Speedvision new billet cams 265 degrees and uprated valve springs

[speedvision]

with the amount of money spent on an item, you expect it to be what it says "direct fit", you shouldnt have to machine down, or file down an engine component, its a vital piece of the engine so you expect it to be built to the very best of quality.

If i ordered a cam set and it turned up were i would have to file it down etc, id send it straight back.

The statement is fair IMO, people have left bad feedback, and the thought of filing down an engine component is unreal.
The springs and Cams should be able to go together with no problems if you have manufactured them to an origional design and made them stronger, they should fit, and what pressure should they be at???

People may find my statement un true etc, but i will not be spending my money on something iv got to finish off myself to fit.

Sorry

sorry but not everyting will be perfect...in automotive racing we have found this out and a few mods here and there wont kill you if its not too much...the only thing i have gotten so far is a bit to file off for the cam gears to go onto...if this is hard for anyone then dont buy them...i dont see anything wrong with the fitment..

so u take bad feeback as filing the cam for the gear to fit?

wearing of the cam is another story which no one up to now has an answer for and i put it down for having the springs at a high pressure which will defo do it...

and i aint arguring with u..i just said it wasnt a fair statement..u got ur feedback ..u read it ..then dont buy it..

thanks
sam

 

[BallıGee]

im using cruise springs now

 

[danturbo4311]

glanzagee i had the exact same problem as you have described with the intake gear which is tensioned, were it had been badly machined the outer gear on the intake cam doesnt go on right as theres a gap between the 2 gears, i had to machine that part of the cam down to, I had to machine the oil gallerys aswell becuase they were badly done, along with also having to machine the part of the exhaust cam were the pulley for the timing belt goes around as that doesnt bolt straight on either, & I can see why some people maybe having problems with there timing belts if they have not had the cams re-machined to fit the pulley & gears properly.
Its not that its a major problem with the cam sam like you said the main problem is the spring pressure. But its just that if you pay 399usd for cams you at least expect them to be machined well so you dont have to worry about those kind of problems.

 

[speedvision]

glanzagee...do u kno the pressure u fitted the springs at?

sam

 

[nutta]

sorry but not everyting will be perfect...in automotive racing we have found this out and a few mods here and there wont kill you if its not too much...the only thing i have gotten so far is a bit to file off for the cam gears to go onto...if this is hard for anyone then dont buy them...i dont see anything wrong with the fitment..

so u take bad feeback as filing the cam for the gear to fit?

wearing of the cam is another story which no one up to now has an answer for and i put it down for having the springs at a high pressure which will defo do it...

and i aint arguring with u..i just said it wasnt a fair statement..u got ur feedback ..u read it ..then dont buy it..

thanks
sam

As i said mate, its my opinion, not here to start arguments etc...

I supply cams, blocks, heads, etc etc etc for all types of motorsports, all types of cars, and not once has a customer had to file down there own cams, iv never heard of doing that before, thats why i wont be buying them.

you keep saying about the correct pressure, so what is the correct pressure to go with the cams and spring combo???

cheers

 

[speedvision]

glanzagee i had the exact same problem as you have described with the intake gear which is tensioned, were it had been badly machined the outer gear on the intake cam doesnt go on right as theres a gap between the 2 gears, i had to machine that part of the cam down to, I had to machine the oil gallerys aswell becuase they were badly done, along with also having to machine the part of the exhaust cam were the pulley for the timing belt goes around as that doesnt bolt straight on either, & I can see why some people maybe having problems with there timing belts if they have not had the cams re-machined to fit the pulley & gears properly.
Its not that its a major problem with the cam sam like you said the main problem is the spring pressure. But its just that if you pay 399usd for cams you at least expect them to be machined well so you dont have to worry about those kind of problems.

the only way i can make improvement is by way of feedback...
which i take in a good way so i can know what to ask for in the future.

sam

 

[Shorty]

do you know at what spring pressure mate?

 

[speedvision]

you keep saying about the correct pressure, so what is the correct pressure to go with the cams and spring combo???

cheers

i have been asking for this info all thru the thread...and i said i do not know and most tuners and builders have this info..those who have installed it them selves i realise didnt even bother with the pressure being too hard or soft and will defo cause a problem if its too hard.

sam

 

[Shorty]

and also no offence sam but im inclined to agree with dan that after spending out 399 usd you wouldnt expect to need to re-machine them i was into mini's years ago and when using uprated cams (kent cams the where then reprofiled and sold on buy a race specialist) they wher a direct fit, no grinding or reprofiling etc

im not attacking the products you sell as im chuffed to bits with my td04 kit, just concerned about purchasing cams

 

[danturbo4311]

the only way i can make improvement is by way of feedback...
which i take in a good way so i can know what to ask for in the future.

sam

I understand sam & I was gonna give all feedback when i had these running to see what they were like but definetly something needs to be done about the pic glanzagee posted as his right & if someone was to fit the cam without re-maching & drive the car the circlip would fly off & the outer gear would to & you can imagine the kind of damage it would cause to the head

 

[BallıGee]

i dont know the spring rate but most of my shims that i used where in the highs as in 3.10 and around that figure clearance was in 0.07 and ex 0.12 all over

 

[nutta]

i have been asking for this info all thru the thread...and i said i do not know and most tuners and builders have this info..those who have installed it them selves i realise didnt even bother with the pressure being too hard or soft

sam

Ay?? You built the cams and springs mate, you should know the pressure there supposed to be run at??

What warranty do you offer on the cams/springs??

cheers

 

[speedvision]

I understand sam & I was gonna give all feedback when i had these running to see what they were like but definetly something needs to be done about the pic glanzagee posted as his right & if someone was to fit the cam without re-maching & drive the car the circlip would fly off & the outer gear would to & you can imagine the kind of damage it would cause to the head

yeah this is the reason i have asked everyone to have the gears professionally installed so the machine shop will do it properly..

unfortunatley getting cams at 399 isnt made one at a time but made in sets of 10's and 20's ....and machining on them may not be perfect which i can have no way of knowing unless being told by you guys..
but i would also think that if your installing ur gears you would have to know what ur doing like ur self and also kno whats to be done...its always good to have trained and professional personels working on ur car so it can be done correct...

the newbie or someone with not much experience will find it very difficult and may even cause more harm than good..if u can understand where i am comign from...

sam

 

[speedvision]

Ay?? You built the cams and springs mate, you should know the pressure there supposed to be run at??

What warranty do you offer on the cams/springs??

cheers

i didnt build them mate and i dont kno the pressure..if i knew i wouldnt be asking this all the time...arent u reading and seeing what i am asking for..its kind of redundant but didnt get it as yet so i guess no one knows.. ..i offer no warranty on peformance parts....i dont kno of a company that offers warranty on performance parts....once it leaves our hand and gets into another it can be messed up many ways which we can never tell how it happened for instance the incorrect base pressure on harder springs.


sam

 

[Shorty]

totaly understand where your coming from but you are being told they need aditional milling mate, and darren fitted barretta's and he is more than compitant. they just apear to need a bit more atention from your engineer so the fit is more acurate by the sound of it dude.

 

[speedvision]

totaly understand where your coming from but you are being told they need aditional milling mate, and darren fitted barretta's and he is more than compitant. they just apear to need a bit more atention from your engineer so the fit is more acurate by the sound of it dude.

i totally agree with you and feedback which i welcome..

if u say someone is competant then they should have done it correctly so the belt wouldnt worn right?

sam

 

[J25GTi]

yeah this is the reason i have asked everyone to have the gears professionally installed so the machine shop will do it properly..

unfortunatley getting cams at 399 isnt made one at a time but made in sets of 10's and 20's ....and machining on them may not be perfect which i can have no way of knowing unless being told by you guys..
but i would also think that if your installing ur gears you would have to know what ur doing like ur self and also kno whats to be done...its always good to have trained and professional personels working on ur car so it can be done correct...

the newbie or someone with not much experience will find it very difficult and may even cause more harm than good..if u can understand where i am comign from...

sam

Sam, i understand what you are saying, but wether it is machined in sets of 1, or 10, or even 100 it shouldnt matter. The machine shop should be able to make a set the right size, once it is set up for the cam, i dont see how it can vary!

Not slating your products, as everything i have seen has been good! But maybe you need someone else to machine them, as 99% of people will agree that you buy a "kit" to fit directly, not to have to spend extra money to even just make it fit, let alone on modifying it to that extent.

Do you see where they are coming from?

 

[Shorty]

that i cant comment on mate, im just saying darren is compitant at fitting the cams im not saying the cams caused barretas issues, but as you have said the feed back is welcomed and it would apear a little more milling is needed, as i have said i am happy with purchases iv made from you but would like to see a revised cam with the extra milling completed before i would purchase, and im sure many others would be put a ease with a revised verison as after all without the use of a product on wide aplication changes cant be made but now this has come to light and been brought to your attention improvements can be made

 

[speedvision]

Sam, i understand what you are saying, but wether it is machined in sets of 1, or 10, or even 100 it shouldnt matter. The machine shop should be able to make a set the right size, once it is set up for the cam, i dont see how it can vary!

Not slating your products, as everything i have seen has been good! But maybe you need someone else to machine them, as 99% of people will agree that you buy a "kit" to fit directly, not to have to spend extra money to even just make it fit, let alone on modifying it to that extent.

Do you see where they are coming from?

yeah i totally agree with u and as i said only feedback can make me do changes if i know whats wrong....i am not sure why some are machined correctly and some are not...but will get to it now that i know....see the ones i get feedback from either dont mention it to me or say its noting to worry about so how would i kno even where to start...but all good and welcomed

sam

 

[nutta]

i didnt build them mate and i dont kno the pressure..if i knew i wouldnt be asking this all the time...arent u reading and seeing what i am asking for..its kind of redundant but didnt get it as yet so i guess no one knows.. ..i offer no warranty on peformance parts....i dont kno of a company that offers warranty on performance parts....once it leaves our hand and gets into another it can be messed up many ways which we can never tell how it happened for instance the incorrect base pressure on harder springs.


sam

As i said im not here to argue, just needed to get the issue sorted, obviously it wont be. however i hope it does.

Piper cams/black Diamond/EBC/ K&N etc.. they offer warranty.

Im not here to spam etc, im here because i wanted a set, i know more than enough about standard and performance products to know that filing a product is not good quality.

You should also find out about the correct pressure so these guys who have bought your cams can get it done correctly without further damage.

cheers