As they already own the IRAQ they can attack Iran from both sides then from the Iraq and Pakistan and they already have some troops in Afghanistan + the Sea! If you do some research Iran's army is pretty big (well compared to Iraq let's say), so they will need more troops/vehicles to conquer it and ideally to attack from as many sides as possible - this way Iran won't be able to concentrate their army at one spot.

To do that they will need a reason - I won't be surprised if we'll have another 911 soon and that would be a "reason" to attack the Iran!

 

[Ben89]

I agree about the Iran thing, but I don't think they'll use the Iraq tactics to defeat Iran, I'll think theyll do much like they have done on Libya, main reason being is Iran and Pakistan are both nuclear armed also both have large armies, and no matter what you say I will not accept 9/11 and 7/7 were set up by governments, I've personally been effected by 7/7 and tbh I find it ridiculous that people can say this.

 

[Paul_JJ]

I agree about the Iran thing, but I don't think they'll use the Iraq tactics to defeat Iran, I'll think theyll do much like they have done on Libya, main reason being is Iran and Pakistan are both nuclear armed also both have large armies, and no matter what you say I will not accept 9/11 and 7/7 were set up by governments, I've personally been effected by 7/7 and tbh I find it ridiculous that people can say this.

OK I believe it can be hard to believe in 911, but remember the 3rd plane crashed in to the Pentagon? Please see the conspiracy theory on that and if you have a friend as a pilot - ask him if it is possible to do that on such a big plane! Any pilot will tell you that it's impossible to do what they've done on a massive plane. Also ask yourself a question if the Pentagon is the most secured building in the world with their AA rockets and 2 military airports nearby how on earth can a massive and slow passenger plane hit that???

 

[Ben89]

Hard to believe? Tbh i think there ridiculous like ive said, I've seen them I don't believe them I keep an open mind about things and enjoy watching and reading theories on stuff, like I say I find the 9/11 ones silly and pretty far fetched.

 

[Paul_JJ]

Hard to believe? Tbh i think there ridiculous like ive said, I've seen them I don't believe them I keep an open mind about things and enjoy watching and reading theories on stuff, like I say I find the 9/11 ones silly and pretty far fetched.

None of those parts belong to that massive plane which was hijacked! If you watched more pics and News Reporters who were first at the scene you would change your mind. Also look at the size of the hole in the building and find the size of the plane and none of over 80 cctv cameras caught a plane on the tape - weird ah?

 

[faisalgtturbo]

by the 'west' I mean the super powers mainly America and UK

and us means me as well cos I am Pakistani... even though i am born here/British.


hope that clears it up for u both


oh and those who don't think there is any oil in Pakistan go ask China haha

Faisal

 

[sacodetoro]

Paul, you sir are a fucking retard, without any shadow of a doubt.

Profit from a war? Absolute fucking bollocks, it costs a fortune and can only ever cost you money.

Shove your bullshit theories up your arse, they may feel at home there.

It's not just a news story, its tens of thousands of lives and for you to think that america or any other country wouldd waste billions so they can kill there own countrymen is ridiculous and insulting.

People join their countries security services to protect their country not destroy it and I can garauntee non of them would kill their own because of a secret order from a dickhead president who will be gone in 4 years.

 

[sacodetoro]

by the 'west' I mean the super powers mainly America and UK

and us means me as well cos I am Pakistani... even though i am born here/British.


hope that clears it up for u both


oh and those who don't think there is any oil in Pakistan go ask China haha

Faisal

Just out of interest Faisal, do you think of yourself as Pakistani or do you think of yourself as British primarily? Or do you think you are of say, dual nationality?

 

[Paul_JJ]

Paul, you sir are a fucking retard, without any shadow of a doubt.

Profit from a war? Absolute fucking bollocks, it costs a fortune and can only ever cost you money.

Shove your bullshit theories up your arse, they may feel at home there.

It's not just a news story, its tens of thousands of lives and for you to think that america or any other country wouldd waste billions so they can kill there own countrymen is ridiculous and insulting.

People join their countries security services to protect their country not destroy it and I can garauntee non of them would kill their own because of a secret order from a dickhead president who will be gone in 4 years.

War cost money, big money but who pays for it? taxpayers and why do you pay for it? because the government told you that such and such country is a terrorist threat to YOU.

I don't think - they're many scientific facts to prove it! You know what media told you - brainwash! If the media will tell everyone that you're the killer and a terrorist I would love to see you trying to say the opposite in front of millions of people who will believe the media, but would you be able to prove the opposite?

Just watch at least one of those series on the youtube before saying anything else. You will never see anything like that on TV - EVER!

Where was your fucking security service with fighter jets and AA missiles when the plane was heading towards the most secured building in the world - The Pentagon???

May be you want to listen to what people say? People who actually were inside twin towers like workers and firefighters???

 

[Starlet_Sam]

War cost money, big money but who pays for it? taxpayers and why do you pay for it? because the government told you that such and such country is a terrorist threat to YOU.

No, I pay for war because I pay tax, and the PAYE tax system makes evasion so damn hard. I simply never get the chance to lie about my income.

 

[Paul_JJ]

No, I pay for war because I pay tax, and the PAYE tax system makes evasion so damn hard. I simply never get the chance to lie about my income.

Well yeah, we simply have no choice! For example if the road tax money were used on the roads - then we would have the best roads in the world for sure!

 

[markostarletturbo]

by the 'west' I mean the super powers mainly America and UK

and us means me as well cos I am Pakistani... even though i am born here/British.


hope that clears it up for u both


oh and those who don't think there is any oil in Pakistan go ask China haha

Faisal

:haha::haha::haha:lmao

 

[Starlet_Sam]

by the 'west' I mean the super powers mainly America and UK

and us means me as well cos I am Pakistani... even though i am born here/British.


hope that clears it up for u both


oh and those who don't think there is any oil in Pakistan go ask China haha

Faisal

So by "the West" you mean....you.

 

[sacodetoro]

War cost money, big money but who pays for it? taxpayers and why do you pay for it? because the government told you that such and such country is a terrorist threat to YOU.

I don't think - they're many scientific facts to prove it! You know what media told you - brainwash! If the media will tell everyone that you're the killer and a terrorist I would love to see you trying to say the opposite in front of millions of people who will believe the media, but would you be able to prove the opposite?

Just watch at least one of those series on the youtube before saying anything else. You will never see anything like that on TV - EVER!

Where was your fucking security service with fighter jets and AA missiles when the plane was heading towards the most secured building in the world - The Pentagon???

May be you want to listen to what people say? People who actually were inside twin towers like workers and firefighters???

The argument wasn't about where governments get their money, you said they profit from war, which you contradicted above and rightly so.

The government don't get additional tax revenue during war so it leaves them with less money to spend on other things...

Non of what you have said is based on any fact....

People make mistakes, they followed the wrong planes etc an weren't even sure if some of them were hijacked at some stage, there were many failings in inter department communication and even people staying at their desks after the towers had been hit, but all those cumulative mistakes were across dozens of departments.

Jusy because the US fucked up doesn't mean they wanted it to happen.

Your argument is like peoples argument that God exists, "I have no facts to back up what I'm saying, but its true cus this guy saiys its true..."

I call Bullshit.

Sometimes terrorists succeed, it is never possble to prevent all attacks, you just need to hunt down the cunts and kill them when possible.

 

[markostarletturbo]

So by "the West" you mean....you.

My thought's exactly lol :haha::haha::haha: have some rep sam

 

[Paul_JJ]

The argument wasn't about where governments get their money, you said they profit from war, which you contradicted above and rightly so.

The government don't get additional tax revenue during war so it leaves them with less money to spend on other things...

Non of what you have said is based on any fact....

People make mistakes, they followed the wrong planes etc an weren't even sure if some of them were hijacked at some stage, there were many failings in inter department communication and even people staying at their desks after the towers had been hit, but all those cumulative mistakes were across dozens of departments.

Jusy because the US fucked up doesn't mean they wanted it to happen.

Your argument is like peoples argument that God exists, "I have no facts to back up what I'm saying, but its true cus this guy saiys its true..."

I call Bullshit.

Sometimes terrorists succeed, it is never possble to prevent all attacks, you just need to hunt down the cunts and kill them when possible.

Oh yeah it is possible to prevent an attack if we're talking about the military base - they plan prevention in advance! The air space around the Pentagon is a non flight zone, the plane went of course about an hour before it hit the Pentagon - takes about 10 min to get f16 in the air, takes Minutes for the AA missile - non to mention that it happened after the Twin Towers - so the military knew about potential attacks - and for God's sake especially the White House and/or the Pentagon.

See now you know that it is true and can't say nothing in return!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofXKiXNDDYA&feature=related

Shit loads of facts! Just find some time - it gets MORE and MORE interesting with every other series!

If you know any pilots - or even post it online and ask if it's possible to do 400 knots 20 feet above the ground for half a mile in a Boeing 757.

 

[faisalgtturbo]

i am not getting sucked in to this... last thread on for 30+ pages

my last reply

I am British .... but I don't like what is happening there is no need for the 'west' (as described above) to jump in were they see fit (oil)

why don't they go and rescue Palestinian people suffering in Gaza cos they got told to mind there fucking business that's why

I don't consider my self part of the 'west' who raid other countries...
and I don't support terrorist groups either...

its above me I no power to stop it

imo two wrongs never make it right.. never


peace out yo!!
faisal

 

[markostarletturbo]

i am not getting sucked in to this... last thread on for 30+ pages

my last reply

I am British .... but I don't like what is happening there is no need for the 'west' (as described above) to jump in were they see fit (oil)

why don't they go and rescue Palestinian people suffering in Gaza cos they got told to mind there fucking business that's why

I don't consider my self part of the 'west' who raid other countries...
and I don't support terrorist groups either...

its above me I no power to stop it

imo two wrongs never make it right.. never


peace out yo!!
faisal

:haha::haha::haha:lmao:haha::haha::haha:

You are part of it in your own words the west= US AND UK = Bradford = west Yorkshire =ENGLAND = UNITED KINGDOM :haha:

oil???? Osama Bin Laden is dead because he was a extremist and a terrorist

NEXT STOP Ayman al Zawahiri

 

[Texx]

Please can we all keep this to a friendly discussion, we do not want to see anymore name calling simply due to a difference in opinion.

 

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