The Spulling and prity gud English tread

[sacodetoro]

When you buy a magazine/book/newspaper most of the words are spelt correctly and the majority of grammar is correct because that is what people prefer to read.

plus lingz has a point, the majority of maltese spell correctly and get their grammar near enough right, I don't see why we shouldn't do the same.

 

[Shorty]

^^^
well said mate, english is a tricky language to understand at the best of times

 

[Mr. One Two]

good point lingl9z. but im sure if they could understand what the member was writting they would help, would you not agree? and if a person could not understand then they should either ask if there bothered, or jus keep out of it if they aren't bothered, im not one for "text writting" but i do write the odd aftr instead of after ect, its just more for of habbit i for people. no real big deal. there's no insult/offence involved. i just feel it would be harsh on any member of TGTT to lose out on information & help due to grammer!

 

[GTnomez]

I never get the way faisal writes his replies.

Always broken sentences...

with spaces in between them also

lol

and then his name....lol

even if its just a lol, he signs his name :haha:

 

[sacodetoro]

good point lingl9z. but im sure if they could understand what the member was writting they would help, would you not agree? and if a person could not understand then they should either ask if there bothered, or jus keep out of it if they aren't bothered, im not one for "text writting" but i do write the odd aftr instead of after ect, its just more for of habbit i for people. no real big deal. there's no insult/offence involved. i just feel it would be harsh on any member of TGTT to lose out on information & help due to grammer!

I don't really think that happens mate, I've never seen a question go unanswered on this forum. Thats one of the reason its beter than all the others

 

[Captain Starlet]

lol yer and people who call them SCARLETS!

Although mine has no relevance to my car simply the television character lol

 

[Mr. One Two]

sorry sacodetoro, i agree When you buy a magazine/book/newspaper of course i would want it in readable grammer, as would everyone, and your not going to text your mother or father in "TEXT TALK" as the text talk is of a new generation so they would not have a clue...... but we are not on hear writting a magazine, book, or even a newspapers but merly for enjoyment & informational purposes.

my point is not necessarily based on the grammer issue but more that members would discriminate or deprive others of valuable information based on how they wrote a couple of sentences..

 

[Derek]

I hate txt speak it annoys me so much, keep it to your phone texts not on a forum never mind the lads and girls that english isn't a first language to them i can't understand half of it when someone posts it up. There was a thread a while back and some guy had a problem with his car he wrote it in text speak and no-one could help him because it made no sense what so ever. Looked at it for 15 minutes solid and still could make nor tails of it.

 

[lingl9z]

at the end of the day there not helping them self's talking in text speak etc, Imagine getting a job with a txt written cv? I've seen them years back at connections, that was when I realised I'd have to fix up before I caught the bug.

 

[Mr. One Two]

I don't really think that happens mate, I've never seen a question go unanswered on this forum. Thats one of the reason its beter than all the others

again i totally agree with you sacodetoro, and i dont think any question will ever go unanswered on the TGTT as everyone will not be that bothered by spelling, but i was just shocked when i read that members would feel that others should not reply to threads due to grammer.! or that someone should be conscientious of spelling. i look forward to getting on and having a chat to some fellow STARBO owners about this & that after a hard days work. and the last thing i ever would of thought would hinder my chances of help and information would be my grammer, its good that not everyone these days is as narrow minded.!

 

[durmz]

everyone seems to be in agreement with GV1.3 first post so im not really looking for anyone to agree with me so im just going to add my opion and leave it at that.

is this really that big of a deal? if someone uses a couple of abbreviations to shorten words or a sentence what difference dose it make as long as it is understood. we are on hear to help one another and enjoy the site. i personally think this is an absolutly ridiculos seen as after all it is a "car forum" not a "grammer forum" & to go as far as someone saying...

.."is it really that difficult to write full words? If you cannot be bothered typing the full word why do you expect anyone will be bothered typing a response!"

seriously...? so you really feel just because a fellow member has not wrote a word in full or a sentence using abbreviations that they should not recive advice/ help! that someone should not be bothered writting a response.

yes it is a car site, and the way we get our ideas, support, everything, is communication through words, if u cant communicate, youre in the wrong place :homer: if someone started talking jiberish to you about an engine, is that ok because its about cars?

 

[Mr. One Two]

yes it is a car site, and the way we get our ideas, support, everything, is communication through words, if u cant communicate, youre in the wrong place :homer: if someone started talking jiberish to you about an engine, is that ok because its about cars?

talking in person to one another about an engine is irrelevant, as i dont feel it is posible to actually speak in that english and after all if it was read aloud it would be understood. and just for the record drumz there is uncountable ways of comunication, pictures, hands, sight, sound, so i feel that because your point is directed at me, i belive it to be totally away from my original point, which was not about the grammer or spelling side but the descrimination side.!

 

[www.glanza.co.uk]

i was just shocked when i read that members would feel that others should not reply to threads due to grammer.

This thread isn't about that, and I doubt you'll actually find a member on here who won't reply to a thread. What we're saying, is to take time, put your posts in legible, clear English, and use a spell checker where you can! As members have already pointed out, if people from foreign countries, where English is maybe their second or third language can do it, there's no reason why a bit of effort can't be put in to make everyone's life easier.

 

[Mr. One Two]

This thread isn't about that, and I doubt you'll actually find a member on here who won't reply to a thread. What we're saying, is to take time, put your posts in legible, clear English, and use a spell checker where you can! As members have already pointed out, if people from foreign countries, where English is maybe their second or third language can do it, there's no reason why a bit of effort can't be put in to make everyone's life easier.

explain this then?

If you cannot be bothered typing the full word why do you expect anyone will be bothered typing a response!

what im reading from this is that if say I for "argumnts sake" cannot be bothered typing "THE FULL WORD" then why should anyone bother to respond? were do you differ between a spelling mistake, some who has diificulty ie typing/ spell, or that there just not that fust, and then abbreviation's come into play, numerious times i have seen members ask a question and they get a reply with imo, ftw, tbh, or fpr,fcd ect, and the members reply is what dose this mean.

so if i answered a question like this:

tbh m8 u wil need a fpr & a fcd, and to delimit get and hks sld, bt imo get a blitz emu bst way 2go!

that sentence has many everyday TGTT abbreviation's used in it aswell as many TEXT TALK words so were to you draw the line, of course comonsence will be used but if your not familliar with this site or the engine side of things IMO i would find them harder to under than the other words (if you can call them that) in the sentence.

 

[Phil]

talking in person to one another about an engine is irrelevant, as i dont feel it is posible to actually speak in that english and after all if it was read aloud it would be understood. and just for the record drumz there is uncountable ways of comunication, pictures, hands, sight, sound, so i feel that because your point is directed at me, i belive it to be totally away from my original point, which was not about the grammer or spelling side but the descrimination side.!

as mark has just said a bit more effort with grammar and spelling would help.

maybe more posting would help? the more you use the forum the better you will understand what's acceptable and what gets the quickest, clearest responses.

for example on this car forum toyotagtturbo.com, if you were to start any given technical thread in the correct section etc, but failed miserably spelling wise as per you posts in this thread, you would receive a few replies saying "cut out the text speak" or quoting one of your horrendous attempts at english and simply writing "lol"

you see this wont stop replies but it wont help your quest for information.

word to the wise.. you want help, first thing to try and do is help yourself. ask questions in a clear, concise and as far as possible grammatically correct manner will DEFINITELY help your cause and i unlike you, fail to see how that's a bad thing.

Phil

 

[Phil]

explain this then?


so if i answered a question like this:

______________________________________________________________

tbh m8 u wil need a fpr & a fcd, and to delimit get and hks sld, bt imo get a blitz emu bst way 2go!

that sentence has many everyday TGTT abbreviation's used in it aswell as many TEXT TALK words so were to you draw the line, of course comonsence will be used but if your not familliar with this site or the engine side of things IMO i would find them harder to under than the other words (if you can call them that) in the sentence.

line has been drawn,
everything after that point was painful to read and slow to digest.

Phil

 

[sacodetoro]

lol don't argue with the line!

my point about the newspapers/books etc was just that people prefer to read text that's written properly and this forum is just lots of people reading of a screen

 

[gv1.3]

its good that not everyone these days is as narrow minded.!

I am anything but narrow minded thank you very much. If you require technical assistance and cannot be bothered to take the time to phrase your question in a way that is easily read then if I choose to put the same amount of time in to answering it as you did asking it (no time) that is my business.

You may think it is acceptable to use txt spk or leave letters out of words because you are too lazy after a hard days work to press an extra button on a keyboard, personally I dont care, but I have the option not to respond and I choose to exercise it.

If we followed your logic we would write the articles in the tutorials section in half legible gibberish that would require an enigma machine to decipher thus making the information contained within borderline useless.

In this life you get out what you put in. Put in half written rubbish and dont expect to get back detailed overly helpful responses. This is evident when you read some of the more interesting technical threads on the site. They usually spawn from a long detailed initial post which someone has taken some time and effort to write. This then tends to draw responses with effort invested in them.

All of the above said I wont stoop to calling you narrow minded for thinking there is nothing wrong with txt spk, use it if you wish I will just skip past your posts but I am sure you will not lose any sleep over that.

 

[Mr. One Two]

line has been drawn,
everything after that point was painful to read and slow to digest.

Phil

elaberate?

 

[Mike_ep91]

elaberate?

its elaborate!!